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Apple may announce its ARM-based chips for its future MacBooks during WWDC Comments

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  • Android Master
  • 8vX
  • 14 Jun 2020

Vegetaholic, 13 Jun 2020People who use Macs of course will buy it as,MacOS is full fledget operating system, which doe... moreNo it doesn't do pretty much anything windows can.
It probably does 5% of it.
Only fruit logo fanat*cs buy it.

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V2836519
  • Vegetaholic
  • dQc
  • 13 Jun 2020

Android Master, 13 Jun 2020Forget hardware, even if hardware gets better compared to ultrabook laptops, Do you really t... morePeople who use Macs of course will buy it as,MacOS is full fledget operating system, which does pretty much anything you need from notebook like Windows. It is another question what you prefer windows or MacOS, but it is irrelevant for this matter, most important is MacOS will run on beastly Arm processors and thats it is achievement of its own and headache for Intel

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A15831007
  • Android Master
  • 8vX
  • 13 Jun 2020

JDK, 13 Jun 2020Telling from the upvotes of this comment, I can totally tell who are the android fanbois here.... moreI've used iPad.
It simply can't compete with a real laptop.
When I say real laptop, I mean a Windows based Real laptop, not running on Toy OS.

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J1806403
  • JDK
  • ybx
  • 13 Jun 2020

Android Master, 11 Jun 2020IPad is just another iPhone with bigger screen. Too weak to compete with any real laptop. Telling from the upvotes of this comment, I can totally tell who are the android fanbois here.

And before you make your biased jugdements, actually use an iPad for yourself. One of the recent iPads, in fact, then come back with an unbiased opinion of it.

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A15831007
  • Android Master
  • 8vX
  • 13 Jun 2020

Vegetaholic, 13 Jun 2020Absolute nonsense. By hardware speed they can compete with any ultrabook lapop easely as ipad ... moreForget hardware, even if hardware gets better compared to ultrabook laptops,
Do you really think iPadOS and MacOS can compete with full fledged functionality of Windows?

This is why I said, it's Too weak to compete with any real laptop.

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V2836519
  • Vegetaholic
  • dQc
  • 13 Jun 2020

dude111, 09 Jun 2020Faster than Intel? yes, by a lot. But not entirely sure about AMD cause those 8-core ryzen 40... moreRyzen will give great rival to the Apple arm processors and definitely will be on par or faster for now in 15watt cathegory, funny to see Intel so far behind, Apple will ditch Intel for good eventually and Intel are now in serious trouble to be in AMD shoes back from last decade.

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V2836519
  • Vegetaholic
  • dQc
  • 13 Jun 2020

JDK, 11 Jun 2020I don't know of your experiences, but for me, using a core i5 laptop(8th gen) is only slightly... morepeople are not educated, mostly here who comments they dont know hardware they think that arm is still in its infancy and if it runs on mobile devices it can't match intel more powwr hungry processors, but it is completely opposite. Intel is stuck with no progression in architecture in mobile ground while Apple used billions on R&D to push Arm based architecture past any intel offerings and now are far more capable processors when Intel can offer in lower power consumtion ground.

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  • Vegetaholic
  • dQc
  • 13 Jun 2020

Android Master, 11 Jun 2020IPad is just another iPhone with bigger screen. Too weak to compete with any real laptop. Absolute nonsense. By hardware speed they can compete with any ultrabook lapop easely as ipad A12x chipset or whatever are beast, for example even many top of the end i7 4core 8 thread intel 45watt cpus from mid decade are on par or less capable when Apple chipset which runs only on like 5watt. The problem with ipads are their purpose. They are tablet with OS being used as simple tablet device, it is not hardware problem it is software problem and now Apple addresing that putting those beastley Arm processors with use of more powerful software full feldged Mac OS.

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A15831007
  • Android Master
  • 8vX
  • 11 Jun 2020

DrummerAJL, 11 Jun 2020If you think iPads are really beating out laptops, tell me when you can: - Connect an exte... moreIPad is just another iPhone with bigger screen.
Too weak to compete with any real laptop.

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J1806403
  • JDK
  • ybx
  • 11 Jun 2020

DrummerAJL, 11 Jun 2020If you think iPads are really beating out laptops, tell me when you can: - Connect an exte... moreI don't know of your experiences, but for me, using a core i5 laptop(8th gen) is only slightly faster than an iPad in terms of browsing. And that iPad is from 2 years ago(and it's the regular iPad, not the pro).

I'm not trying to defend iPads. I'm just pointing out statistics(like it is faster than 92% of all laptops, or it scores higher than core i5s in geekbench scores, roughly the same as core i7s).

Remember, iPads have toned down versions of pro apps, so yes, they are slower. But if they were to run the same application, they will be simmilar.

Also Remember the ARM macs have 12 cores while the iPad pros have 8.

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D135215
  • DrummerAJL
  • 4IT
  • 11 Jun 2020

JDK, 11 Jun 2020those 92% of laptops are all intel core i7 ultrabooks that the iPad pro does in fact beat. ... moreIf you think iPads are really beating out laptops, tell me when you can:

- Connect an external hard drive
- Run demanding editing apps like Final Cut Pro or Logic Pro
- Open multiple browser windows to be displayed at once
- Opening files from a real directory
- Allow some sort of easy upgrading (RAM or M.2 SSD with no adhesives)
- Run better gaming graphics with higher framerates

iPads aren't even comparable to laptops or computers, they can't be better because they aren't comparable. Keep trying to defend apple all you will want, but the iPad is just as expensive as macbooks. It is$1000 for 12.9" 128GB, +$300 for keyboard, +$130 for pencil, combined to $1430 which will go higher for storage and cellular. The Macbook Air is $1,000 and the Macbook Pro 13 is $1300. Really you are spending more for something worse.

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  • Anonymous
  • Kxr
  • 11 Jun 2020

JDK, 11 Jun 2020you think the verge is PAID by apple? Lol, a company like apple wouldn't pay any review sit... moreEveryone knows iOS is garbage so they have to pay several Youtubers for good reviews.

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J1806403
  • JDK
  • ybx
  • 11 Jun 2020

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2020Apple is so cheap quality that no one buys Mac OS. Tech reviewers around the globe laugh at ... moreyou think the verge is PAID by apple?

Lol, a company like apple wouldn't pay any review sites to sell well, they already know they will. Unlike a bunch of other android companies.

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  • JDK
  • ybx
  • 11 Jun 2020

DrummerAJL, 10 Jun 2020iPads aren't even more powerful than computers, they aren't even comparable in the same catego... morethose 92% of laptops are all intel core i7 ultrabooks that the iPad pro does in fact beat.

If you are talking about those 16 core creator laptops that weigh pretty much like desktops, then no, the iPad doesn't beat them.

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S595225
  • SizN80
  • rwq
  • 11 Jun 2020

JDK, 10 Jun 2020yeah! If you want to game, use those gaming laptops. Suddenly people bring up gaming as a weak... moreYou need to understand,Apple Haters have this need to come to Apple topics and impose their crap on happy Apple users :’D and the reason is due to the fact that they are unhappy with their cheap and laggy windows and android setups so they feel the need to come spew nonsense on Apple topics. If they were happy with their setups they actually would not be here. :)

Just laugh at them, poor things.

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D135215
  • DrummerAJL
  • 4IT
  • 10 Jun 2020

Bad move from Apple, they should have gone with AMD Ryzen 4000 series. ARM chips with x64 will lose further game support than x86, and possibly even Windows modding. If you are a casual user, a pro user or a gamer, Windows is still superior in almost every way. MacOS is far behind, this isn't a preference.

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D135215
  • DrummerAJL
  • 4IT
  • 10 Jun 2020

JDK, 10 Jun 2020Well, they should be about 50% faster than the iPHone 12s, which means approximately 20-30% fa... moreiPads aren't even more powerful than computers, they aren't even comparable in the same category. This "laptop" only scores 17k on geekbench, actual high end full sized laptops have 16 core desktop chips. High end laptops have 128GB ram vs 6GB. High end laptops have 28TB storage instead of 1TB. High end laptops have an RTX 2080 Super. Even power efficient laptops beat out the iPad Pro. I'd bet if Apple released a sheet of paper for $6000 with the apple logo, you would still defend it iSheep.

Here is a chart I found. https://i.imgur.com/Y9Tzwse.jpg

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J1806403
  • JDK
  • ybx
  • 10 Jun 2020

Qwerty2020, 10 Jun 2020premium OS, for me, is OS that is used by MOST people in the world, support VAST application, ... more"all smartphone experts"

Show me which ones. I can't find a single one that says A series is the most battery sucking chipsets in the world.

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J1806403
  • JDK
  • ybx
  • 10 Jun 2020

LilPhone, 10 Jun 2020I can't even game with that Dell XPS (except GTX 1650 Max-Q option) or the pricier HP Spectre/... moreyeah! If you want to game, use those gaming laptops. Suddenly people bring up gaming as a weakness at MacOS when the laptops aren't even for gaming: they are supposed to be professional powerhouses or ultrabooks. In these cases, MacOS is usually stronger.

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S595225
  • SizN80
  • rwq
  • 10 Jun 2020

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2020Apple is so cheap quality that no one buys Mac OS. Tech reviewers around the globe laugh at ... moreNow you are just lying :)
Get back to me when those cheap windows laptops can match Mac profit margins, design studios but Macs and developers love Macs. Don’t let your jealousy blind you.

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