This won't cut it. Nokia is a sinking ship. Why did go WP at the first place?
AnonD-48819, 08 Jun 2012As a student of Chartered Accountancy I know that public companies are not a one man show. Any... morewhoa accountant student, thanks for detailed info :)
but one thing I don't understand from your explanation,
if Nokia refused to use Android just because thay can't add their own innovation to Google software, then why they choose WP ?
Isn't WP is more restricted than Android ?
so I think customization is not the main reason Nokia use WP instead Android. There must be some other reason that have bigger impact on board of director.
Android needs 8 cores and 12GB of ram just to run as smooth as Windows Phone.
Q1 of 2012 was the Lumia 800 and Lumia 710 I think. Lumia 900 and Lumia 610 will show up in Q2 that will sell a lot more than the 800 and 710.
AnonD-48819, 08 Jun 2012As a student of Chartered Accountancy I know that public companies are not a one man show. Any... moreYou're trying very hard to illustrate that Nokia's situation was a difficult one, but I'm afraid the fanboys will simply ignore it. In the next Nokia article they're still going to say Elop is the sole person responsible and portray the decision between WP7 and Android as a simple one. Thanks for the info, though.
Nokia is dead they should have pushed Meego, with windows phone they are Microsoft btch, features like fm transmitter and. Bluetooth file transfer are gone. And that's a downgrade
AnonD-48819, 08 Jun 2012As a student of Chartered Accountancy I know that public companies are not a one man show. Any... moreThat's too many facts for the fanboys here. Do you have any flashy pictures or something?
That is only fair for that crappy OS, and that complete idiot, Elop, that killed symbian and destroyed Nokia.
I hope they fall behind blackberry too.
Nokia's main fail is first off sinking everything into W7 platform. They had an OS (Symbian) that has been popular in many other countries besides the US for years and they owned such a LARGE share of the market in other countries with Symbian. Now they desided that they want to enter the market in NA with a Nokia had set that has W7 and they also want to rid of Symbian as their main OS in other countries as well. Nokia has finally hit a break through with "Nokia Belle" and could honestly have a fighting chance in NA if they only would have entered our market with "Belle". Reason being is that because "Belle" is a Symbian OS up to par with the other competitors, Android and IOS. It can get the attention and get people used to it due to the fact that it is well polished now and we all know that people like pretty looking things, yes "Belle" is pretty. Anyways they could have branded it as a New operating system in NA since after all NA is so unfamiliar with Symbian, only a couple of Symbian phones have been released on T-Mobile and Att but never made a splash. They could have marketed on television explaining the quick facts and benefits of "Belle". I don't believe Nokia could survive on only a W7 platform.
AnonD-8044, 08 Jun 2012Have to agree with you on that one.As a student of Chartered Accountancy I know that public companies are not a one man show. Any decision has to be taken on the basis of the consent of majority of the board of directors.
Nokia Board of Directors consists of the following eleven members:
Any strategical decision taken on behalf of Nokia has to be the decision of the majority of these directors and not only Elop. As a CEO he simply is a spokesperson and representative of the board of directors. So blaming Elop only, in my opinion, is not a fair thing to do.
BLOOMBERG BUSINESS WEEK June 2, 2011, 12:40AM EST
Much of what Elop had to say wasn't news to his audience, but it was still distressing. In his measured telling, Apple and Google (GOOG) had changed the industry from handset-focused to software-focused. Symbian had fallen too far behind to have any hope of catching up. Worse, the company's great hope for the future—a software platform created with chipmaker Intel (INTC), called MeeGo—wasn't ready to pick up the slack. He tried to negotiate a deal with Google to run Android, but Google refused to give the world's biggest phonemaker any advantages over its smaller partners (I've discussed those things specifically in my earlier post which Nokia expected from Google), meaning Nokia's corps of 11,600 engineers would have next to no ability to add their own innovations to Google's software. "It just didn't feel right," Elop says to the crowd. "We'd be just another company distributing Android. That's not Nokia! We need to fight!"
I can feel bias in the words used by the article writer. For me if it's really 2.2 Million then it's more than a satisfactory performance by Nokia. Android barely sold a Million in their first launch and that too without any restrictions. If Nokia has sold 2.2 M units with all those stupid restrictions then it is an achievement.
And with Apollo coming I hope all the restrictions will be lifted and with PureView and Rich recording technology added plus the first real application of nano technology on their devices Nokia are going to set a very different league and standard for other competitors. Their spec sheet will boast a very different appeal rather than attracting customers by higher number of cores and pixels.
I can see Nokia heading towards the vision they spoke about 3 years ago. And I'm very happy to see them going in a different way from adding cores and pixels which every other company can do. I just hope they maintain the financial stability and sustainability till the people realize that it's not all about cores and pixels.
Nokia didn't go with Android just because of poor user experience and Google's autocratic behavior. Nokia wanted to replace the Google maps with their own which are still far better than Google's and Nokia was also willing to make alterations in the Personal Information Manager (PIM) of Android to enhance the consumer's safety and privileges. But Google refused to go with it.
Nokia sacrificed their financial interest because of consumers and people, sadly, here think that they don't have the technology or they are egoistic which is not the case. Even a Chinese company can stuff pixels and cores in a 5 inches of electronic piece.
Nokia has packed a few more surprises for us which we are going to see very soon!
Oh come on, android sucks. Use the n9 for like... Idk, 5 minutes? And you'll see what is a 1ghz processor capable of.
sunny, 08 Jun 2012now nokia had again started to make fool of people by new fool phone .... There is nothing new... moreActually Android is making you fool for last 5 years or so. Look at Android with all that power and resource hungry platform. Even with Quad core can't run smooth, still lags, still stutters, and still inconsistent. But trick they made is .that they have given you open platform with flexibility to use features like using Bluetooth for sending and receiving files, and so on. Windows.is at least not that much resource/power hungry and still sleek, fluid and.provides better user experience. Its only matter of time, when this platform will really get matured like Android (which took around 5 long years before coming to the present state) and I will rule the world.
I am curious to know what were the sales figures of Samsung Android in their first quarter. I will be surprised it clocked 2 mil.
Haters will remain haters, but lets accept the fact the consumer in mobile industry changes its prefrences every 2 - 3 years. Samsung HTC enjoyed that providing Android option against expensive IPHONE and ailing Symbian. Nokia and WP have strong position when consumer starts to be bored of Android. BB, perhaps dead by then. Microsoft with its unbeatable enterprise application experience is most likely to bring W8 desktop, tablet and phone top of charts. 2013 will be year of enterprise mobile apps. BB perhaps either died or taken over by MS for its enterprise customer base. Nokia certainly would not be dead, either surviving on parent company's funds or limited take over by MS. They would be in business for sure one way or the other.
So my money remains on Microsoft and also Nokia
What is the name of the force binding Nokia from releasing a short range of android/meego phones (inexpensive phones could be an experiment)!
Rather than feeding symbian or rather S40, they could bring android to ultra budget mobile set range which is not ventured yet by any company.Typical android starts from 7000 INR (135$)
AnonD-24171, 08 Jun 2012Seriously best hardware! best camera!
As i recall SII won best cameraphone not Nokia
http://... morecheck this...
and they do not seem to agree with your S II being the best, N8 rules even if it is oldest of all
There are two ways to look at that number. The first is by realizing that 2.2 million units is an absurdly small number for a company that has WP as its single hope to get out of the hole it has put itself into. With Symbian doomed and MeeGo abandoned, the WP sales are the only ones that actually count for Nokia in the long run and 2.2 million is barely enough to put the company on the map, let alone suit its world's leading status.