Anonymous, 15 May 2020I'm not saying there's no difference at all between 60Hz and 120Hz in gaming. There's a differ... moreYes, that makes sense. People get a lot more than they need at a point of time. Although, yes, some do manage to push it to extreme and feel lacking, so we can't conclude this for all people.
I think most hardware we know has the power to support 60Hz easily. As for processor, I think a game like PUBG is more related to GPU... not processor.
The processor intensive games are those war games, RPG games, in which multiple NPU's exist, their AI decisions are taken together by computer. Mostly, graphics intensive games don't lag due to processor, its more due to GPU, Video RAM & RAM.
Anonymous, 16 May 2020Yawn i clearly meant the over priced 800 1000 1500 plus priced devices asking for too much mon... moreWell those higher priced, 800-1500$ phones aren't expensive coz of the higher refresh rate display, they are expensive for other things they have incorporated like the increased price of SD865 SOC.
Stop spreading the myth that higher refresh rate displays are making phones expensive when in reality they don't add much to the cost over regular displays.
AndroidMaster, 15 May 2020Redmi k30/Poco X2 with 120hz or Realme 6 with 90hz is overpriced? Yawn i clearly meant the over priced 800 1000 1500 plus priced devices asking for too much money. While also slacking in upgrades and making compromised
AndroidMaster, 15 May 2020LOL, He posts a video from 2012 to make his case! LOL is that all an 'Android Master' can comment to refute the YouTube video?
Well here's another YouTube video from the same author. I sure hope you'll be able to say more than 'But it's several months old.' It's not like humans have mutated so much as to be able to distinguish between 60Hz and higher refresh rate monitors. Again, we're talking about gaming in a big computer monitor. Scale that down to a regular 6.4"+ phone screen that is 99% of the time used for Facebook, Youtube and Reading/Browsing and you'll realize how overhyped high refresh rates in small phone screens really are.
Anonymous, 15 May 2020And the price is not enough below. They are all over priced thoughRedmi k30/Poco X2 with 120hz or Realme 6 with 90hz is overpriced?
Samath N8 808 owner, 15 May 2020So, we take a random guy in a random single player game, who doesn't even pan fast enough to n... moreI'm not saying there's no difference at all between 60Hz and 120Hz in gaming. There's a difference that mostly only seasoned gamers can notice. If it takes that experience to detect a difference, ergo, most people won't even notice it. And the test was done in a big computer monitor. Scale that down to small phone screens and you'll see that it's basically splitting hairs.
Technology moves forward, yes. And now we have higher and higher screen refresh rates and higher and higher megapixel cameras and faster and faster processors. Are they good? Certainly. But are they worth the added price? For most users, no. But soon, everything will be cheaper so they'll become standard specs even in midrange phone without added price premium. Would that be good? Certainly!
As for processor, frame skipping due to underpowered processor/GPU is a fact so if you're a gamer, that imoroved processor/GPU speed may be worth paying more for the added price than some 120Hz screen refresh rate that nobody other than seasoned gamers notice.
Anonymous, 15 May 2020For gaming, the processor speed (responsiveness) will matter more to the experience than the h... moreSo, we take a random guy in a random single player game, who doesn't even pan fast enough to notice the high framerates, make a youtube video and we conclude that the average gamer can't benefit from high Hz... ?
Look at me, I'm a GN1 in CS:GO. I can spot the difference but I too will need to pan around 180* really hard to see it. That's when you start to see the individual frames..
If it never mattered why do you think the world went 240Hz and even 360Hz now in PC?
And by the way, how did you come across the conclusion about processor?
Samath N8 808 owner, 15 May 2020What about gaming? Even I don't care about menus, but gaming can benefit from higher refresh r... moreFor gaming, the processor speed (responsiveness) will matter more to the experience than the high refresh rate screen (120Hz).
Check this video out:
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Yes SD 865 can do 120Hz. But I wouldn't care at all if manufacturers intentionally disable it.... moreWhat about gaming? Even I don't care about menus, but gaming can benefit from higher refresh rates.
Although to be honest, I wish even gaming would get stuck on 60 fps for some time, specially in online games. We're getting involved in the mad race for fps, the same found in PC realm, which means some gamers are at an advantage with their pockets, and not skill/ game sense.
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Yes. Because you personally can't see the difference means it's ok for companies to rip off cu... moreNo, you got me wrong. If manufacturers intentionally disable or don't offer 120Hz modes even with the phone's powerful and capable processor, I wouldn't care at all for as long as the phone is priced well below those overpriced 120Hz capable ones.
I wouldn't care for marginally 'smoother' screen animations in 120Hz phone screens in the same way I wouldn't care about 500ppi displays for as long as they cost much less than 60Hz displays and 350ppi displays. For me, larger capacity batteries, dedicated micro sd expansion and dual SIM (triple slot) and headphone jack additions are way more valuable, useful and truly a better experience than running after those overkill 120Hz displays or 400ppi+/500ppi+ displays. Now if you add those overkill 120Hz 500ppi features on top of those I mentioned (larger batteries, dedicated micro sd slot, headphone jack, etc.), for no added cost, then certainly, I'll be very happy but for added cost? Nope. I'm after the cake, not the icing.
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Resolution makes huge difference on big screen TV. 4k on smartphone is overkill. But the same... moreI'm not confusing the two. 120Hz screen refresh rate advantage over 60Hz is overrated in a phone. Humans really don't see significant improvement above 60Hz screen refresh rates with 60fps sources. That's not to say there really is no difference because there is, especially when the source involves fast moving action sequences at high frame rates but as I mentioned it won't be significant in small phone screens as compared to big screen TV's. Is it good to have it even when you can't see much difference? If it doesn't add to the cost, then certainly, yes.
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Yes SD 865 can do 120Hz. But I wouldn't care at all if manufacturers intentionally disable it.... moreResolution makes huge difference on big screen TV.
4k on smartphone is overkill. But the same 4k has a much enjoyable experience on large screen TV.
With touch screen 120hz on smartphone, the difference in enjoyable experience is huge.
You won't see that difference on TV/monitor since most of them run at higher refresh rate but don't have touch screen input to further enhance the experience.
Don't confuse the two.
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Yes SD 865 can do 120Hz. But I wouldn't care at all if manufacturers intentionally disable it.... moreYes. Because you personally can't see the difference means it's ok for companies to rip off customers and disable relevant features deserved in the cost of their phones that other similar and cheaper priced phones have....
Samath N8 808 owner, 14 May 2020You're right. But you're ignoring that we're already at a high level of performance. A Snapdr... moreYes SD 865 can do 120Hz. But I wouldn't care at all if manufacturers intentionally disable it. As I mentioned, it's splitting hairs compared to standard 60Hz refresh rate especially with small phone screens. It won't bring in as significant a visual improvement as a large screen TV.
Samath N8 808 owner, 14 May 2020You're right. But you're ignoring that we're already at a high level of performance. A Snapdr... moreIf you compare endurance rating for all phones which are capable of running at 120hz vs 60hz, the difference in battery life is not more than 10-15% in every case.