SupaSiblings, 16 Dec 20202. Optimizations, optimizations are TOTALLY different, ARM usually gets optimized alot more th... more"optimizations" "fake" "true it argument" "unfair"
Lololol. Just give those power figures and be done with it. We were comparing x86 vs arm anyway, both have their advantages. We are looking at the end result here, which is clearly shown in the form of cinebench scores. Why does it matter if its optimized more for arm. Lol its even the first cinebench version to support m1. I agree with whatever other things you said, like app compatibilty and stuff. Now just give me what i asked for, if you can even find it, since the results i gave are "fake" lol.
SupaSiblings, 16 Dec 20202. Optimizations, optimizations are TOTALLY different, ARM usually gets optimized alot more th... moreYes i agree, but we were talking about efficiency here right? If you didnt care, why did you go through all these back and forth? And now that you cant find any power figures for those 10k scores, you bring up common knowledge? What else are you gonna bring up next? That the sun rises in the east?
Mediatek sux, 15 Dec 2020Haha, you cant find the power figures, so you bring all those other stuff up. poof indeed. ... moreBecause of the comment you just replied to, different architecture optimization e.t.c
Mediatek sux, 15 Dec 2020Haha, you cant find the power figures, so you bring all those other stuff up. poof indeed. ... more2. Optimizations, optimizations are TOTALLY different, ARM usually gets optimized alot more then X86 due to less CPUs, and similarity between the CPUs, You cant find proof of M1 being better than 4800u, Poof indeed, Because MacOS is closed source, Apple gets to optimize everything for themselves, unlike others which need devs to optimize, give me a true IT argument please,
SupaSiblings, 15 Dec 2020I've had enough, 1. x86 is never comparable to ARM due to different optimizations, instru... moreHaha, you cant find the power figures, so you bring all those other stuff up. poof indeed.
No one is denying the advantages of x86, did you even read my last comment. The end result of the cinebench render is the same no matter the platform, and the m1 was pretty efficent with it. After all these back and forth with power numbers and scores, you bring up other stuff. Emulation is the only choice for m1 as long as theres no app wrtitten for it, but for those apps that already exist like cinebench, geekbench, gfxbench, etc why would it be unfair?
Mediatek sux, 14 Dec 2020Lol what do you mean 'admit it'. You still havent provided the power figures for tho... moreI've had enough, 1. x86 is never comparable to ARM due to different optimizations, instruction sets, different types of CPUs, the only fair comparison is ARM emulating x86, aka m1 trying to run x86 versions of apps, POOOOOF! Score lowers! Single core on r23 worse then 4800u and multi on r23 worse then 1185g7! Geekbench is no longer equal to 5950x! Graphics benchmarks also lower! If you want i can give you more, if you want, sure.
SupaSiblings, 14 Dec 2020https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/k01zam/how_does_the_new_apple_macbook_m1_chip_com... moreLol what do you mean 'admit it'. You still havent provided the power figures for those 10k scores. Everyone knows program compatibility is better on amd and mac has no games, amd can improve more with 5nm etc. What was the point of this link even.
Im not like you, i wont just call all those comments in there 'fake'.
Mediatek sux, 13 Dec 2020Look, im not telling you that theres no way 4800u is able to achieve 10k scores. Im asking you... morehttps://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/k01zam/how_does_the_new_apple_macbook_m1_chip_compare_to/ Look, everyone says AMD 4800u is better, just admit it,
SupaSiblings, 13 Dec 2020https://www.quora.com/Is-Apples-M1-chip-better-than-AMD-Ryzen-7-4800Look, im not telling you that theres no way 4800u is able to achieve 10k scores. Im asking you to provide cpu package power figures for them.
SupaSiblings, 13 Dec 2020BTW, if wall from Linus takes 32w, then obviously the M1 needs 32w. Common sense.Wall power measured is for the total device, not just the cpu. If you take that from a plugged in laptop it would be 60w or whatever the charger is rated for.
Even common sense requires some sense.( Or knowledge or whatever).
Mediatek sux, 12 Dec 2020Lol not again. I'm asking for cpu package power numbers, not the advertised tdp. Heres an... morehttps://www.quora.com/Is-Apples-M1-chip-better-than-AMD-Ryzen-7-4800
Mediatek sux, 12 Dec 2020Lol not again. I'm asking for cpu package power numbers, not the advertised tdp. Heres an... moreBTW, if wall from Linus takes 32w, then obviously the M1 needs 32w. Common sense.
SupaSiblings, 11 Dec 2020https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-amd_ryzen_7_4800u-1142Lol not again. I'm asking for cpu package power numbers, not the advertised tdp. Heres another guy posting with actual power numbers
Not the op in the link, but further down - "I'm getting 1227 / 9649 on my 4800U S540-13
Stock Lenovo Extreme Performance mode. Coretemp shows constant 37.4W usage"
Go ahead and call all these sources fake. Whatever i dont even care anymore. You dont seem to understand the difference between advertised tdp and actual power usage.
Mediatek sux, 08 Dec 2020Theres atleast two people in there saying it gives 9 and 9.2k. why dont you give me the non fa... morehttps://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-amd_ryzen_7_4800u-1142
SupaSiblings, 10 Dec 2020My link.Looking at the sources of your link (if its the notebookcheck one), i got one score of 4750u with wattage and multi score of 8359.
10 Minute Run - Multi Core
- 2,9 GHz All Core
- CPU Package Power: 25W
10 Minute Run - Single Core:
- 4,2 GHz Single Core
- CPU Package Power: 10W
SupaSiblings, 10 Dec 2020My link.https://www.notebookcheck.net/These-Apple-M1-Cinebench-R23-scores-are-quite-impressive-for-a-10-W-processor.504380.0.html
Is that it? Where is wattage shown in those tests?
SupaSiblings, 10 Dec 2020My link.Which link? Why couldnt you just post it with your comment?
SupaSiblings, 08 Dec 2020Thats fake, if you look anywhere else, a 25w amd gets 10000Theres atleast two people in there saying it gives 9 and 9.2k. why dont you give me the non fake 18w score? I looked and couldnt find. Now if i do find anything you will just call it 'fake'. So you give the 'true' score along with wattage.