AnonD-754814, 19 Sep 2020Gaming phones feels stupid to me. I mean I'm not taking others choice away. They like w... moreGaming phones already are popular and every year companies introduce new and improved models because mobile gaming is catching up pretty fast and the games, they're just getting better and better, every major title on console is trying to have a mobile version and lot of them have already. I agree it can't match console quality graphics yet but not everyone has the time, space and resources to set up a console system, people just game on the go for the portability & convenience that gaming phones provide, and every iteration of these phones arrives as better, with advanced customisation options, added features and shoulder buttons. These phones also have advanced cooling, big batteries and various other optimizations so that they perform faster, always. So yeah, gaming phones are going to be even more popular IMO
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020Wha...??? I gave an example? What if it's not the most efficient chip? That's what I... moreYou're again comparing it wrong way.
SD 855 is definitely more efficient than Exynos 7904. Even SD 845 is more efficient.
You don't measure efficiency by how much power it takes at maximum load.
Efficiency is measured on performance per watt level.
You are comparing it wrong way as usual.
If overall powerdraw was the case then 5 year old Exynos 5422 would be more efficient than SD 865.
But that's not the case. Is that ?
Faster? Maybe. More stable and cool with better battery life? Never will happen. Snapdragon is amazing.
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020Wha...??? I gave an example? What if it's not the most efficient chip? That's what I... moreOF COURSE a low end chip is more efficient than a FLAGSHIP SoC. What is your logic xD...
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020Now again, you don't get it. He's talking about gaming phones as the best all rounde... moreWhat is the gaming phone price ? 800$ for Asus ?
A 800$ PC will give much better results.
Samsung wish. Lol
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020Now this is getting ridicolous. You just wanna bump up your comment count or smth (can't ... moreRead you comment again and check how it feels. It definitely feels like you're giving those example to show your 50 degree nicer.
You don't care about internal temp ?
A good gaming laptop having 1070 GPU(with intel CPU) will not surpass 50 degree keyboard temp.
AnonD-754814, 19 Sep 2020I meant to say the example you're giving is not suitable.
Because even the second most ... moreWha...??? I gave an example? What if it's not the most efficient chip? That's what I was saying, that even budget exynos chips are more energy efficient than sd flagship ones
Giving the 9611 would only prove my point more, but my example isn't wrong...
As I have said, wanna bump up your comment count, tell me so we can stop this
AnonD-754814, 19 Sep 2020Gaming phones feels stupid to me.
I mean I'm not taking others choice away. They like w... moreNow again, you don't get it. He's talking about gaming phones as the best all rounders. Which they're not
And who said people play games on their phones because they want? Phones are much cheaper than computrs (when it comes to gaming branded ones), therefore most people can finally afford top-notch gaming
And don't bring consoles here
AnonD-754814, 19 Sep 2020Why are you comparing Laptop CPUs with smartphone SoC ?
Also you're comparing it wrong.... moreNow this is getting ridicolous. You just wanna bump up your comment count or smth (can't blame you, once I did that as well, but when I was much smaller).
When have I compared desktop and smartphone cpu's???
I said that there is a huge normal temp difference between intel and amd, and there can be a very similar difference between sd and exynos. No comparing intel with exynos temp or smth.
Comparing it wrong? Haven't even been comparing them...
Laptop? Where'd that come from? I said intel and amd... just to take the batter/portability factor so it looks just as similar as possible to a phone? Ok I guess (sorry if my last sentence doesn't make much sense, it's quite late out here)
Again you rambling about me comparing temps
And I don't care about internal temps, I care about what the samsung game launcher temp is telling me. And what my hand feels. That's what matters on a phone
If you just wanna bump up your comment count, stop commenting to me as I feel obligated to awnser to all the non known trolls around here
Empty words, just to make people give exynos a 100rd chance.
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020Huh? 9611? What? We were talking about exynos in general. And your example proves my point muc... moreI meant to say the example you're giving is not suitable.
Because even the second most hated SoC 9611(990 as 1st) is more efficient than your example. That's what I tried to say.
Besides The most efficient SoC currently is an Exynos SoC.
It's Exynos 850. The most efficient SoC you can find now.
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020Please, don't just come into this like this. He keeps on banging about gaming phones, whi... moreGaming phones feels stupid to me.
I mean I'm not taking others choice away. They like what they like but I wonder why would someone waste their time playing FPS game on mobile screen ? The controls are terrible compared to keyboard, not to mention the graphics feels like 10 years older by PC standard.
Gaming Phone will never become popular. They will attract a few consumer but will never become popular.
AnonD-754814, 19 Sep 2020Exynos 7904 has much less efficiency than Exynos 9611. Huh? 9611? What? We were talking about exynos in general. And your example proves my point much better than my example
AnonD-754814, 19 Sep 2020Why is he irritating ?
Because his opinion doesn't match with you ?
In fact Samsung is ... morePlease, don't just come into this like this. He keeps on banging about gaming phones, while I (a bs 2 owner) have explained him at least 3 times why gaming phones don't work.
I don't care about cpu's and such stuff. I'm only talking about his gaming phone obsession. Gaming phones, in his case and mine, might be the best things on earth. But for others, gaming phones will be useless. Imagine going to a mafia meeting with a green black shark. Come on
I got nothing against his gaming phone obsession, his excitement etc. But in many other comments he treats them like they're the future and there are no alternatives
shawman, 19 Sep 2020From CPU core perspective both of them are the same and both of them will be fabbed in Samsung... moreActually there are other things for efficiency. How the internal is designed. How the tasks are distributed to cpu clusters.
Andreidinutu, 19 Sep 2020I hope it will be weaker.
And what's the problem with heat? Uncomfy on your hands? Doubt... moreWhy are you comparing Laptop CPUs with smartphone SoC ?
Also you're comparing it wrong.
You're giving internal temp for Laptop CPU and external temp for Smartphone CPU.
I bet for heavy load SD SoC will heat 70+ degree internally.
shawman, 19 Sep 2020From CPU core perspective both of them are the same and both of them will be fabbed in Samsung... moreWell, two chip from the same lab but with different circuitry can have huge performance differences, even two ARM or two x86 with similar instruction set and similar clock speed can dramatically differ depending on how the architecture is implemented.
From CPU core perspective both of them are the same and both of them will be fabbed in Samsung "5nm" node. So CPU based loads should be similar. If Exynos is faster then its clocked higher. But we need to wait for other benchmarks.
For those who say it has never happened before does not know about history. There was a period when Snapdragon was crap. Samsung skipped SD810 and used Exynos globally for S6 series. Only the last 3 iterations Samsung fell behind both in architecture(M series CPU did not have the oomph compared to generic ARM cores). Now both of them are using off the shelf cores though Snapdragon could have better GPU and Modem also will be better on Snapdragon. I am hoping we hear less complaints from international Galaxy S21 owners.