Tann Hauser, 19 Sep 2020So, let us all here get this straight... You hate people buying expensive phones cause you ... moreWow... You just made him shut up! Great job! XD
Vegetaholic, 19 Sep 2020Sour when company like Sony has no innovation or imagination but charging customers for big bo... moreWhy are You whining? DON'T BUY IT!!! What is Your problem with WHAT I DO with MY MONEY?! If I can see the tiny details in engineering and overall attention to detail put into manufacturing and developing this device to guarantee me reliable use of the device for years to come. So far they're the only company working side by side with component manufacturers that aren't their own.. And if that all makes this phone worth it to me, then WHY SHOULD YOU BE BOTHERED WITH IT??
If You're just unaware of what is inside this tech in a more deeper and more meaningful way, or just uninterested in looking further into this, then so be it, no one is forcing this device on you!
There is litterally no other device to buy on the market, that is (relatively) compact and flagship tech, I don't want my phone to be a fricking briefcase to carry around, and I don't want to have to use cases and screen protectors, as I never do, and so far only Sony Xperia phones have stood this treatment. And due to my last experience with Samsung, it is no longer an option for me, even if they made a high-end compact.
[deleted post]So, let us all here get this straight...
You hate people buying expensive phones cause you hate people that have more money?
Or is it you just hate Sony?
Because mind you, all those companies you mention that offer cheaper devices you love, offer also more expensive 900+ devices to interested buyers...
So they too are scamming people for their money, by offering overpriced models that are no better than their own made 500- model devices.
And you seem to be oblivious to that fact.
[deleted post]so, your answer to my very specific question: 'name a 450 eur / usd smartphone to match characteristic-to-characteristic, spec-to-spec, feature-to-feature, both hardware and software" is a list of oem's and a few lines of bla, bla, bla.
so be it. take a look here, is a link to gsmarena (gsm supervisor has no reasons to remove it): gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note20_ultra_5g_bom_is_550_calculate_analysts-news-45209.php. for a more or less similar device samsung spends some 500 - 550 eur just to match the bom (bill of materials, if you do not know what that means...), more than 500 dollars, thus more than the 450 price of your phantasmagorical smartphone. also, fyi, sony's net profit margin in 2019 was about 8%, that is quite normal. the only way you can have a 500 usd/eur price for this device is cutting the profit margin (and there is not much room in 8%...) or you cut on the labour cost by paying miserable wages, exactly what the chinese companies do. personally, if i have to spend my savings for 4-5 days of work in order to buy a device produced by people paid decently, use it for 3-4 years and donate it to some kid after that, than i consider to be a fair price and i will gladly do that. got it?
Vegetaholic, 19 Sep 2020You just answer hes question. All yhose comonent will cost 450 or 500 euros and will offer sam... moreI see you favor reasonably priced devices and bash overpriced ones which do not offer features for the price. So by that logic, there are other iBrands to look at, and you'll find at least 11 differences where the 5 II is much better and thus offers better value ;)
L.O.R.D, 19 Sep 2020He'll probably name some Chinese phone as superior which likely uses a Sony camera sensor... moreYou just answer hes question. All yhose comonent will cost 450 or 500 euros and will offer same level of quality as your shitty Sony but for double less. Sony does not provide better cameras on their devices or better buil5 quality or superior battery life, actually worse in most of the cases, their 12 megapixel low res stuff can't even beat their own sensors on other manufacturer devices, because their software is not even close to competition. So yeah good luck wasting 900 euros for the name, when you can get same for 450 or 500 euros.
geek-a-contra, 19 Sep 2020oooh, you great master of the prices, please, enlighten us, the ignoramuses, and release us fr... moreHe'll probably name some Chinese phone as superior which likely uses a Sony camera sensors, LG display, Corning Glass, Samsung made RAM/storage in a plastic body with a copied Apple design. Funny thing is, all of those companies aren't even Chinese, but that phone, in his opinion would be far better than all others. LOL
Vegetaholic, 19 Sep 2020Sour when company like Sony has no innovation or imagination but charging customers for big bo... moreoooh, you great master of the prices, please, enlighten us, the ignoramuses, and release us from the darkness of ignorance, name a 450 eur / usd smartphone to match characteristic-to-characteristic, spec-to-spec, feature-to-feature, both hardware and software, this unholy piece of junk?
geek-a-contra, 19 Sep 2020sour are the grapes, aren't they now...?Sour when company like Sony has no innovation or imagination but charging customers for big boy prices, company like Sony has no place in mobile market and it reflects in its market share, can't wait for Sony to leg up, would be better for everyone
SuuperBaka, 18 Sep 2020I was under the impression they had OLED, I never really cared about their TVs either. That... moreThey moving Qled tech to OLED, should come up next year or so, Samsung is closing all major LCD factories in Korea.
Vegetaholic, 19 Sep 2020Sony, just die, you didin't lear from your past mistakes, making avarage phones but charg... moresour are the grapes, aren't they now...?
Shanti Dope, 17 Sep 2020You go cry there in a corner and just wish for a masterpiece like this to be cheap at $600 pri... moreTell me what is so special about this phone? Exactly, nothing and yet they asking 900 euros, so tell me who is going to be stupid here? You buying generic phone for 900 euros or buying same phone from other brand for 500?
Sony, just die, you didin't lear from your past mistakes, making avarage phones but charging 900 euros for this piece of crap instead of 450 euros. All you fans can put your fingers imwhere it does not shine this phone is terrible for the pricing and no one should ever buy it for this price.
L.O.R.D, 18 Sep 2020Agree, the OP8 Pro can't be better or even be compared with the Xperia 1, because the Son... moreSony has always been the innovator of all technology but Sony didn't tey hard enough to take top spot but I have gaith in Sony cause they've always made a quality product I just wish their phones were made of aluminum instead of plastic and no phone would stand next to it... they've always had the TECHNOLOGY...
The only remaining question will be its price then my switch from Huawei will be completed.
Anonymous , 18 Sep 2020But your phone dies faster. Of course, because he handles it like using a $50 phone.
KimJongYolo, 18 Sep 2020You are right in many regards. OP8 Pro is a remarkable device, no questions. But: it is a p... moreAgree, the OP8 Pro can't be better or even be compared with the Xperia 1, because the Sony has a ultra high resolution 4K display, and a tall 21:9 design, without notch, punch hole or pop-up selfie camera, just a clean and classic, timeless look like Xperia phones tend to have, while the OP looks kind of generic and unoriginal, and that gimmicky curved screen just turns me away. It's still a good phone though but not as good as 1
iOS Never Again, 18 Sep 2020My OP8 pro has IP68, great build quality, 120hz Oled, much better camera software than any Xpe... moreYou are right in many regards. OP8 Pro is a remarkable device, no questions.
But: it is a phablet. Not a phone. you can't even wear jeans anymore to carry it I guess. And maybe build quality is good, but it looks so ugly from my point of view - of coruse this is just my opinion.
In regards to camera performance, OP was never able to perform outstanding. I won't call it even "similar" to the mark 2 generation of xperias. From what I have seen in comparissons, it is definitly below Xperia 1 ii.
Plus, some details which makes it a blocker for me: no SD card slot, which is crazy if you use GoPro alot (since GoPro Cloud software is really shitty...), Punch-hole, no 3,5mm-Jack and that huge size...
But i understand your preference at least.
Anonymous, 18 Sep 2020The name Sony is enough?? LOL is that why Sony only managed to sell 400k units out of 700k in... moreThat's because innovation, high quality and craftsmanship doesn't come cheap, it costs
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