Nvidia want to monopolize the ARM architecture for speculate and inflate the prices of the ARM Cpu's and Gpu's for have the prices they want like they do with their ultra-inflated graphic cards.
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020what an quixotic observation What trashy English. Does it bother you that much to look up the definition of a word before using it? Also, in this case it's "a quixotic..." not "an quixotic..." Did you even go to school, bro?
Vegetaholic, 15 Sep 2020Lol. BS. You completely forgot to understand that efficiency is the key here. Arm is miles ahe... moreNot a lot to discuss about here, since you're clearly misinformed and refuse to acknowledge it.
Most of ARM's IP is NOT free, never mind being open source. Even the part of which ARM open up, which is the CortexM-series is partial, not FLOSS.
Giving the compute performance, ARM only has some performance lead at very specific conditions, by extension the 'efficient' you mean, solely reflects in it performance at other general purpose computing, which is by far slower. Again, ARM isn't new in the market, there were many other RISC contender to compete against the x86/64 market, but pretty much all failed. Most technologically promising for me was the Digital's Alpha CPUs, way ahead of it time. But, like many great tech, it didn't caught on, and the company eventually was split and sold. IBM PowerPC, Intel's own Itanium, Transmeta Crusoe (both VLIW, by extension RISC), all failed. The next best thing, may just be Apples own upcoming ARM, which Apple may afford to do, as Apple desktop has very specific target audience, they just may optimize far enough just to compete for at least the next 2-3 gen. Even Sun's UltraSparc development has being slow and are now, most exclusively being deployed in servers to for specific use (like ARM).
If you don't acknowledge any of this fact, I have nothing more to say. You can rant in your own little hole.
Vegetaholic, 15 Sep 2020And waht thst means?? Anyone can used it genus, Arm not keeping desing to themselfs and share ... moreARM being closed source is a fact. Check out Wikipedia for starters.
There's a reason Huawei can't use ARM's instruction set without their explicit permission. Unlike for eg. AOSP where Google's approval is not required in order to use it.
It is not yet understandable if this is good for ARM. Nvidia never had any good experience with in buying other firms..they also do not give any credit to any of the technology they use or improve from any of their acquisition.
Vegetaholic, 15 Sep 2020And waht thst means?? Anyone can used it genus, Arm not keeping desing to themselfs and share ... moreSo any product/Intellectual property, that's monetized through the sale of licenses to third-parties is open-source now? You're woefully misguided. Just because it's available to third-parties doesn't mean it's open-source. The ARM ISA license is proprietary and closed-source unlike RISC-V.
"tried to be smart but ended up like usual."
Very self-aware I see.
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2020Nvidia is a Behemoth, but not what you're thinking. If ARM were so great, x86/64 would fa... moreLol. BS. You completely forgot to understand that efficiency is the key here. Arm is miles ahead of efficiency and keep pushing its performance close to x86. Hence the reason it is everywhere in mobile devices and getting into laptop realms, there is no other way around. Arm is the future and x86 is dying design. X86 can only offer extreme performance but very inafficient. Same as it was with PowerPC, had great performance but died because of innaficiancy, same happening here with x86
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2020Please read what open source means. For someone quick to belittle others for their apparent la... moreAnd waht thst means?? Anyone can used it genus, Arm not keeping desing to themselfs and share it to the world, tried to be smart but ended up like usual.
Vegetaholic, 14 Sep 2020Lol, all cpus in a world of mobile devices runs on arm architecture so where was no competitio... morePlease read what open source means. For someone quick to belittle others for their apparent lack of knowledge, that's a pretty juvenile understanding of the concept.
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020But their Windows drivers are trash. Never buy AMD graphics cards agian.Lol, I currently use MSi Radeon 5700 XT and have ZERO issues with it including the drivers. Definitely not sure if I can agree with you.
Vegetaholic, 14 Sep 2020For China yes, for rest not really, US only cares now of controling ChinaToday is China, tomorrow could be you.
:-) Remember, the Nazis came first for your neighbours then they came for you.
Vegetaholic, 14 Sep 2020For China yes, for rest not really, US only cares now of controling Chinasince arm is in US hands, companies like Huawei will need a leg up from risc-v
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2020something something Nvidia only bought ARM because Trump wants to keep it away from Huawei or ... moreIf you want to look at the conspiracy side, sure...
Nvidia has plan and shown it's interest in server markets for awhile, ARM isn't the first company nVidia bought for this purpose, and it probably won't be the last. Even if they did bought for the purpose of get away, what wrong with that? One wish to sell, one wish to buy.. And if Huawei is so good and make everything they own, like they said, why would this be an issue?
If anything, ARM China's backlash is a sign of 'weakness', and worrying of it's tech business.
something something Nvidia only bought ARM because Trump wants to keep it away from Huawei or something
abhi, 14 Sep 2020would there be a US government behind this deal?Don't think so, Softbank is pretty much looking nearly at all their assets on investing level. ARM simply is holding them back, as the cost for them isn't as high with the return, and they do need more cash to invest in other options. Where if to keep ARM (a great bet in further down) will tighten down for cash for them. And to be honest, I think ARM is giving them a hard time on a management level. The Jap are just too soft, like part of the name. If the deal do go through, I expect the American to whip them into shape to become more profitable.
Vegetaholic, 14 Sep 2020Nvidia is now new Intel. Behemoth in technology industry as Arm processors soon will replace a... moreNvidia is a Behemoth, but not what you're thinking. If ARM were so great, x86/64 would fall long time ago against RISC. ARM instruction has it place, but when it comes to general purpose, it still not at the level of competing. When they do, they will face the same hurdle x86/64 fact - too many instruction.
Vegetaholic, 14 Sep 2020Lol, all cpus in a world of mobile devices runs on arm architecture so where was no competitio... moreARM is not open source. In fact any one using ARM require licensing their instruction set. The only viable CPU that is open source are Open RISC with RISC-V. Don't get by the Huawei market bro, they don't make jack shit for at least half of their claim. TSMC is only part of the leverage, ARM itself is also an issue. Why you think there was a back lash for ARM China went rouge and ARM Holding don't even know what to do with that crap? If I was Softbank Japan, I would also dump ARM to nVidia US, let the Americans deal with it.
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020Enjoy smartphone prices go up endlessly now. No competition against ARM...Lol, all cpus in a world of mobile devices runs on arm architecture so where was no competition for many years :D Though it is open source so Arm is not monopoly beast every company can create their own type of mobile cpu if they want based on Arm designs