GregLu, 17 Sep 2020Sony cannot since over the years they "only" provide kinda a "pixel-like" ... moreMotorola UI is even closer to stock.
Just the cam app is added to android.
Moto Edge+ = 1200 euros.
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020And here’s one major os gone, so you’re left with one or two if you’re lucky. This phone shoul... moreIt would be unfair for the 1 II if this phone is to get Android 14. They were planning to give the same maximum support for both of these phones, so they can't make one better than the other, as that would ruin their plan of giving them equal treatment.
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020Doesn’t matter if Android versions mean nothing now, but a phone costing 1000 usd should get p... moreSony's software support has never been a weak point for them in recent years. There were even times when they received the latest security patches earlier than Pixel phones did.
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020810 was first SD to support 4K screen.
But hasn't changed since the fact 4K + 60Hz is t... moreMaybe, but it could also be because of the great amount of energy needed to use, which is why it gets limited.
I know about them. I just wondered what could have happened if those 120Hz panels really saw the light of the day to fully activate their high refresh rate panels. They were so ahead of the time.
Aadrian, 17 Sep 2020How about the Xperia 1 and 5? Will they be upgraded to Android 12 later? Both launched with 9 Pie.I'm afraid that's only for phone after Xperia 1 II ... :(
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020Oppo, Motorola, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Samsung, Huawei, Apple can all charge over 1000 euros for the... moreSony cannot since over the years they "only" provide kinda a "pixel-like" UI and killing all the relevant app (Album, Editing and so on). If they want to sell a lot, they should play the price point :)
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020Err, isn't providing the latest is what they are actually doing right now?They should have launched it on Android 11 "Officially" even with a update right on boot :)
At this price, that's normal to ask the best, better is at this price range and they can't miss this opportunity to come back (Huawei's ban, ...)
Pretty sure they reverse engineered Samsung's Tech :D
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020Power consumption
1080@120 > 4K@60 : 15-20%
OP8 PRO user here.
Getting 8.5-9hr SOT with 1080p@120hz.
Sony 4K60 will give maximum 6.5-7hr SOT.
Welcoming feature !
Sony is really working on support and listening the customers like reviving the jack and focusing on professional camera apps
How about the Xperia 1 and 5? Will they be upgraded to Android 12 later? Both launched with 9 Pie.
Shanti Dope, 17 Sep 20201. Changes to Android versions aren't that big enough to consider getting updates anymore... moreDoesn’t matter if Android versions mean nothing now, but a phone costing 1000 usd should get proper support
Jasper5774, 17 Sep 2020There was a time when there were gonna of mid and low range sony phones. Ever wonder what happ... moreIt's better to support 2 or 3 models in terms of software updates than 10-12 models. They have actually refined the design, the customer support and updates part. They are even selling more phones than last year. They have also shifted their focus of their smartphone business in only some core markets. I guess they are even making some profit from their phone business now. Comapred to last year. Same can't be said about their console business though.
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2020Oppo, Motorola, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Samsung, Huawei, Apple can all charge over 1000 euros for the... moreThere was a time when there were gonna of mid and low range sony phones. Ever wonder what happened to those. Year after year less and less sony models are launching. I won't be surprised if in next 2-3 years sony will be completely out of smartphone market like HTC.
Having a 120 Hz mode on the 1 II would be cool, but the 90 Hz Motion Blur reduction works already really well.
That will just be another thing on a really complete smartphone.
Shanti Dope, 17 Sep 20201. Changes to Android versions aren't that big enough to consider getting updates anymore... more810 was first SD to support 4K screen.
But hasn't changed since the fact 4K + 60Hz is the limit.
Since X series, all with 1080p or above are 120 or more.
Including XZ1c , despite being HD.
1. Changes to Android versions aren't that big enough to consider getting updates anymore. I pretty much have everything I need since Android Oreo, the rest can just be updated in software skin.
2. So it is true after all, that Sony uses 120Hz displays on their Xperias, but only hinders them to 60Hz to preserve battery life. Software wouldn't be able to recreate a 120Hz display accurately, it needs the hardware to do that, and perhaps it could even work up to 4K @120Hz if not for the incapacity of the SD865 to handle that display hardware.
But QHD+ at 120Hz is still perfectly fine. Now those phones would no longer have any missing feature at all.
Jasper5774, 17 Sep 2020Sony makes excellent phones with excellent software support but their launch prices are just a... moreOppo, Motorola, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Samsung, Huawei, Apple can all charge over 1000 euros for their main phones. But other brands cannot in your opinion.
I wonder how Xperia 1ii has better sales than 1, with price $250/€250 higher.
Sony makes excellent phones with excellent software support but their launch prices are just at the top.
If they would have followed right pricing they would have been relevant in the market.
Its clear case of no focus. They are too much invested in their other core business that smartphones segment is really not matter to them.