600 series means this chipset would 11nm in size at least and I don't think this is a good idea by Qualcomm.
Anonymous, 22 May 2020Curious if chip designers ever thought about making a Nine-core CPU : 2 high performance cores... moreComplicate to do and not very usefull
big.LITTLE consiste of two clusters with a maximum of 4 homogeneous cores...like standard 4A73+4A53.
Cache is separate, if you want to use only 2 big cores you limited to a total of 6 cores : 2+4
To communicate between the two clusters, cluster migration was needed : it takes some cycles
Mediatek's corepilot allows a third cluster. It's 2+4+4
Samsung used the technology on Exynos 7885 or 7904 : even if it seems to be 2+6, it's in fact 2A73+4A53+2A53
Singe Cortex A75/A55, it's no longer big.LITTLE but DynamIQ.
Cluster was improved...
It can be 8 heterogeneous cores in the same cluster with the same cache.
No cluster migration needed, that's the biggest thing. And that's why Mediatek's tri-cluster solution disappeared.
Even when it's 1A76@2.8 + 1A76@2.4 + 6A55@1.8 (SD768), many will say it's tri-cluster...but no, they are wrong, it's single cluster!
If you want to add a ninth core, you have to add a second cluster and lost cycles with cluster migration for limited additionnal power.
Anonymous, 21 May 2020Although D820 delivers the improved performance, but we are still not sure of the thermal effi... moreIt's 4 Cortex A76 running at 2.6ghz...
On SD855+, Qualcomm pushed their A76 up to 2.96ghz un 7nm
It should not be any heating problem in real life
IpsDisplay, 21 May 2020The 6 series is alive???????Live and kicking. Have SD660 in my Nokia 7 Plus, SD630 in Nokia 6.1 & SD625 in Vivo V5 Plus. All built on 14nm fab process. For general day to day use SD660 is a killer with stock Android. I even have 5 year old Vivo X5 Max with SD615 built on power hungry 28nm fab process.
For day to day use SD615 now feels slow in 2020, SD625 have mild stutters but still have some life left. SD630 with stock android has no stutters and games run better. However SD660 is on another level. I am not comparing these midrange Socs with SD7XX & SD8XX series
Looks like an sd665 upgrade(finally?)
Spanky, 21 May 2020Yes, more affordable 5G chipsets! But why does the article say that the Snapdragon 6XX seri... moreLowest 6 series like 625 is for entry level smartphones but most of them is mid-range chipsets
Curious if chip designers ever thought about making a Nine-core CPU : 2 high performance cores, 4 medium cores, 3 efficient cores. Just a thought.
Anonymous, 21 May 2020I think you should buy 7 series or 8 series Snapdragon. To enjoy your phone and not get angry ... moreSd4xx you greedy people. Getting angry about a little lag and causing people to suicide of stress coming from hard work to provide you with a 0.000001 better performance
Anonymous, 22 May 2020Wasn't Qualcomm able to do it or they just did not want to? Dont they earn more money by s... moreBecause Qualcomm couldn't, not because they didn't want to. According to the Qualcomm engineers, when they tried to integrate the 5G modem with SD865, the resulting chip is too large to get decent yield, and too thermally inefficient to be usable by 2020 standard. Any attempt to shrink the size led to severe negative impact on the performance. They will have similar issues with SD875. If Qualcomm continues with its two-piece solution, MediaTek with its D2000 with integrated 5G will take over.
DrakeX, 21 May 2020Qualcomm is lacking innovation and yet I'm still using a Snapdragon. Not only Mediatek but Kir... moreQualcomm 845, 855, 855+ and 865 are capable of 4K HDR recording.
Suport for 4K 60Hz screen since 810. Currently QHD@144 and 4K@60.
4K recording since 801.
Better ISP (Spectra)
Support for 10bit screen, BT2020 colour gamut
Support for USB 3.0 since SD800. And now 3.2
Suport for DDR5 ram
No brand (Google, Sony, Lg, Xiaomi, OP, Oppo, Vivo, Motorola, Lenovo, Asus, HTC , Samsung or Realme) will use Mediatek on their best phones.
Anonymous, 21 May 2020Qualcomm has been caught off guard by the arrival of Dimensity SoCs. MediaTek has done somethi... moreWasn't Qualcomm able to do it or they just did not want to?
Dont they earn more money by selling two pieces instead of one?
Dimensity 2000 is almost ready, and it will be available before SD875G. Let the fight begin!
For the open market where SoCs are available to all phone-makers, the most significant fight for 2021 will be Dimensity 2000 against SD875G. The rumor has it that the engineers at MediaTek are ready for their victory lap.
Are we going to witness a mobile version of AMD vs Intel?
Although D820 delivers the improved performance, but we are still not sure of the thermal efficiency of D820. (We just don't know how much worse D820's thermal efficiency is compared to that of D800.) Phone-makers have had their hands on D800 all seem to love the chip. If the user experience from the first wave of phones based on D800 (D820) is good enough, we can expect a large flood of 5G phones based on D800 forthcoming.
(Note: D820 is exclusively available only to Xiaomi for the next 6 months. D800 is available to many tier-1 phone-makers, but not yet available to tier-2 phone-makers such as LG, Sony, ASUS, Motorola, etc.)
Qualcomm feeling the heat by Mediatek Dimensity chipset.
Anonymous, 21 May 2020Qualcomm has been caught off guard by the arrival of Dimensity SoCs. MediaTek has done somethi... moreQualcomm is lacking innovation and yet I'm still using a Snapdragon. Not only Mediatek but Kirin and Exynos have poked into Qualcomm's 5G territory. Snapdragon modems are usually the most superior but it seems 5G isn't its strong point. The only real advantage X55 modem has over other 5G modems is mmWave which is too expensive and limited. Qualcomm is capable of integrating the modem into the SoC but choose not to due to rapidly changing tech, time to market concerns and cost. Actually, I don't see any problem with an external modem aside from die space. Apple's been doing it for ages.
Alex 94, 21 May 2020Mediatek already have budget 5g chipsets, 800 and 820. Qualcomm is behind mtk in this segment.D800 and D820 are not low enough to address the sub $200 (or sub $150) market. D820 can reach sub $250, while D800 can reach near $200. Before the end of year, we should see 5G phones priced below $150, or even close to $100.
DrakeX, 21 May 2020Snapdragon 600 series is supposedly midrange but Qualcomm has destroyed its reputation by down... moreQualcomm has been caught off guard by the arrival of Dimensity SoCs. MediaTek has done something that Qualcomm has so far not been able to do: a flagship grade SoC with an integrated 5G modem. It is still far from a sure thing that Qualcomm will be able to integrate SD875 with an 5G Modem. (According to the engineers working on both SD865 and D1000, MediaTek's 5G modem is superior to that offered by Qualcomm.)