haha. everyone always said ohh i didnt want buy samsung anymore. but samsung is always one of top selling company in any year. people just buy snapdragon samsung that is from usa and few region. but rest of the world still get exynos. then why samsung is still standing huh
GiggidyGiggidy, 14 Sep 2020God I love triggering Samsung fanboys 🤪 https://www.anandtech.com/show/11540/samsung-galaxy... moreActually, it fun to trigger any fanboy, you know one, when you can't logically rationally discuss over a topic and skew fact into their own propaganda fabrication of fact(s).
GiggidyGiggidy, 14 Sep 2020God I love triggering Samsung fanboys 🤪
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11540/samsung-galaxy... moreI also love bashing the stupid/half-headed Samsung haters.
What did AnandTech say ?
Exynos 8895 has better efficiency at regular usage(with the CPU).
But SD 835 has better efficiency when Full performance kick in.
And Exynos has higher performance than SD835. So, it eats up slightly more juice. What defines efficiency is "performance/wattage"
Here is a para from AnadTech,,,
""Hardware comparisons are a little easier when rendering at a fixed resolution offscreen. The S8 (E8895) is the fastest Android phone in this test, and its wider Mali-G71 GPU configuration bests the Kirin 960’s high-frequency approach by 16%. This is about half the E8895’s theoretical advantage when looking solely at compute/texturing resources, suggesting the E8895 is bottlenecked elsewhere. The S8 (E8895) is also considerably faster than the S835 version in this test, with the gap growing to 50%. We’ve already seen the E8895 outperform the S835 in other shader-intensive workloads, and ARM’s Mali GPUs historically handle this test’s workloads well, so this is not a huge surprise.In addition to the results shown above, Basemark ES 3.1 also measures the performance of specific graphical features. The E8895 outperforms the S835 in all of these subtests, but it does particularly well when performing SSAO (screen space ambient occlusion), a technique used for calculating soft shadows, where it’s 58% faster than the S8 (S835). The delta between the E8895 and S835 versions shrinks to only 16% in the post-processing test (depth of field, antialiasing, etc) and 8% in the particle instancing test.
Overall the Galaxy S8 delivers excellent peak graphical performance. It offers a significant performance uplift over the Galaxy S5 and S6, although its gains over the S7 and last year’s crop of S820/S821 flagships are not as impressive. The performance delta between the E8895 and S835 versions of the S8 varies depending on workload, but the E8895 S8 is faster in most of our tests. ""
AnonD-754814, 14 Sep 2020The Exynos 8895 is more efficient than SD 835.
You're just straightly lying here.
Exy... moreGod I love triggering Samsung fanboys 🤪
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020I have an S8 Exynos and even that has worse battery life than its SD counterpart. My opinion a... moreThe Exynos 8895 is more efficient than SD 835.
You're just straightly lying here.
Exynos was always more efficient than Qualcomm before exynos 8895.
As they're coming back to regular Arm cortex core again it's only a matter of time since Samsung's Exynos is the efficiency KING again(though rumor says they might use custom core derived from cortex X1 core).
dude111, 14 Sep 2020Yep
We may even see regression on power consumption metrics against 865, or worse, more agg... moreFor your info, Samsung has made SD, Apple SoC in the past. None of them performed bad. So, this year will be no different.
You should know this.
In Qualcomm's history the worst SoC was disastrous SD 810.
And It was manufactured by "TSMC".
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020"Samsung's advanced low-power processes with High-K metal gate technology offers SoC... moreYou're pathetic.
You can't even read things and understand it.
System LSI has 3 sub-divisions.
1. Application processor(this is the subdivision that designs exynos SoC).
2. Camera sensor.
I don't waste my time with ignorant guys. I'm not gonna reply further to this topic.
Have a nice day.
AnonD-754814, 14 Sep 2020Not true here.
TSMC's 5nm node is actually better. I think Samsung is offering better va... moreYep
We may even see regression on power consumption metrics against 865, or worse, more aggressive throttling.
Other company buy Samoled from Samsung make same spec as samsung and a samsung who used their own display but other company sell cheaper phone than Samsung.
Samsung use their own processor and other company buy processor from outside but other company sell cheaper price better processor phone than Samsung.
The only thing samsung survive in the market is because still some people loyal to nonchinese phone. But still samsung lost lots of customer to Chinese company. Do samsung want to do something to bring back their customer. Looks like not.
And EU still forced to use Exynos garbage.
Scrap that garbage and give EU Snapdragon lol.
AbhiramReji602, 14 Sep 2020Nobody deserves that much torture
not even ,mid rangers or budget phonesmidrange exynos chips never had the issues of the large core designs. So they have always been at least on par if not ahead sometimes.
So what are you getting at besides blind hate?
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020I have an S8 Exynos and even that has worse battery life than its SD counterpart. My opinion a... moreThe only area the s8 snapdragon has better battery is for straight non stop gaming. Everywhere else the exynos is better. Better in cpu, audio, and overall efficiency.
And even now the changes were for a reason. They could have been executed better but they were for the birth of larger more powerful cores. And we were to soon see the benefits.
And if you even have the slightest clue what you're talking about then you know that there was no avoiding some of the first couple year initial issues of such changes to large cores. Apple and Qualcomm struggled with similar changes too.
Unfortunately for the executing of the current chips and for the death of the future ones... company ceos are incompetent morons.
They were clearly being forced to focus more on numbers and benchmarks then proper efficiency and setup.
So adding up new large cores, forced to push numbers, and it finally being a time frame that qualcomm starting taking efficiency seriously finally altogether finally pushed snapdragon ahead some.
Doesn't make exynos bad. Doesn't erase the near decade lead exynos had.
And doesn't change the lead exynos was working to bring.
However now going back to regular or hopefully their semi custom more efficient cores the exynos next year will return to either matching or surpassing snapdragon again.
So whats the issue exactly?
SAMSUL, 14 Sep 2020Then Samsung will fool all smartphone customers like they did with exynosFully agreed, no one should buy their phones
SAMSUL, 14 Sep 2020Then Samsung will fool all smartphone customers like they did with exynosSo an overall lead in cpu, efficiency, audio, and sometimes gpu from s1 to s8 is fooling?
A departure from the lead because of a new design of large cores that was close to bringing big benefits to all is fooling?
And best of all I fail to see where manufacturing these has anything to do with designing large cores. How is that the same?
Their chip fabrication and process is great. Tmsc might have a small lead in that area but samsungs is still top of the line.
And did you know apple struggled for years with heat, throttle, and power consumption after switching to large cores?
Qualcomm fell behind for two years just from trying to switch to 8 cores.
Then Samsung will fool all smartphone customers like they did with exynos
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020And that comment eliminated the last crumb of credibility you had left. Over 46 000 people hav... moreAnd also, it's an opinion. It doesn't bother me to have it. I would take a qualcom over an exynos if I were allowed with no added effort. But if I get an exynos it doesn't bother me.
Here you come again, saying that other people's opinions are wrong. I gave you a reason why I like it, and you don't consider it. Like a troller. Much of an apologize you made last time huh
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020That battery is not that much worse. You are just being a hater. Where was this petition from... moreI have an S8 Exynos and even that has worse battery life than its SD counterpart. My opinion about Exynos is based on experience with those hot and inefficient chips. Nobody is holding Samsung back to actually redesign their SoCs and compete. It's people like you who buy into their bad products and now they don't make an effort to improve anymore.
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020That battery is not that much worse. You are just being a hater. Where was this petition from... moreThe situation is different now, but yes the battery is not much worse. And to be honest I really don't care about the last 5 percent of the battery. Never in my life I actually needed those. Don't start me with extreme situations, as those don't happen not even to 1% of the world's population. And in most cases you don't even have signal