SuuperBaka, 09 Oct 2020They don't make telephoto sensors for phones, and you can clearly see that's the wor... moreNo, Sony is derisively using Samsung sensor to cut costs because they're image sensors costs more to produce than buying from Samsung.
Rkunreal, 08 Oct 2020Why don't people buy Sony Xperia phones anymore?Because they lost the way few years back, looks like they are on a route to hitting the highway soon!!
Oppaii, 10 Oct 2020Weak attempt. Next!Weak attempt?
lmfao...
Listen clown, you're the one who had no clue of Omnivisions' existence and yet you're here talking about DXOMARK when it's not even mentioned in the article so go pick on someone who's at your level coz you're nowhere near mine
adios
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2020Sure they do, just like they trust you... NEXTWeak attempt. Next!
Oppaii, 09 Oct 2020People still trust DxOMark in 2020? >.> Sure they do, just like they trust you...
NEXT
Anonymous, 09 Oct 2020Ov48B - Xiaomi Mi10 Lite, Redmi 10X and 10X Pro. From some test I've seen they are bette... morePeople still trust DxOMark in 2020? >.>
Oppaii, 08 Oct 2020Barely hear this Omnivision, what phones does have this sensor?Ov48B - Xiaomi Mi10 Lite, Redmi 10X and 10X Pro. From some test I've seen they are better than Samsung's and on par with Sony.
Ov48C - Mi10 Ultra. The top camera in DXOMark rankings. Go and see how is performing.
Oppaii, 08 Oct 2020Barely hear this Omnivision, what phones does have this sensor?Apple used to use almost exclusively Omnivision sensors. Apple moved on to Sony sensors now, I believe. You can search Google "Iphone Omnivision"
SuuperBaka, 09 Oct 2020They don't make telephoto sensors for phones, and you can clearly see that's the wor... moreThis is Sony problem anyway. They have picked up the worst telephoto as well as front camera sensor then. Just have a good look at the latest iPhone 11 Pro, Galaxy Note 20 Ultra or Huawei P40 Pro telephoto and selfie photos - million times better that Xperia 1 II does.
Anonymous, 09 Oct 2020I didn't write light per area, I wrote light per time. The CM1 captures less light per ti... moreCameras give exactly what they have to.
Phones from samsung, apple and google give photos that look like edited by someone without any idea of what is doing. Even raw of these phones are heavily processed.
No jpeg of any cam gives you yellow faces, deep blacks, deep blue skies, purple night sky (night modes) , foreground brighter than reality nor make scene looks like plastic or wax.
Poor noise performance? RX100 can easily handle iso1600.
Phones are already garbage if iso pass 400.
BTW, there are cameras capable of muilti frame. Nobody uses because photos end up artificial.
SuuperBaka, 09 Oct 2020They don't make telephoto sensors for phones, and you can clearly see that's the wor... moreThey do.
Any sensor can be used for telephoto.
They just do not have one with same specs sold by samsung.
Sony has many 8MP 1/4" , but is using Samsung.
Some gossips say it is part of deal for oled.
Oppaii, 08 Oct 2020Barely hear this Omnivision, what phones does have this sensor?Many motorola, xiaomi mi 10 ultra and many chinese phones (periscope, macro and depth).
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2020Light per area is useless.
Overall area is much larger.
HM1/HMX are 72mm2, imx383 has 1... moreI didn't write light per area, I wrote light per time. The CM1 captures less light per time than the phones I have mentioned and it even doesn't have OIS. Its hardware would make phone cameras worse, not better.
The noise performance of a Rx100 is quite poor by the way. The first Rx100 has an old sensor and all Rx100 cameras can not combine multiple frames in a smart way. Some people simply look at specs, but they don't know what the specs really mean and when it comes to unedited wide angle jpgs a Rx100 (or full frame cameras) have no chance when compared with a 5 year old Google Nexus 5x in Google's HDR+ mode, apart from the resolution.
VectorR, 08 Oct 2020Meanwhile Sony puts cheap, inferior Samsung sensors on their own top tier $1200 smartphones. B... moreThey don't make telephoto sensors for phones, and you can clearly see that's the worst-performing sensor in the phone out of the 3
Meanwhile Sony puts cheap, inferior Samsung sensors on their own top tier $1200 smartphones. Bloody bastards!
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2020"Something like Panasonic CM1 could be easily done"
And it wouldn't make sense... moreLight per area is useless.
Overall area is much larger.
HM1/HMX are 72mm2, imx383 has 116mm2.
That is more than 60% larger.
Cameras like RX10, RX100 and ZV1 can wipe the floor with any phone.
Imx383 is 20MP 2.4 micron with DRAM inside ....
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2020MKBHD talks about this in his latest video
One point is that Sony itself doesn't seem ... moreFactories start making them only after the announcement.
To avoid leaks.
S21 will be announced in february, but be sure we will know everything about it before end of december.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2020But Sony also sells sensors to be used in cars, mediacal machines and security cameras. The ... moreSamsung LSI also sell its camera sensor for security camera (CCTV)...
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2020They can, but would be waste of money due the fact it would never sell as much as samsung or a... more"Something like Panasonic CM1 could be easily done"
And it wouldn't make sense at all as the CM1 hardware captures less light per time than phones like the Xiaomi Note 10, Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra, Lenovo Moto Edge+, BBK Oneplus 8 Pro or Huawei P40 Pro and doesn't even have OIS.
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