Andreidinutu, 19 Jul 2020Convenience is the thing that lets you make the least effort for something. It's not the ... moreIt's just your tastes. Wired phones are easily reachable and i will wait at least 2 generations of a phone to go for wireless charging. I don't need now. Faster wired charging is way better.
AnonD-923722, 19 Jul 2020What do you mean by Convenience? Can you explain it to me? Many people even prefer a slow 10W ... moreConvenience is the thing that lets you make the least effort for something. It's not the speed that that thing is done, but how quick you do it (as a person). 30W charging melts your phone by the way. Convenience is also when something requires less effort to do, such as putting a second door handle to a truck door, just so you can reach it easier
The M2 Pro is just a rebranded Redmi Note 9 Pro with a different charger. Its existence is pointless, fortunately only India is receiving this model. We don't even have a Redmi Note 9S and 9 Pro Max here, only vanilla 9 and 9 Pro.
Speaking of the F2 Pro, it has been underestimated initially in SE Asia (this is a price and specs-conscious market) but I was surprised that it was actually cheaper than realme flagships while offering superior build quality and software (does not match Samsung/iPhones, mind). It's the cheapest SD865 phone.
Recent initial launch (i.e. Indonesia) of the F2 Pro was a very welcome one, heck even Xiaomi's marketing head Alvin Tse was proud of that one. Malaysia and Philliphines market should also be successful as well.
It doesn't matter what those specs lookers say. It has done very well. Realme X2 Pro with 90Hz OLED and being the cheapest SD855+ phone that time flopped.
The F2 Pro may be my next phone probably the end of the year. Once EOFY deals strike and I have received enough user reviews.
ThePong, 19 Jul 2020Cheap LCD panels are prone to screen ghosting or retention. The Redmi Note 8 was famous for th... moreI'm replying because I prefer OLED than high-refresh cheap LCD panels that are prone to issues. OLED are all the way to go. Or a 60Hz high quality LCD with highest color coverage and zero backlight bleed and good viewing angles.
Andreidinutu, 19 Jul 2020And also I want most of those. Have you ever heard about convenience? We Europeans want that, ... moreCheap LCD panels are prone to screen ghosting or retention. The Redmi Note 8 was famous for that. Other LCDs in cheap realme also has this problem.
The only LCD panel that do not have such issues are the iPhone XR and 11, but you must compensate for lower screen resolution. This and very few LCD phones have nearly or 100% P3 color space coverage.
Cheap LCD panels have very poor coverage even lesser OLEDs have done significantly better in this respect.
Andreidinutu, 19 Jul 2020And also I want most of those. Have you ever heard about convenience? We Europeans want that, ... moreWhat do you mean by Convenience? Can you explain it to me? Many people even prefer a slow 10W Wireless Charging compared to fast 30W Wired Charging. Can you explain it to me so i understand about the 'Convenience'?
AnonD-923722, 19 Jul 2020OLEDs are less important than High Refresh Rate. 90hz/120hz displays are usefull, they can ma... moreAnd also I want most of those. Have you ever heard about convenience? We Europeans want that, and guess what, if we don't get it we stick with samsung
POCOisDead, 19 Jul 2020I guess as an Indian my words may have sounded as perceiving smartphone ideology that I consid... moreYeah well as a romanian (definetley didn't expect that one did ya) I care about performance and convenience. Software, ip rating, no way fast charging (melts your phone). Wireless charging is not all that cool but for the sake of convenience I can have it. I also care about sound, but that I do trough my headphones and the camera is not meant to make me a photographer, for that I have my own photocamera
all i really want from poco is a cheap 5G phone with performance like snapdragon 845 at least .
its ok if it has plastic body like poco f1 cause i slab a case on my phone anyways
AnonD-923722, 19 Jul 2020OLEDs are less important than High Refresh Rate. 90hz/120hz displays are usefull, they can ma... moreThat's your opinion. I think lcd's are far worse, especially that when you apply just a little bit of pressure to it it makes waves. That looks like late 90's car dislapys
AnonD-923722, 19 Jul 2020Poco, please make a device like this : -6,3 inch IPS LCD 600 nits 60hz -Snapdragon 855+ with... moreNot gonna happen. There is no any point to release a phone with older chipset. Poco F2 Pro is your answer. Go for it. It is great.
AnonD-923722, 19 Jul 2020OLEDs are less important than High Refresh Rate. 90hz/120hz displays are usefull, they can ma... moreThat is just your opinion.
The points you have specified as 'no' are the points which are critical for me. My usage is video consumption and I don't give a rat about 120hz. High contrast and inky blacks, hell yes. Super accurate colors, hell yes (what's the use of buying a phone which great camera if you can't adjust your results to match the reality). HDR that is actually HDR, hell yes.
OLEDs are bright enough for outdoor use (if 800nits ain't bright, I dunno what you want)
OLEDs also have good viewing angles. Now I wonder how many care about watching a movie with 10 people on a 6" screen.
You should stop trying too represent all the people and shove your opinions as the opinion of all the people. I respect your ideals of the perfect smartphone, but they are not mine. They are not everyone. So stop spamming and actively bashing the views of those who disagree with you.
At the launch event of this phone, the CEO said :
"It is better to make 1 High Quality product rather than many of Low Quality products"
That's true only for the Pocophone F1. Not for the 2020 Poco. Poco M2 Pro, Poco X2, Poco F2 Pro are just a rebranded phone. Sure, they are high quality, But, Designed By Poco? Gotta be Kidding me.
Poco, stop rebranding and dk your job like when you do the Poco F1. Don't destroy your own philosophy like Xiaomi and Oneplus did.
[deleted post]This is what a phone should truly be.
And Please, for Qualcomm
Please sell a version of your chip in 4G, your useless Half Baked 5G is inly useful in some places. People in 4G area need to pay the same, that's not fair. Because of Qualcomm, Phones in 2020 have risen in prices. Maybe Qualcomm will lose to Mediatek and Kirin in popularity, not power on the chip.
[deleted post]I guess as an Indian my words may have sounded as perceiving smartphone ideology that I consider mine superior to the others (which I apologize for), it was never my intent to disparage Chinese smartphone ideology.
What I want to highlight is that the design decisions are made with a specific market audience in focus and Poco F1 was designed with Indian Audience in mind. (It was designed in India by Indian people if you'd check the history) All the other Xiaomi phones are designed considering Chinese Audience in mind. It is just that Indian audience don't care about 90W superfast charging, 5 cameras and 144hz panels. Chinese audience does which is why companies care a lot about the numbers. That is not to say that 144hz panels are not better, 90W charging is not useful or 5 cameras properly implemented are not better than 3. It is just the choices.
Sony and Sharp also designs with focus on the Japanese audience (the focus on sound and display as that is a massive thing in Japan), LG for Korean (the focus on style, colors and design), and Google for American (software updates, no hassle-free plug and play usage)
Look at how Samsung has different ideology for M-series and A-series even when they are quite similar (And how badly M-series is doing compared to other brands in India because of misplaced focus even if those phones are great)
Some of the features that I've seen western audience demand that most Indian and Chinese audience don't really care about are: IPX ratings, wireless charging, signal strength. Which is why you don't see those focused by the China-based companies. Only now that they are expanding in Europe have they started putting effort in that.
The point is that what the rest of the commenters here want are not in line with the Chinese ideals of the perfect smartphone so they should not expect Poco (which unless a model is designed from scratch for non-Chinese audience) to release one.