Anonymous, 09 Aug 2020The main point here it it lower the cost of the phone. Let's say you have old iPhone acce... moreBro the fact of a matter is ...those things that lower the cost will acutly incrse the cost for the user...I dont wanna sound arrogant but...trust me those 5w older chargers are creap comparing to lets say 10-12w,not to mention the 18w that the 11 pro came with....So if you good with them selling you a phone which does not have a headphone pair,a charger or even who knows maybe a cable...its your problem...Imo this so called accessories are strndar and should be added in each bundle....if you have a fast charing iphone (8,8+,x,xs,etc) use it with the 18w charger and than swap back to the 5w one and see the difference which ,if you let it over night you wont see any but if your in a hurry and leave it 30min with the 18w you get almost 50% battery while with 5w you get at best 25%....For the good of the customers instead of wanting to me the same profit from each unit as they did the years before,why not lose a little but keep customers happy...I mean lets say they made 659 on each unit why not make 655 or 650 on each this year but keep customers happy and give them all the things the modeles before had
kiloh3rtz, 31 Jul 2020This is absolut BS...I mean sure why not just put the phone in a "plastic eco friendly&qu... moreThe main point here it it lower the cost of the phone. Let's say you have old iPhone accessories on your home, then you could use it for replacement. This strategy is for budget friendly. Because some hardwares of the phone costing so high so they think it would be very expensive. To make it similar price from the iPhone 11 series, they remove all accesories.
This is absolut BS...I mean sure why not just put the phone in a "plastic eco friendly" bag and send it like that or better just send it wihtout and thing just send the phone without a screen you want the screen its extra...the base model screenless is 1.1k euros....I myself own an iPhone 11 pro and I can say this while I am not a fan of Apple I do like iPhones...But this ,this is just wierd...The headphones are a must since most headphones dont least more than 1 year before they go bad on iphone...The power brick also if they can do 20-30-1000000 w why not include it...Yeah I have the old 5w and ofc the 18w...but those 18w only came with pro models ...so maybe some1 who comes from iphone 7-8 x,xs dont have those 18w bricks and trust me adding 30 euros for the brick 20-30 euros for a cable and another 30-250 euros(if you wanna go wireless) adds well...atleast 90 euros maybe even 100...on top of a phone whose already 1.1k....Not a pretty smarth move.....Also saying that 5g modems added to cost ,yes they did but also samsung and others added 5g and all the other things including an adaptor for easy move....Sooooo that logic dont stand...I does stand if you wanna add futures to a phone and wanna keep your profit the same...and sell the phone at the same price...in this situation the only way to cut costs is cutting down the accessories...But for Apple the bircks the headphones and the cables cost maybe dollar if not peenys soo...That is what I call call corporation greedyness...Final word I wont buy another iPhone if this flys...rather buy a 1 plus or even a samsung...
Anonymous, 29 Jun 2020...and we have a choice to buy or not. I don't get what arguement you are trying to get. The i... moreMEGALOL for ur 'childish' mind...
U said that "The industry in general is shifting away from useless accessories"
What about TWS earbuds?
Aren't those things are USELESS in essence, as the conventional charger and earphone are working fine (heck, it's better than the 'wireless' in SO MANY things).
The last, u talk about choice.
What 'choice' do people have when they already 'trapped' in Apple's environment?
NOTHING; no OEM build a smartphone with iOS other than iphone, so, if Apple decide that they are going to exclude charging brick & earphone, that's it.
in short; u have to accept what Apple give to u without complain.
That's not the case in Android, where u can get other brands' device if u don't like of the ommision of feature(s) in their preferred brand (MicroSD slot, notch, camera, fast charger, etc)
Don't know about the rest of you, but I've got chargers from: Samsung (GS4, GS7), HTC (Touch Dual, One M7), Apple (iPhone 4, iPhone X), and Essential (PH-1). I could probably go the rest of my life without acquiring another charger and still have too many. Also, the last pair of pack-in headphones I actually used were from the iPhone 4.
The first phone I ever saw ship without a charger was an early series Moto E or G. Back then it seemed crazy, but at this point it actually makes a lot of sense to me not to. My work has an electronics recycling collection bin, and from it we have donated or recycled boxes upon boxes of just old chargers over the years.
If leaving out a power brick and set of headphones helps offset some of the (IMO totally unnecessary) 5G tax, I'm fine with it.
JDK, 03 Jul 2020https://www.engadget.com/2019-08-23-us-phone-upgrade-strategy-analytics.htmlWorld doesn't revolve around the US. Give us global statistics.
US has worst choice of phone manufacturers to choose from and most people being tied by 2 years contract makes the US statistics extremely bogus and unreliable compared to world statistics.
Anonymous, 03 Jul 2020Hahahaha and where do you get your statistics from? I say 90% of people change their phone wit... morehttps://www.engadget.com/2019-08-23-us-phone-upgrade-strategy-analytics.html
DrummerAJL, 03 Jul 2020This whole "don't charge your phone overnight" thing has been proven against ov... moreYou are being fooled by phone companies. Fine if you wish to continue to contribute to electrical waste.
JDK, 02 Jul 2020are you sure? Then why do 90% of people keep on keeping their phone for 3 years if 90% of them... moreHahahaha and where do you get your statistics from? I say 90% of people change their phone within 2 years because of dying batteries.
Anonymous, 02 Jul 2020I also believe myself. My family members have spoilt their phone batteries in less than 2 year... moreThis whole "don't charge your phone overnight" thing has been proven against over and over.
Anonymous, 02 Jul 2020I also believe myself. My family members have spoilt their phone batteries in less than 2 year... moreare you sure? Then why do 90% of people keep on keeping their phone for 3 years if 90% of them charge overnight?
Wily2020, 01 Jul 2020I believe myself, i always been charging my phones overnight and usually i use my phones many ... moreI also believe myself. My family members have spoilt their phone batteries in less than 2 years by charging overnight while my phone battery is still healthy after almost 3 years of usage.
Bogdan, 01 Jul 2020Well, first of all, I always buy my iphones second hand from specialized stores. The warranty ... moreYour store sounds dodgy. Any reputable store will not buy a phone for resale without the original packaging and accessories. More likely that store took out the original chargers and cables and sold them separately, yielding them additional profits. Apple took a leaf from them. I would suggest you stop patronising such shops with dodgy practices.
Anonymous, 01 Jul 2020An argument full of fallacies. No wonder so many people complain that their phone battery capa... moreI believe myself, i always been charging my phones overnight and usually i use my phones many years. You are propably doing lot more harm for your battery by using fast charger than charging it overnight. There isn’t any data that charging your phone overnight will have any noticable effect on your battery, because it’s imposssible to measure because we are now talking about something which happening in very long period of time, not just suddenly. So if you care your battery so much that you won’t charge it overnight then i recommend to not use fast charger.
Wily2020, 01 Jul 2020This is false, you can charge your phone overnight without no problem for the battery, propabl... moreAn argument full of fallacies. No wonder so many people complain that their phone battery capacities become reduced within a year. You believe what phone companies tell you? They can't wait for you to kill off your phone's non-removable battery asap and buy a new phone to replace it.
Best fun here would be if othjer companies will follow this.
Like many phones comming without jacks and so no headphones or earplugs anyway.
Wily2020, 01 Jul 2020That’s not true, as long as the charger is MFI cerfified (lot of them are) you have no problem.Yes no problem and if your phone blows up Apple will be ready to deny damages citing users weren't using unnecessarily expensive charger.
Imagine Apple providing 100W charging, they'll charge 500 dollars just for the charger.
JDK, 30 Jun 2020Who needs to buy that top tier iPhone? There is something called base model iPhone SE that mak... moreNobody except ppl with midget hands buying SE 2020.
Tiny 4.7 inch screen is cumbersome for most users.
IPhone 12 is a much better buy than SE garbage.