Anonym, 04 May 2020What shady practices? They have the best compliance and support to the community. The only thi... moreEver heard of the anti trust with qualcomm
Keep your admiration in check
Every since H2 of last year to present qualcomm has the worst performing mid range socs
So don't bother with claiming "all round better"
Anonymous, 04 May 2020The problem is with exynos. Benchmark isn't everything. Exynos 990 had way better benchmarks t... moreKnowing what amd has done in the past 3 years i'd say you should take the results of the past with a bowl of salt. Granted amd still has nothing that can beat nvidia, but on a price gauge it's a no brainer - AMD.
IpsDisplay, 04 May 2020Pretty ironic of you
Your logic is:
Id rather pick Qualcomms shady practices over mediat... moreWhat shady practices? They have the best compliance and support to the community. The only thing they are guilty of is having the best all-around SoCs in the Android world. Maybe if Merdiatek and the likes weren't so sh*ty (ignoring licences is pretty much the definition of sh*ty), we wouldn't be in this situation where only one SoC manufacturer is worthy of our money -- therefore free to set its pricing without any serious competition.
The answer to the lack of any fair competitor in this space cannot be rewarding companies like Merdiatek. Can't drink your way out of alcoholism.
Anonymous, 04 May 2020Than why europeans are buying Samsung phones with 2 major uptades and one year for the note ( ... moreBecause you get at least good after-sale support. There are repair shops in every bigger city in Europe. Most of the Chinese phones that come to Europe, are either grey imports (no warranty at all), or from online stores. And when something brakes you have to wait long until your device is fixed. Last but not least, Chinese brands try to copy iPhone's prices... lol. But without the after-sale support, 2yrs warranty, very long software support, etc.
Anonymous, 04 May 2020"The phone and hardware components is what you pay when you buy."
And the Firmware & Soft... moreThey don't develop de OS, that is what Google does and the one that earn a lot with all the associated services, etc. Also today, update the system with the new modularity is very easy, and now even drivers with even GPU updates. So that doesn't justify ask a lot bigger price. They are only developing an UI, the drivers often are included with the chips you buy for manufacture your phones.
Develop UIs is not necessary and only a matter of manufacturers wanting to differenciate themselves and making things more complex to update and often slower, profiting more bugs, the need of update the UI each time Google do a big change in APIs, libraries, etc. No one is going to include a clause relative to software in their warraties. So talk about software updates is void. It will be supported the time the manufacturer consider profitable for them, that is all.
Apple as they control the OS development has a lot easier ways to maintain the compatibility through or along their generations of phones. In Android, the variety of hardware together with the changes Google usually do and their requirements, doesn't favor of benefit the consecutive updates before require a big overhaul and change in your software. So you only do that while it's profitable and release new one stopping back compatibility when needed.
2 years ago i went with the xiaomi cause it was bang for a buck. Now all new of there devices are as big as every other brand and there prices are same too. Pretty much nothing special. Europe have too much little countries that have low income people. It's not big market for the 500+ Euro price phones and especially when we have all types of old established brands already in here that people trust ike LG, Samsung, Sony and even Huawei. And Xiaomi have not yet established this trust in Europe to have so high price phones. I dont even ook over 200 euro phones or the most top end for my budget is 250 euro. I dont have the need to buy more expensive phone for my use and peope dont buy flagship phones for there kids too, if they dont buy them for there own even. It just dont make sense that people would spend more just cause it's Europe.
Anonym, 04 May 2020Let's hope it's a cross of the the K30 Pro memory options, with the K30 Pro Zoom cameras. IMH... moreAmen to that. I am desperate for getting a telephoto cam on my next phone and not to compromise for a macro garbage.
Anonymous, 04 May 2020If Poco would give 4-5 years of major Android updrades, than maybe. Otherwise it's just a joke... moreThan why europeans are buying Samsung phones with 2 major uptades and one year for the note ( yes it does receive 2 updates but it is released on an old Android version)?
PlayerDead, 04 May 2020Apparently the AMD GPU in the upcoming Exynos SoCs is extremely powerful compared to the Adrea... moreThe problem is with exynos. Benchmark isn't everything. Exynos 990 had way better benchmarks than mediateck g90t but ingames it was worse.
Anonymous, 04 May 2020Software updates are only mouth promises. The phone and hardware components is what you pay wh... more"The phone and hardware components is what you pay when you buy."
And the Firmware & Software will be created magically by an AI system or what? A phone without software and drivers/firmware is a brick, literally.
Supporting a device means, you have to dedicate a group of highly skilled software developers for many years on a specific device (or group of devices). This group has to write, test, debug, test, create alphas, closed/open betas, release candidates over many years. This and all the other "hidden costs" goes into the final price of the device. Not just the hardware by itself. This is one of the reason why iPhones, were more expensive (5-8 years support!) in comparison to Android phones. But today Android manufactures have risen the prices unjustified high, paying the same you would pay for an iPhone. And they still give a maximum of 2 major Android upgrades and occasionally tiny security updates.
So, if Poco would actually give a very long software support (4-5 years or more), like Apple for example, it would be actually a almost reasonable price for the Hardware it provides. Who doesn't want to keep the device that you payed a good amount of money for some more years and still get full support? Now Poco/Xiaomi (and other phone manuf.) have lost the ball...
Anonymous, 04 May 2020No one is going to spend 600 or 650 euros in a Pocophone... XD So funny that they are even wa... moreWell put sir. I used to be a big fan of chinese phones, hell i'm writing this on Poco F1, but i've decided thats my last chinese product. They messed up big time with these prices. Especially in Europe. Now that the Iphone SE is out, and soon the Pixel 4a is comingor i dont see a reason to buy these phones. Even Samsungs S10e is an attractive option . I want a smaller phone and now at least we have a few nice options.
Why show a teaser when everyone knows its literally k30 pro. This doesnt make sense
Anonymous, 04 May 2020If Poco would give 4-5 years of major Android updrades, than maybe. Otherwise it's just a joke... moreSoftware updates are only mouth promises. The phone and hardware components is what you pay when you buy. There is no contract for the software support and we have seen a lot of those promises broken too many times, delays, cancellations, etc.
I don't pay a big overprice in exchange of words with zero legal value. Give me a cheaper or better hardware and we will see. Also don't try to sell me a phone twice expensive than in other countries, because i'm not blind and the only thing i'm going to do is to discard you as a trusted brand and refuse to buy your products.
Phocophone --->> The new OnePlus!!! (Rebranded Oppos) Never Settle!!! In prices...
Anonym, 04 May 2020Let's be honest here, Merdiatek has such a "checkered history" that I'd rather overpay for a m... morePretty ironic of you
Your logic is:
Id rather pick Qualcomms shady practices over mediatek's
Lol you don't seem to understand the amount of violation potential a monopoly is capable of
If Poco would give 4-5 years of major Android updrades, than maybe. Otherwise it's just a joke and a really bad one. Europeans aren't idiots.
600 euro is not pocofone anymore, it's just expensive😔😔
IpsDisplay, 04 May 2020Maybe if we had COMPETITION Qualcomm wouldn't be charging so much for the 865 Lol even the ... moreLet's be honest here, Merdiatek has such a "checkered history" that I'd rather overpay for a monopolistic component that has good track record, than support the sort of company that blatantly violated GNU/GPL licensing such as Merdiatek.
IpsDisplay, 04 May 2020Maybe if we had COMPETITION Qualcomm wouldn't be charging so much for the 865
Lol even the ... moreApparently the AMD GPU in the upcoming Exynos SoCs is extremely powerful compared to the Adreano GPU on the Qualcomm SoCs. Maybe Exynos will give good competition to Qualcomm in the future.
"A poster on South Korean tech forum Clien states that Samsung and AMD's in-house Raedon-based GPU 'crushed' Qualcomm's Adreno 650 in a GFXBench best. It scored 181.8 fps on the Manhattan 3.1 test 138.25 fps on Aztec Normal and 58 fps on Aztec High. The numbers are significantly higher than the Adreno 650's 123, 53.5, and 20 fps, respectively, on the same tests. If these numbers are accurate, then Samsung's upcoming line of Exynos chips can potentially outperform Qualcomm's subsequent flagships."
Let's hope it's a cross of the the K30 Pro memory options, with the K30 Pro Zoom cameras.
IMHO that's the only way it can have a fighting chance in Europe.