Crasher, 22 Aug 2020Not really... Gaming phone are really needed. Just because you can play in a 2gb old phone doe... morePUBG and others are not games to me, because I see no point of playing lesser versions on touchscreen.
I like mobile games designed for touchscreen, not subpart ports on PC games.
Fearghast, 07 May 2020Gaming phones are utter joke - you can't have gaming device without good games.
There are som... moreNot really... Gaming phone are really needed. Just because you can play in a 2gb old phone doesn't mean u dont need a gaming phone... Your comment just tell me you are not really into phone games and you are not really good at it.. the frame drops on low end device is crazy you will already die when ur frame got stabilize. Hence a device with powerful set up is needed.
Realme x3 superzoom 8g and 128 gb variant with its build on paper does not deliver what is expected. When using it.. even after update. Realme x2 pro still lead and is more stable at 60 fps.. Tested on Pubg mobile. Still realme x3 did really good. And the price is still loved.
KondriX, 15 May 2020It looks something like Mi Mix Alpha but with borders :D
Interesting concept but nowadays man... moreYes, we can see it that way.
And well, I hate folding phones, they are expensive and overly complicated for no practical reasons, they are almost useless...
The Alpha is a special beast...
AnonD-909757, 13 May 2020Both underdisplay speaker as a subwoofer and a display on each side is really easy, it doesn't... moreIt looks something like Mi Mix Alpha but with borders :D
Interesting concept but nowadays manufacturers are oriented to folding displays. Even Alpha is a limited edition..
KondriX, 13 May 2020I guess the technology is not up to the task, or maybe nobody thought abouy that, not many I t... moreBoth underdisplay speaker as a subwoofer and a display on each side is really easy, it doesn't look as good as something like the Mi Mix Alpha, but not only it is self protected against falls but also it make accidental touch hard, also I am thinking about said protruding border to be soft and serve as a "RGB strip" for notifications and ambiant light.
Outside of the bass (that need a big surface to be really deep and loud enough), smartphone speakers are still too small for making really good sound, I remember when changing the display of my GF's old Xperia XA how surprised I was at how small the speaker is.
AnonD-909757, 13 May 2020What about using the display as a subwoofer and having two speakers (top and bottom) using lar... moreI guess the technology is not up to the task, or maybe nobody thought abouy that, not many I think gonna like that :D
Anyway, a long time a go, LG had a featurephone with 2.1 audio, I had that phone for a little while and indeed the sound was clear and loud. Look up on the net for LG GM200.
KondriX, 13 May 2020Yep, Xiaomi and LG used their displays as speakers and those on LG if I remember well, was pre... moreWhat about using the display as a subwoofer and having two speakers (top and bottom) using large membranes on the top and bottom border to have a big 2.1 setup ? :D
I didn't knew this phone, I just knew the Huawei P30 Pro did the display speaker and few other followed, I don't know much about earlier phones.
I don't want curved display neither, imagine a phone with border that protrude like that :
But on the sides, there are two thin and long tactile displays, they are also further in than the border, they are kind of buried, making them hard to hit by accident.
Though a soft non display part on the top hide physical power and volume buttons as backup.
AnonD-909757, 12 May 2020Exactly, we need more diversity, Smartphones aren't even that good at photography anyway, and ... moreYep, Xiaomi and LG used their displays as speakers and those on LG if I remember well, was pretty good, but a good stereo speaker is better I guess, remember the ones from the HTC One M Series?
I will take a flat display anyday over a curved screen but if you want a side display, maybe take a look at the Huawei Mate 30 Pro? That one doesn't have volume buttons, you can change that with the side display, not really sure how it works..
KondriX, 12 May 2020Yep, still waiting for all these novelties, 2020 should have been an interesting year, but sad... moreExactly, we need more diversity, Smartphones aren't even that good at photography anyway, and if I found a smartphone that have the features that I want and "only" have a SD765G, I'll gladly buy it !
My ideal phone would have flat main display, thin border that protrude a little (to protect the phone), and one display on each side that replace power and volume buttons (hard to accidentally touch because of the borders) and allow many macro, icons, shortcuts and other features, including icons and notifications, said borders should also be able to serve as notification light, with multiple rhythms, colors and patterns of each notification.
For audio, wasn't the display used as a speaker a good idea ?
I mean, I don't know why they all keep putting those tiny speakers that lack bass...
AnonD-909757, 11 May 2020Well, there is thicker and thicker, when we talk about thicker phones, peoples imagine a brick... moreYep, still waiting for all these novelties, 2020 should have been an interesting year, but sadly the COVID is slowing things a little bit.
Now almost every manufacturer is focusing on cameras and power, but these are already powerful enough, it's not like everyone has become a professional photographer overnight, in the end all photos ends being uploaded to Instagram, Facebook, just tired of food and dogs photos.. There are other components that should be be improved on, like batteries, sound.. Glad to see that manufacturers starts to put bigger batteries in their phones and I really hope EU is going to impose removable batteries for phones..
Oh, and I forgot about led notification light, it was really useful, but the madness for bezel-less phones has removed that also.. I still have a Note 3 (with a custom Rom ofc) and really I miss the led, now I think only Xiaomi and Asus is putting it on their phones, maybe others but I don't know..
LG had their QuadDac for superb audio quality but seeing it is absent from their new Velvet line, I am not sure about it's future existence too, really hope they have not removed it for always..
And yes, gaming phones have started the high refresh rate, and if I am not wrong, Razer is the first one who did it.
KondriX, 11 May 2020You are right, I don't understand the obsession with thin phones, what are the benefits? I wil... moreWell, there is thicker and thicker, when we talk about thicker phones, peoples imagine a brick like the Energizer phone...
New phone get better battery capacity because the technology improve, but also because phone have become larger and taller...
The new norm/average this year is 4000mAh to 4500mAh.
The market is stagnant, but I think this is because a lot of new things are about to come really soon.
And yeah, my OnePlus 6t with its SD845 is more than enough, though for future proofing, better buy the latest one when we want to change, but I won't change my 6t for any SD 865 or 875 (coming soon™) unless it have features that I really want.
Well miniled are now on some TV and there are the first microled already in the market, it will come to the smartphone and wearable pretty soon, I guess before the end of the year ?
For the batteries, the next step that also coming soon (few years) is solid state batteries, they have tons of improvements, including capacity.
For Graphene, that's actually for display, a while ago, we thought carbon nanotube display would be the next thing, but finally Oled are better, but Graphene display are a heavy upgrade on Oled, they already even beat the microled.
Totally agree ! Though 3.5mm jack and USB-C ports should be replaced by magnetic connectors, we should have two microSD slot in their own compartment and dual sim also in their own, infrared, NFC, notification light and many other things should be mandatory on all middle range and higher !
And yeah all those useless things added, if at least you make the border being luminous to serve as ambiance, notification border and stuff like that, why not !
I didn't checked the chronology, but isn't it gaming smartphones who started the high refresh rate display and touch sampling ?
AnonD-909757, 10 May 2020I said all those as exemples of innovative gaming smartphone features, not as features that sh... moreYou are right, I don't understand the obsession with thin phones, what are the benefits? I will take a thicker phone with large battery any day over those thin phones.. I had a Moto Z2 Play, which was thin with a 3k battery, although it had pretty good battery life, but imagine if it had a bigger one? Although now I see more and more phones with big batteries are released, wich is a good sign, you can keep the phone for at least 2 years. Good for us, good for the environment. I myself have an Oppo A9 2020, with a 5k battery, and it's not hard to handle nor the weight... But in general, I feel that the phone market is stagnant, nothing really new, all phones look the same, no really new improvements on this front. Every year they keep releasing new Soc's, but right now these are already powerful enough, I am pretty sure that a person won't feel the difference between a Snap 845 and 865.. There was talks about microLed for a few years and nothing till today, graphene batteries and again no real improvements, things which were useful are being removed (3.5mm jack, microSD, infrared), and other strange ones are added (notches, punch-holes, led-stripes).. Gaming phones bring something new to the 'game', but nothing revolutionary, Really, I think somehow the whole phone market is going in wrong direction..
KondriX, 10 May 2020Active cooling is good but it takes space and again, it is needed only for games, apps in gene... moreI said all those as exemples of innovative gaming smartphone features, not as features that should be put in regular Smartphones...
Even though, as I commented in the 6000 mAh battery RealMe news, if peoples weren't obsessed by ultra thin phones and accepted 1,5Cm or half an inch thick smartphones, many more features would actually be put in our smartphone and they would cost less.
Well, the owners of Samsung with Exynos wouldn't agree about apps in general doesn't make the phone heat up, also a more efficient cooling would help with battery life and quicker charging, and many peoples play game or run heavy apps on non gaming smartphones.
Batteries capacity always increased, but I wouldn't be surprised if Flagship tried to match the Gaming ones to stay relevant...
Why having dual USB-C shouldn't allow for Jack too ?
There are multiple scenario where two USB-C can come handy, and anyway magnetic ports is the future, which take way less space and can allow for multiple ports.
There are many transparent cases that look really good, for a while that's what I had with my OnePlus 6t, a transparent case with blue sides which looked beautiful, I changed it for one with electronic board image on the back but the print quality is bad :'(
AnonD-909757, 08 May 2020One of the innovation could be active cooling, through heat exchange and a waterproof fan and ... moreActive cooling is good but it takes space and again, it is needed only for games, apps in general don't make the phone heat so much.. I like that they are putting big batteries in gaming phones, but recent flagships started to do that too.. Do we need dual USB? I'll better have a 3.5mm audio plug. Two USB is good if you want to use some accessories and chargeat the same time, otherwise I don't know. To be honest I really like how some of the gaming phones look but I keep all my phones with a case so..
Anonymous, 09 May 2020Gaming phones are pointless if there are barely any good games to play on them. They're good f... moreNot quite... There are indeed an overwhelming amount of details. From connectivity to screen touch frequency. To algorithms, and also antenna arrangement. As well as being able to directly plug into the ethernet ports for even higher performance. The screen tech is something else... The 240 hz or 270hz or even 300hz touch zero lag and how all that feeds through to the cloud system is literally immediate.
I don't dispute the abilities that flagship devices may have. But most are not able to have a unified direction of cutting edge tech specifically for gaming. They are good though. And you can play games of course... But gamers who like myself who push our phones to there almost limits. And rely on zero lag and mili second precision timing as well as screen accuracy. It makes a huge difference... Especially when the frame rate is at least 90FPS. Your reaction timing and response is even more critical as you now have an extra 30 frames per second to deal with...
MagicMonkeyBoy, 08 May 2020Truth is... Your right. I am obsessed with RM3S. The photo quality is reasonable. But amazing ... moreGaming phones are pointless if there are barely any good games to play on them. They're good for PUBG, COD Mobile and that's it. Other than that, gaming phones are pointless and most if not all mainstream flaghships can do the same things gaming phones do in a more well rounded package.
KondriX, 08 May 2020You are right and I am not against gaming phones, they bring something new, even if a lot of n... moreOne of the innovation could be active cooling, through heat exchange and a waterproof fan and duck, like the Red Magic 5G but without issue with water.
And well, as I said, some consider Candy Crush as gaming, past a time Pong and Tetris, who are less evolved than Candy Crush, were the pinnacle of gaming, Smartphone can run games way more complex than those on the Gameboy, actually Smartphone can even simulate a Gameboy running those games, and they are clearly gaming, I don't see anything the Super Nintendo could do that a Smartphone can't...Yet, it is real gaming.
The game I like the most to play nowaday are idle game (low time needed to progress), so I play Cookie Clicker, Sakura Clicker and Clicker Heroes...On my gaming PC with an I7 6700K, 32GB Ram and GTX 1080Ti, but is it gaming ?
Or me playing Factorio or Airport CEO is it gaming ?
Is it gaming when I play Plague Inc...Is it gaming when I play Kerbal Space Program ?
What about my girlfriend playing The Sims and sometime City Skyline ?
What about Life is Strange, Spore, The Stanley Parable, Universe Sandbox, Solar 2, Slime Rancher, PC Building simulator, ...
All of those are game some will really don't like considering as "gaming" I have hundreds games on my Steam library, all those are the games I play the most...
And same as DCS World or Arma 3...
I mean Battlefield 3/4 (I don't own more recent version of BF), Titanfall, Crysis 3, War Thunder, clearly you'll consider them as gaming, but where do you trace the line between them and other like Red Orchestra, Rising Storm 2, Arma, DCS World, or even the difference between Dirt 3 and Dirt Rally or Spintire, or between Project Cars and RFactor...
Smartphone have became the most important piece of tech we can have, they allow to make call and send text message, they act as virtual agenda, small computer to go on internet and can do a lot of things, CPU wise many argue that the raw power is actually really close between those ARM (RISC) and CISC CPU like mainstream PC CPU...
But they are also one of the least cumbersome tech we can have, so for all those who like games but are often not at home, they are great device to actually practical and a real deliverance, not anyone can take his laptop everywhere, and many, including me, will argue that this isn't a smart idea to play on your laptop anyway...
So at the end, what is "gaming" anyway ? We can't just put certain game in that category and consider any other as gimmick that are not part of the gaming world, some will even consider Tamagotchi as gaming...
So why gaming smartphones, and smartphone games shouldn't belong to gaming in general ?
MagicMonkeyBoy, 08 May 2020Truth is... Your right. I am obsessed with RM3S. The photo quality is reasonable. But amazing ... moreOh please, are you serious? You play some games on a phone and you consider yourself a gamer? And you keep describing these phones in way like you have met God.. If you like it, fine but stop worship a phone and take a look around..
AnonD-909757, 07 May 2020That's partially true, well that's complicated, it depend on what you count as gaming. Offici... moreYou are right and I am not against gaming phones, they bring something new, even if a lot of novelties are gimmicks.. But, in my case, to really enjoy a game I need a big screen that a phone can not offer, and good controls which again a phone can not offer. Of course some casual games can be played on the phone but you can not consider that real gaming. And it's not like there are games that can be played only on gaming phones and not on others, these just let you play a game for longer times before the phone heats.. I am not against them, but the hype is bigger than the real functions these phones offer.
Anonymous, 08 May 2020I don't even own an iPhone and I never have, not everyone who disagrees with you owns an iPhon... moreTruth is... Your right. I am obsessed with RM3S. The photo quality is reasonable. But amazing for night images... Check out Gary explains for the night mode. And I have come across very few bugs. Very few.
My phone is an excellent all round phone for my use.
Remember that gaming phones have reasonable cameras. They are not camera phones. But they are improving. They are gaming phones. And that they excel at.
However.... If you want a luxury or traditional flagship device. Your probably going to end up with a camera phone... And the cameras are going to be superb... But that phone is going to be able to play games of course.... But nothing at all like a gaming phone... Even if the screen has a higher refresh rate....
So. You either have a camera phone that can play games okay... But...
You can have a reasonable camera on a gaming phone.... And... Game in a way that wipes the floor with all flagship luxury phones. Sorry. They just cannot compete. Although clearly Android handsets are better for gaming generally than iPhones.
I am not at all paid by Nubia. But I am just being honest with you. Until you, yourself have a gaming if your a gamer... You wouldnt want any other phone.
My red magic is an excellent daily driver. Better than most infact. Why?
Well. I can do everything I need to do...
If that is one thing about gaming phones... There camera night mode is easily comparable to an iPhone 11 Pro max.
As for all this bug talk... My phone is absolutely fine. I have more bugs in individual apps from time to time than the OS on this phone.
Immerse yourself for an hour into real racing 3 or cod or pubg at 90fps... That's right I have pubg at 90fps with a 90hz screen. (Hex Editored). Stereo ATX. Bass and seperation that makes the iPhone 11 Pro sound tinny.... And come 1st place most of the time... That buttery smooth resolution with almost literally no ghosting...
That razor sharp game play that leaves your opponents thinking you must be cheating? As if your game play is impossible... The fact that your phone has zero lag anywhere.... Connection, touch, everything... A processor that is Overclocked like crazy. Settings that force GPU and cpu to the max. Your fan is keeping your phone stable as it's brute force just leaves your opponents in shock... Shock that they just don't stand a chance against you... They just didn't see you coming...
Graphics and game play set on maximum... And still just effortly cruises... As if it's just a piece of cake for your phone... And the A13 is sweating... Lagging. And just can't cope...
Yep... I am a gamer... You might be a photographer... Or social media sort of person... Well I can do all that pretty reasonably...
But gaming... That's me. And my phone.... That's why I bought it. I have 2x phones in one. And yes. I like my photos. Not the best. But pretty good for what I need... But the night images are on another level... Now they are very good.
So for the record... I am not paid by nubia. I am just enthusiastic about gaming phones. I think it's excellent that we have gaming phones. Why not?
And I represent gaming.
Don't get me wrong. I am impressed with camera phones. Premium mainstream phones. Budget phones. I am impressed with all Android phones. I do admire non gaming phones quite a bit.
But personally speaking. Nothing appeals more to me.... Than gaming phones... I love the designs. And best of all. I love a few sessions of intensive, heavy, powerful gaming... Where you are fully aware and relying on that cpu/GPU and screen and connectivity and zero lag... Making sure that you don't miss a single frame of action... When gaming at my level of capabilities... You need extreme performance because you are pushing the phone to its absolute maximum for periods of time. You are naturally pushing it to almost its full potential for everything... Zero throttling....
I hope you understand... That I love gaming very much. Of course I am going to be biased towards gaming phones....
Its time some of us might start to see if a gaming phone could be of great use as opposed to the typical sort of smartphones... It's time for more choice in the Android world... And gaming phones are another great choice we have...
I hope every reader even if they dont need a gaming phone. At least appreciate the principle that we have gaming phones.... Not just that we have gaming phones... But we have the best gaming phones on the planet...