Versatile Video Codec (H.266) finalized, will produce 50% smaller files than HEVC (H.265) Comments
- dude111
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Anonymous, 07 Jul 2020There's no way it's only twice.
Every codec from h.263 and up has FAR exceeded the ... moreYou're right.
It's definitely higher, but that 50x sounds too much.
From h264 --> h265 was around 10x more cpu intensive
But again it wouldn't matter as the vast majority of devices are going to use a media block to accelerate both encode and decode.
- tehyadro
- svM
This is great news actually.
I remember encoding in 2010 movies 480p/720p/1080p.
But back then encoders couldnt utilize much of the processor speed.
I used to encode with handbrake,staxrip,mkvmerge and a few others i dont remember the name now.
If the applications use the full power of a hexa or octa core cpu then this is really good.
If
- Mediatek sux
- ypY
Fulljack, 07 Jul 2020I still remember when I started watching HEVC videos in 2014, when it was just been released a... moreWdym smaller size and higher bitrate? Both are smaller.
- Mediatek sux
- ypY
Dengusoft, 06 Jul 2020Storage got bigger,the internet faster and files smaller...now that's progress.More space for other stuff than videos? Games for example are only getting bigger.
- Arsov 36
- 0VS
what? is it ok?
- Anonymous
- D06
Dengusoft, 06 Jul 2020Storage got bigger,the internet faster and files smaller...now that's progress.Lol
- Anonymous
- j5$
dude111, 06 Jul 2020A lot more, probably 2x.
But it doesn't matter as everything will have a videoblock enco... moreThere's no way it's only twice.
Every codec from h.263 and up has FAR exceeded the previous codec's computational requirements.
Heck, h.264's best entropy coding, cabac, wasn't widely used for the first few years due to its legendarily high single thread speed reqs (cavlc was used instead).
This codec is going to be at least 50x more computationally expensive.
- Anonymous
- j5$
Fulljack, 07 Jul 2020I still remember when I started watching HEVC videos in 2014, when it was just been released a... more"the size were smaller yet the quality are much better. the bitrate were much higher"
Ehh?
For the same content a file can't be both smaller and have a higher bit rate.
- kurotsuki
- uEx
salarx, 06 Jul 2020It depends. 50% as an average case, worst case or best case? AV1 is said to be 20-30% more eff... moreIf in HEVC era we can have AV1 that is more efficient (at least in processing and licensing wise, while maintaining similar/close enough quality to HEVC), let's hope that in VVC era, we can witness the birth of it's equivalent (maybe AV2 or something). Who knows.... :D
- Anonymous
- t7v
salarx, 06 Jul 2020It depends. 50% as an average case, worst case or best case? AV1 is said to be 20-30% more eff... moreSame hahaha
- Fulljack
- Ki4
I still remember when I started watching HEVC videos in 2014, when it was just been released and started being used. compared to AVC, the size were smaller yet the quality are much better. the bitrate were much higher. too bad no device at the time had HW decoder for HEVC, so device must rely on SW decoder using CPU. it really take a toll on your smartphone battery and temperature, until device start shipping with proper HW decoder.
well, I just hope that current device now are efficient enough unlike those from 6 years ago.
- Anonymous
- JT5
Looks like it will be available only in 2027.
- NotAnOpinion
- 4dt
AlexRivas, 06 Jul 20208K is not necessary at all. But good for 360° videos and 4k HDR ones. In how many years do you... moreSeeing as that Apple is also leading in this codec -Apple TV, Apple TV+, etc - not no where near that long of a wait.
- zodiacfml
- xCD
Yet Google photos converts H265 videos and HEIC images to MP4 and JPEG. What's up google?🙄
- Anonymous
- g}u
Guess first phone with h. 266..?
- Anonymous
- fFA
Bigsie, 06 Jul 2020I remember close to 10yrs ago i was at some IT Expo and there were three dudes that had audio ... moreDo you remember any details like name and stuff? Seems like that is a good improvement to mp3
- Anonymous
- LHe
Anonymous, 06 Jul 2020Is it better than AV1?AV1 is not good for anything other than bandwidth. Completely different purpose.
- vrvly
- g5f
Anonymous, 06 Jul 2020Right? Hopefully they don't device to forgo original quality option altogether. You never know, future movies may be text messages as well, AI turning scenario into video. Why not, they can change scenery and put you in movie now, what may be in the future...
I have seen that 8K, it's quite realistic, definitely not gimmick.
Original copies will be pricy to store so its way more easy to have smaller copy at 1/10 size with similar quality.
I don't mind few % of visuals missing, in audio it's different though, audio is the best lossless, it's way more easy to spot difference.
When I coded some old movies, size of video was about 1/10 but audio was original, sometimes bigger file size than video part. It's like with raw in photo, you got no longer option for improving quality, but if done right it looks the same if not better.
- Anonymous
- JT5
AlexRivas, 06 Jul 20208K is not necessary at all. But good for 360° videos and 4k HDR ones. In how many years do you... more4K HDR is supported since SD845.
But only Sony, Samsung and LG chose to offer.
Other do not have because they do not want to spend money on the software.
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