AnonD-909757, 01 Nov 2020What ?
First, I never said it is the most used feature, and it is NOT, second, I talk about P... moreall those who want it does have everything to loose?
You are overreacting again. Chill out a little.
You are against the front facing camera.
I'm against the idea of a phone without front facing camera.
Fair play buddy. Dont act like you are a victim or something.
AnonD-955101, 01 Nov 2020So for you one of the most used features on a phone is the most hated right. Great logic buddy... moreWhat ?
First, I never said it is the most used feature, and it is NOT, second, I talk about PUNCH HOLES, which, along with curved edge display may be the top 2 hated features of the whole history of mobile phones, and the two stupidest.
Except that no, it doesn't require pixels to be turned off, it only require them to be turned off for taking good quality pictures, privacy intrusion don't require quality, in fact it is often done with crappy quality in order to not have too easily determinable patterns in the hidden packets and to avoid too much bandwidth.
Even optical underdisplay FPS can be used as a camera actually :
No, I am talking how you have a specific use for each devices which all (except for the TV) are made to do all of those, and except for portability, the computer do better in all of them than any other.
First, it is NOT essential at all, second, you still don't understand the difference between a DEDICATED and CONSTANTLY THERE front facing camera, and having no way to use something as a front camera.
The Nubia Z20 and Asus Zenfone 7/7 Pro are perfect exemples of how you can have no front camera and still be able to do everything a phone with a front camera can, and better, as the Zenfone 7 and 7 Pro didn't beat every front camera in tests for no reasons.
Maybe because you keep insisting on that, like I said, my goal is to preach different, alternative tech for having variety, because that you like it or not, there are MANY peoples who don't want front facing camera (or many other things), their is no reasons to not make such device, there is a market for that and there have been successful devices that were way more niche, but you just constantly bash the idea, which have a negative effect causing it to be less likely to one day appear.
You have NOTHING to loose if some new phones without front camera were to appear, and nothing to win if none were produced, yet you fight against the idea, meanwhile all those who want it does have everything to loose just because you can't let be alone an idea that have NOTHING to do with you.
AnonD-909757, 01 Nov 2020Many peoples don't and will never, it isn't one of the top most hated "feature&... moreAnd it is better if you stop calling all of us the peopoles.
This is not an ethnical or racial conversation.
It is a little impolite if you haven't noticed already.
AnonD-909757, 01 Nov 2020Many peoples don't and will never, it isn't one of the top most hated "feature&... moreSo for you one of the most used features on a phone is the most hated right. Great logic buddy.
For people like you under display camera is one of the most secure solutions and less expensive compared tp the pop up mechanism when it reaches mass production, in order to be activated the pixels must be turned off so you can always see if some app is trying to activate the camera in the background.
If you compare a phone device to a Swiss knife that the ffc is one of the most essential features you like it or not.
Darn it, for once I've tried to make a constructive discussion with you, but you've taken the conversation always to the extreme.
AnonD-955101, 01 Nov 2020No no no, slow down buddy.
Are you carrying a pc, tv😂 or tablet wherever you go?
are y... moreActually, based on the size of modern smartphones, it is like carrying a tablet around, which is why smaller phone are still widely popular.
I do carry it around, and yet almost never use the front camera, and when I do, I don't do anything the main camera couldn't do way better thanks to its superior quality.
You don't understand the difference between "no permanently and dedicated front camera" and "no possibility to use the main camera as front camera", those are hugely different.
There is not a single thing a front camera is better for on a smartphone than anything else, from real camera, tablets, webcams and so on.
A phone without front camera is like a truck without a rear view mirror, it is basically useless and the side view mirror are way better at the job anyway.
A display with a hole is like putting a physical speed gauge right in the middle of your windshield, those on the dashboard or the transparent HUD projected version do a better job without being a disturbance.
Like a normal person, I use my computer for work, browsing internet, gaming, multimedia, any art related things the rare times I do, and communicating.
And I use my phone as a communication device (that never required me to use the front camera for that) which is also able to read multimedia content and connect to social networks, take pictures and browse internet when I am away from my computer.
If you want to have multiple Swiss Army Knives and use each one for only a single of its tools, don't blame it on other peoples.
Joe , 31 Oct 2020You just get used to it, man. At least until the under-display selfie camera technology has ma... moreMany peoples don't and will never, it isn't one of the top most hated "feature" of all time on smartphones of no reason.
Underdisplay camera isn't the solution, they cause quality degradation, they are expensive, the concept is quite stupid, and most importantly, they are a privacy nightmare.
Pop up camera, slider phones, even the good old bezel, or any solution without dedicated front camera like flip camera, second display on the back etc, are all way better solution that are simple and work well.
AnonD-909757, 31 Oct 2020*It's a little out of place and to big but it is a freaking phone, a communication device... moreNo no no, slow down buddy.
Are you carrying a pc, tv😂 or tablet wherever you go?
are you carrying a phone wherever you go? Travelling, hiking, concerts, shopping and so on?
out of all those devices the front facing camera is more essential on a phone.
A phone without front facing camera is like a truck without headlights.
I use my pc for work, my tv for multimedia, my tablet for digital art and my phone as a communication devide.
Its simple as that.
AnonD-909757, 31 Oct 2020How can anyone with a working brain be able to not dislike a hole in the display ? HOW !?You just get used to it, man. At least until the under-display selfie camera technology has matured enough.
Good to see that it will have micro SD support. Hopefully a headphone jack too
AnonD-955101, 31 Oct 2020It's a little out of place and to big but it is a freaking phone, a communication device.... more*It's a little out of place and to big but it is a freaking phone, a communication device.*
No, THIS is a "communication device" :
And even there, it already did way more than just communicating.
It isn't just "a little" out of place, it is literally in the way of the STATUS BAR, which is probably the most important part of your phone OS's User Interface, require a lot of space for its purpose, and is already quite limited in how many informations it can display.
*It is not a multimedia device or working mashine.*
The word "Smart" in "Smartphone" isn't to sound cool, it is because those are small computer and they have heavy emphasis on multimedia, which is why they have so big resolution display in the first place.
*There are PCs, TVs and tablets for that purpose.*
Well in that case, lets remove the useless front camera, you don't need it for communicating, and if you want to do video call, as you said, there are PCs, TVs and tablets for that purpose.
And it still doesn't justify butchering a display, it would be like making modern trucks without power steering "because those aren't made for fun or confort, they are made for working".
AnonD-909757, 31 Oct 2020How can anyone with a working brain be able to not dislike a hole in the display ? HOW !?It's a little out of place and to big but it is a freaking phone, a communication device.
It is not a multimedia device or working mashine.
There are PCs, TVs and tablets for that purpose.
IpsDisplay, 31 Oct 2020Dimensity is the midrange Chipset that's really worthwhile The Snapdragon 7 series a... moreYou will forget about stability and durability if you go for MediaTek. Don't do that please.
Wow that punch hole oh my on ugly
I have motorola Moto G 5G Plus
And the new lite version support 5G mmWave
Thats an upgrade
How can anyone with a working brain be able to not dislike a hole in the display ? HOW !?
The source mentions 2MP depth camera not macro and hopefully with this telephoto on budget phone becomes a trend even if it's 2x
And then that telephoto will have 2,6x optical zoom... That alleged budget price must be invisible because it is not mentioned anywhere. From Lenovorola... Maybe a "Velvet" price that they call budget, lol.
Dimensity is the midrange Chipset that's really worthwhile
The Snapdragon 7 series are a joke in comparison
And by the time Qualcomm gives us an answer the the dimensity 820 there will be better mediatek midrangers available
If price is around 23k, then it will compete samsung m51.