Fulljack, 01 Aug 2020I know that SoftBank sold Arm to raise money for their $100 billion fund vision, also after th... moreThat's just the excuse. In reality, they just threw cash everywhere in a purely speculative bid. That didn't work. Those issues arose before the pandemic. Now they just want to get whatever they can from those failures
By moving all these tech edge in the hands of USA is very dangerous. Tomorrow Samsung can be banned. Or Asus. Or anyone who is considered a threat to USA politics, even inside their own country.
This company should stay away from any company from China and USA! Europe is very good. Switzerland is the best.
AnonD-558092, 01 Aug 2020GSMArena didn't cover this but SoftBank is under a bit of financial trouble due to their ... moreI know that SoftBank sold Arm to raise money for their $100 billion fund vision, also after their other ventures did not profited enough due to the outbreak and quarantine. this doesn't mean that Arm will struggle too under SoftBank, but it does raise concern I admit.
TM Wang, 01 Aug 2020I see Red MagicM0nkey boi that you still have no reply for my comment from the Black Shark 3S ... moreLenovo Legion takes the crown... Followed by Asus RoG Phone 3... Very very closely followed by Red Magic 5S... And I would say pretty much equal or slightly better than all... (Due to mechanical pop up shoulder buttons and refrigerated (semiconductor) fan cooling). Is the Black Shark 3S Pro...
MagicMonkeyBoy, 01 Aug 2020This could be a great move for Android!!! Wouldn't mind an Nvidia logo on my gaming phone... moreI see Red MagicM0nkey boi that you still have no reply for my comment from the Black Shark 3S post. 😂
So, you agree ROG Phone 3 is the best gaming phone ??
Fulljack, 01 Aug 2020what do you mean? Arm under SoftBank were profit focused but they did not cut corners, that... moreGSMArena didn't cover this but SoftBank is under a bit of financial trouble due to their technology fund. They've been pushing for their properties to make more money somehow, including ARM. So far ARM resisted but that will happen, regardless of whoever owns them (buying ARM for 32G$ was dumb and ruined it)
AnonD-558092, 01 Aug 2020The EU would not let what you're suggesting happen (if they have anything to say about it... morewhat do you mean? Arm under SoftBank were profit focused but they did not cut corners, that's why they license their products to be custom engineered for their customers.
under tech companies, this will change because every company were using Arm solution directly, not building from the ground up from the ISA that is available, because that'll be too much effort.
if any, this will turn to be a monopoly under them.
Adul Al Salami Kebab, 01 Aug 2020Have you forgotten Tegra(ARM CPU + their own GPU)? Nvidia made SoC before and they can again, ... moreYou say that as if it was easy. Intel couldn't pull modems off. Intel. Surely if they want to license tech from Qualcomm, they would make sure that NVIDIA plays nice in return (likewise Samsung has advantageous deals with Qualcomm regarding tech and patents).
AND I don't see them making a phone. Again, it's hard to crack the market even if you find your niche, and NVIDIA doesn't have disposable income to gamble on a DoA phone.
Aaaanyway, regulatory bodies would object to the transaction normally, as it would be funded via massive debt. The proposed HP/Xerox wouldn't have worked for the same reason, and would have sunked both. So if NVIDIA went ahead, they could probably go bankrupt.
So don't worry. This wouldn't work. And ARM is doomed anyway due to SoftBank speculation.
IpsDisplay, 01 Aug 2020Thank you , you beat me to responding to him Apple is jumping to arm as well the implicatio... moreThe EU would not let what you're suggesting happen (if they have anything to say about it). I see what you're fearing though, but you should also know that thanks to SoftBank, ARM was going to get worse anyway. Prices will rise, conditions will be stricter. I'd rather if it's a tech company that buys them instead of yet another investment fund (YAIF) because YAIF only wants money and will gladly ruin the value of ARM for immediate cash. At least tech company will know what they're doing, and any shady business is likely to be faced with antitrust litigation due to obvious conflicts of interest (harder to do against YAIF)
AnonD-558092, 01 Aug 2020News flash: ARM Mali GPUs aren't competing with NVIDIA GPUs. The former are ultra low po... moreHave you forgotten Tegra(ARM CPU + their own GPU)? Nvidia made SoC before and they can again, the only thing they lack for making phones would be Wifi, LTE & 5G patents and they could make a full SoC all on their own, now they can a tablet / laptop and use a Intel or Qualcomm modem sure. Phone? Will be harder but they are getting closer to that also...
Berserker, 01 Aug 2020The bigger fish eats the smaler fish. Eliminating the competition imo. That's not something the consumer cares about. If you are some tech savvy who wants to see all types of variants and brands, bad luck. But for 99% of western people (not me since I'm a bit of an experimental guy, especially when it comes to lower prices, since romania is poor and stuff) nothing will actually change. If performance increases every year, that will be enough for them
AnonD-558092, 01 Aug 2020Why are people worried? NVIDIA is not a player in the mobile and tablet market. They don'... moreBuilding up a monopoly, that's bothersome. Just look at Amazon, Facebook and Apple. Soon every alternative will be owned by one or two companies and innovation will be lost.
Andreidinutu, 01 Aug 2020What's bad in merging 2 of the best tech companies?!?The bigger fish eats the smaler fish. Eliminating the competition imo.
I didn't even know Nvidia had 55 billion
Adul Al Salami Kebab, 01 Aug 2020News flash dude ARM also has GPU licence for mobile and they design the Mali GPU often used in... moreNews flash:
ARM Mali GPUs aren't competing with NVIDIA GPUs. The former are ultra low power (yet scalable), the latter much more powerful and power-hungry. NVIDIA would do well to keep those fully separated efforts or Qualcomm will become dominant (and let's not forget those AMD-based GPUs Samsung will allegedly use next year). Battery life is still hyper important and thus needs bespoke products. Mobile challenges are radically different from what NVIDIA is working on.
Anonymous, 01 Aug 2020Have you heard of the Tegra chips in Nvidia Shields and Nintendo Switch? They've been ma... moreWhy yes I did. I use the 16nm X1 die shrink in my Switch.
They failed at phones because of modems. Getting NVIDIA Tegras + modems + licenses (usually from Qualcomm) was getting more expensive than just going for Qualcomm. I might be wrong there though.
Windows computer without nvidia gpu is useless. Same for android without snapdragon chipset. From my experience.