Anonymous, 21 Sep 2020Free speech is not the same as hate speech and lies.Who gets to decide where the line is? You? Who gets to quantify what is "hate"? These days saying biological sex is real is considered hate speech
"Hate speech" is included in free speech.
The only exception would be threats/calls to violence, that's when it goes beyond mere speech as you threatening someone with violence
it's not about national security, it's about I want that bit piece of the pie
MATE 30 PRO, 21 Sep 2020Americans, you have in your hands in less than 2 months to remove Trump from the White House ...yes, he is truly heating up the world
leo sk, 21 Sep 2020The problem is that info collected by facebook, whatsapp etc are used for commercial purposes,... moreYour whole comment is BS.
Commercial purposes. LMAO. Even if the data is used for commercial purposes, they still have your data which they can use for other things. What political purposes does Tiktok and WeChat serve? Name me one. People in China don't even use Tiktok, they use a seperate app called Douyin. Plus what pro-CCP propaganda can they push to people outside of China? Show an ad about how great Xi Jinping is whenever you open Tiktok? If that's the case, I guess Tiktok have already turned millions of Americans into Communists.
Also, the situation with China and Google, America and Tiktok is different. China gave a CHOICE to Google to censor its search in accordance to the official law (whether the company likes it or not) or leave the country. Google WILLINGLY chose to left China. Trump literally tried to FORCE Tiktok to be sold to a US company, or get banned for PRIVACY reasons, without any other explaination, and Tiktok def did not choose to leave US.
Also the WeChat ban is Trump punching American companies in their face. Most Americans use apps like WhatsApp in their daily lives in America and rarely use WeChat (unless they have friends or relatives in China), but US companies that operates in China uses it. People in China will rather get an Android than an iPhone without WeChat (95% out of 74k+ surveyed), and China makes up close to 25% of Apple's iPhone sales. The ban is only going to hurt American companies and there is nothing to do with privacy at all.
TheLastOracle, 21 Sep 2020Must be a democrat judge. Need I say more. Nice One.
But this isn't the first time Trump's decision is overruled.
Anonymous, 21 Sep 2020All of those apps are banned in China. Which is why I don’t understand the faux outrage here.... moreI also dont mind the banning of apps that the US is doing since it makes sense do to what China is doing. What i say is bs is the banning of selling and buying to other chinese companies like huawei and zte due to "security concerns" which we all know is also connected to the app bans they've been doing.
If this judge is so concerned about free speech maybe they could stop Twitter, Facebook etc from de-platforming people who don't confirm to the prescribed Leftist view.
People having their accounts removed is a bigger attack on free speech than reducing the number of social media platforms
leo sk, 21 Sep 2020The problem is that info collected by facebook, whatsapp etc are used for commercial purposes,... moreThe problem with your argument is that there are about 100 times more misinformation, political propaganda and conspiracy theories on facebook, google and twitter. So why target WeChat and TikTok when Facebook, Google and Twitter pose far more risk to national security?
Anonymous, 21 Sep 2020All of those apps are banned in China. Which is why I don’t understand the faux outrage here.... moreThose apps dont respect chinese laws. First law, tech companies has to share information with the chinese government if national security is in danger.
L.O.R.D, 21 Sep 2020I don't use Facebook or Instagram either, they're boring and not fun as they used to... moreI bet you don't use WhatsApp, Gmail, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Mac, as well, you must ne some High Priest living on top of Mount Everest, live in a cave with zero technology, oh wait you post in gsmarena mean your data just been monitored by NSA, CIA & FBi....lol
AnonD-923722, 21 Sep 2020I don't agree at all. Wechat amd TikTok has no problems just like Instagram, Facebook, an... moreThe problem is that info collected by facebook, whatsapp etc are used for commercial purposes, but it is almost certain that data collected by chinese companies is used for political purpose and their apps are used push forward pro-ccp propoganda. Also there should be an international treaty of some sorts whereby if a nation blocks ofher social media networks, then its apps too should face some consequence. As of now, google, twitter etc are all banned in China. Democracies must not be fooled into thinking that it is just a matter of free speech, and even if they believe so, then it must be reciprocated by the country that holds the strings behind these social media apps
AnonD-923722, 21 Sep 2020Say that to Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp and more apps that collect data without you noticing... moreAll of those apps are banned in China. Which is why I don’t understand the faux outrage here. China already does the same thing that the US is trying to do. Except China does it to keep its people in the dark and under the government’s thumb.
AnonD-923722, 21 Sep 2020Say that to Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp and more apps that collect data without you noticing... moreI don't use Facebook or Instagram either, they're boring and not fun as they used to be, just full of ads
Hah everyone is biding their time and hoping people come to some kind of sense. Won't happen tho :D