Anonymous, 06 May 2020You said "nobody would complain about the price". But you and your comrades here are complaini... moreI do not complain about this phone being 370 euros. Price is fine to me.
Better than having SD720, but other cuts to keep price.
Haters complain because is Sony.
If this phone was Samsung , they would accept price of 500 euros.
Anonymous, 06 May 2020Haters would pay, not me. Samsung phones are not worth buying. Also, screen hole disgust m... moreYou said "nobody would complain about the price". But you and your comrades here are complaining. How is that "nobody"? Unless you consider yourself a nobody.
Anonymous, 06 May 2020Both would be then overpriced, like this phone with old SoC and mediocre telephoto camera. Bu... moreI think "better with cheaper" is relative. All of the phones you specified are Chinese brand. I'm not saying they're bad, but they're catering to the frugal public where "specs on paper" are the most important. Up to a point they're willing to sacrifice other aspect of the phone for the sake of making it look good on paper and reviews, etc to gain popularity while keeping the cost very low.
If you're into those kind of phones, that's all fine.. But what I find with Chinese phones are simply, they appear to be good. But they only last for less than a year before you have to replace them with a new model. And they don't need to think about quality. As long as they're good on paper, people will buy them. And with the low price, people will keep buying them. and the only way for people to buy them is to make the phone have a short lifespan.
I've used Sony phones since 2012, and I change my phone once every 3 years.. Even so, I don't really need to since I still have my 6 years old Xperia Z2 that still runs without issue. Battery life is still good, everything still works. I only change my phone when they stop giving security updates.
This is what sets premium brands over Chinese brands. iPhone, Samsung, Sony, all are more expensive. But we get build quality that lasts for years and years. If they keep giving updates for more than 6 years on my Z2, I would've still use it today instead of upgrading to XZ1 3 years ago.
Anonymous, 06 May 2020You don't count yourself? And your comrades here?Haters would pay, not me.
Samsung phones are not worth buying.
Also, screen hole disgust me. Too annoying.
Anonymous, 06 May 2020Both would be then overpriced, like this phone with old SoC and mediocre telephoto camera. Bu... moreThe telephoto is 8MP 1/4" . Same of selfie .
OP8 Pro has a 8MP 1/4" 80mm camera.
Mi10 Pro has 8MP 1/5" periscope.
Be glad because almost all phones between $300-700 announced in 2020 have Macro or depth instead. It is a simple camera, but at least has one for this Focal Length.
YogiBear83, 06 May 2020SE have Amazing True Mystic Magic Retina LCD. ;) Dam this 10 II low light photo looks soo goo... moreHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA definitely there's no way to argue with someone already brainwashed... a "Great Screen" a tiny and low res panel of 720p xD. Call it as you want.It is still trash.
Anonymous, 06 May 2020If this phone had Samsung logo nobody would complain about price. Would even pay 500 for it. You don't count yourself? And your comrades here?
Anonymous, 06 May 2020If this phone had Samsung logo nobody would complain about price.
Would even pay 500 for it.
Both would be then overpriced, like this phone with old SoC and mediocre telephoto camera. But fans always find excuses. People with more common sense buy better phones at the same price despite the brand.
We are in 2020, where is the 5G support? Honor 30 and Mi Note 10 are better phones for the price. But Mi Note 11 will be on the next level. Even Lenovo could release a better alternative at reasonable price.
So funny watch fans buying a selfie post-processed image. Sadly for you, only the phone will be inside the box...
Also I agree that the blatant sex-selling is a bit cheap, but it changes nothing on the fact that it's a great phone.
Absolutely insane deal from Sony to be honest. I quite expected the cameras to be garbage for the price tag, but on first sight the photos are pretty decent, and the night mode looks rather impressive in this price segment.
I'll wait to see the video test, but it's rounding up to be the best price/performance ratio phone Sony has relased in YEARS.
Suz, 06 May 2020You're saying SE shitty 4.7inch 720p LCD display is better than this phone 6.0inch 1080p 21:9 ... moreSE have Amazing True Mystic Magic Retina LCD. ;)
Dam this 10 II low light photo looks soo good:
Dan, 06 May 2020the single camera of the SE is good tho, the cpu is powerful, not like crappy 665. and the s... moreYou're saying SE shitty 4.7inch 720p LCD display is better than this phone 6.0inch 1080p 21:9 cinema wide OLED?
Fearghast, 06 May 2020Since you can get GCam on pretty much every phone, I myself am not impressed at all.Yes I know, no impressed, no impressed, no impressed...
Xperia got Edit function and manual mode and I can make that photo in my XZ3. But you forgot, everybody like Auto and DXomark like auto.
Now people like you will say: I can do that in manual mode and software trick... Sony meh.
Anonymous, 06 May 2020The Exynos used by A series are s*****. Still Samsung charges a lot for them. Plastic body ... moreNever used A series from Samsung as they were always overpriced compared to better phones from Chinese manufacturers in the same price segment.
I'm a Sony fanboy. :-)
My last Sony phones were their compacts with flagship SoC. I also had a Z3 for a few weeks.
Other makers came along and did better jobs & at lower prices.
Sony & HTC will go the same way in the smartphone business.
london2tim, 06 May 2020i can confirm - the selfie camera is LOOKING GOOD!!!!!! I can't get in enough of that selfie camera !!! ^^
Anonymous, 06 May 2020Damn that selfie camera looking GOOD! Let's put a score of 200 points for the selfie camera
It's the overall device that matters the most.
This phone is a lower tier version of the Xperia 1 Mk II, with mid range level (still better than most) camera setup and most optimal chipset.
Even if the SD665 isn't the most powerful mid range SoC, it at least wouldn't be overheating far too quickly like some flagship chipsets found on $1400 flagships do.
Some do offer SD865 at this price, but then cuts the corner by having a stupid screen cutout with uneven screen brightness around the camera cutout. Then the screen will burn in after 6 months of use, while the battery would drop from 6000mAh to 2500mAh in 3 months real quick because of insanely high charging speeds. 108MP camera that we've all known to have focusing issues and weak low light capabilities.
So yeah, you may trade the phone's overall quality just for the sake of that slightly better choice of chipset. Guaranteed, this phone would certainly last for years because of how little to no compromise Sony made to this product.