Dimensity 800U-powered phones coming to in India in January Comments
- Anonymous
- 08B
SShreyas, 12 Dec 2020The device was HTC One M9+, itwas one of the very first dual camera smartphones, the biggest g... moreYou can't have a propre conclusion with HTC only one device.
The problem is HTC makes wrong choice (it's often the case with HTC!) : QHD screen with X10, it's a big mistake.
So I'm not very surprised in fact. You must be right on this one.
Your mistake was to choose a device with both X10 And QHD!
X10 runs fine on Xperia M5 for exemple.
Even mt6752 with A53 only clocked up to 1.7ghz runs fine on Xperia C4 and litteraly destroys Snapdragon 615 (Lenovo Vibe if I remember)
And you spit on Cortex A53? Are you serious? Qualcomm still using Cortex A53!
For your information, all Kryo 2xx Silver are Cortex A53. On Snapdragon 636, 660, 835, 632...or even on newer 665 or 662...it's old big.LITTLE.
For your full information, name change with ram's pipeline
Kryo 250 on 632 : lpddr3
Kryo 260 on 636/660/662/665 : 2x16bits lpddr4x
Kryo 280 on 835 : 4x16bits lpddr4x
Naming is only...marketing, it's Cortex.
In fact, the only real custom Kryo cores were used on...Snapdragon 820, all the others are mostly copied/pasted Cortex. (Kryo 3xx are A75+A55, Kryo 4xx are A76+A55, Kryo 5xx are A77+A55, new DynamIQ architecture instead of big.LITTLE)
On the other side, after P60 and P70, Mediatek no longer use big.LITTLE but DynamIQ since Helio P65...665 or 662 are old stuff when their competitors (G70/80) are more modern.
DynamIQ needn't cluster migration when system switch between LITTLE and big cores.
And please tell me the names of the devices with P60 and Snapdragon 636 you were talking about? I seriously doubt...it's nearly impossible, worst process, worst frequency, worst memory bandwidth on 636. P60 nearly reachs 660 level (GPU is maybe a little weaker but not that much)
- SShreyas
- KAR
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2020Try some for real instead!
You don't even name devices!The device was HTC One M9+, itwas one of the very first dual camera smartphones, the biggest gimmick I fell for.
And it is a simple understanding that if I am talking of a CPU, then definitely I'll refrain myself from referring any other manufacturer/product, unless I am specifically asked about it.
- Anonymous
- 08B
SShreyas, 12 Dec 2020Well, the time when X10 was launched, A53 WAS a big deal. That's the same CPU which power... moreTry some for real instead!
You don't even name devices!
- SShreyas
- KAR
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2020X10 isn't a real flagship as it only uses Cortex A53, not any big core...
Before Dimensi... moreWell, the time when X10 was launched, A53 WAS a big deal. That's the same CPU which powered Qualcomm's then flagship, 810 (A57 being the other).
And the real world experience (at least, mine) of MediaTek has anyways forced to refrain from purchasing it. I have already wasted my INR 40k on it. I would have got a OnePlus 8 for the same money in 2020, and this is before adjusting inflation.
No more MediaTeks for me.
- Anonymous
- 08B
SShreyas, 11 Dec 2020Huh.
I have used "flagship" chipset of MediaTek, the Helio X10. My phone literally... moreX10 isn't a real flagship as it only uses Cortex A53, not any big core...
Before Dimensity 1000, Mediatek released only 2 flagship : mt6595 and Helio X30
You can't critisize Mediatek when at same time Qualcomm's released :
- Snapdragon 410 : makes Cortex A53 slower than Cortex A7
- 615 : makes octacore slower than quadcore...you only have to use mt6752 to compare, very funny.
- 808/810 with heavy throttling issues as Qualcom used Cortex A57 for benchmarks when Mediatek and Kirin didn't and refused to sell failling chips to consumers!
And about P60, I use it on Oppo A3 during a year on a half, as fast as my sister's Mi A2 with SD660
Always the same ideas about sources : you've got Google search? in a few seconds you can find tons of sources...nearly all from Oppo's, Realme's, Redmi's, Nokia's, Sony's available in western countries
We can speak about hidden problems of more recent Qualcomm's chip :
- no 5g carrier aggregation on Snapdragon 865. You will spend years waiting for a descent mmwave coverage. During that time even Dimensity 700 will get a faster 5g!
- lack of AV1 support on Snapdragon 888, Qualcomm want you to pay more for your streaming!
- IpsDisplay
- ri0
SShreyas, 11 Dec 2020Huh.
I have used "flagship" chipset of MediaTek, the Helio X10. My phone literally... moreBingo that explains everything..
Well as long as your happy
- SShreyas
- U{f
IpsDisplay, 10 Dec 2020Explain Nokia phones running on mediatek like the Nokia 1 etc running 2 years plus Huh.
I have used "flagship" chipset of MediaTek, the Helio X10. My phone literally used to respond after 15 minutes. And that was my first and last MediaTek of my life. Can't trust that sh**hole brand again.
I purchased a "lower" quality, but far more reliable Snapdragon 636 over P60, that too, after paying almost 6,000 (USD 80) bucks extra. And I am proud of my choice for my cousin is having problems with his P60 powered device.
- IpsDisplay
- iV%
SShreyas, 10 Dec 2020Do you even have any idea what it takes to develop ROM for a phone equipped with a chipset who... moreExplain Nokia phones running on mediatek like the Nokia 1 etc running 2 years plus
- Duryodhan
- rKb
4G arrived a few years ago and now 5G.. Yeah these MNCs are greedy. Bring new technology and milk money.. For example, if a user doesn't use Internet and only makes and recieves calls, in that case 2G is more than enough for him. Why would he need 4G or 5G to make calls only. 4G signals emit a lot of radiation and 5G will emit even more radiation it is already proven also as the distance increases, the signal deteriorates with 5G. Trust me, I will use only 2G and 4G for as long as it is available. I don't want any sane person to get 5G. This is new world order driven by Covid and 5G. Try to understand.
- Tahir
- uZa
Nice like it...
- SShreyas
- vGc
IpsDisplay, 10 Dec 2020Very few have that knowledge because less than 1% of people care about that
If mediatek doe... moreDo you even have any idea what it takes to develop ROM for a phone equipped with a chipset whose sources aren't revealed?
Note 8 Pro was an immensely popular device, though, most of MediaTek's devices do not have any considerable amount of support from devs. And this is in stark contrast to Snapdragon.
Anyways, I'd anyday prefer a Snapdragon over MediaTek for most of the MediaTek's chipset are too unreliable. They simply cease to perform after 2-3 years and all you have is touch-one-and-wait-forever sort of experience
- IpsDisplay
- iV%
SShreyas, 10 Dec 2020Well, GCam performs exponentially better on SnapDragons compared to MediaTeks.
Most importan... moreVery few have that knowledge because less than 1% of people care about that
If mediatek doesn't release sources why is the redmi note 8 Pro so greatly supported by developers??
Popularity and the oem is far more important than snapdragon vs mediatek
Try and get good Support for a vivo with snapdragon good l
- SShreyas
- vGc
IpsDisplay, 10 Dec 2020Can you believe ppl think the 750G is the better chipset?
All because the "Pro" m... moreWell, GCam performs exponentially better on SnapDragons compared to MediaTeks.
Most importantly, MediaTek never disclose its sources. So, for a developer and all those people who can't afford or don't want to buy a new one every two years, won't go for it. (Though, very few people have that knowledge)
- IcyJay30
- fC$
AnonD-964130, 10 Dec 2020He s talking of mediatek powered phones which are all chinese now if you see the dimensity pow... moreHe thought mediatek is a chinese company... and mediatek is present in entry level samsung, lg, nokia phones too...
- Annyms
- v}Q
Viper, 10 Dec 2020800U is a great midrange processor.750g is also good have great power and gpu is also great bu... moreThis will diversify the product portfolio in India. Currently the SOC option for mid range is pretty limited. There is only SD 720/730/765 and some 855. Samsung has half a dozen Exynos 9611 devices.
- AnonD-964130
- Dkx
IcyJay30, 10 Dec 2020Mr genius... mediatek is from taiwan and tencent is from china.. do you know the difference? h... moreHe s talking of mediatek powered phones which are all chinese now if you see the dimensity powered phones
- AnonD-836132
- X$i
Sheet poor quality rebranded Micromax phones coming our way.
- Viper
- U{$
IpsDisplay, 10 Dec 2020Can you believe ppl think the 750G is the better chipset?
All because the "Pro" m... more800U is a great midrange processor.750g is also good have great power and gpu is also great but as u said being having a history of overheating mediatek did a great job with the midrange dimensity series.Good for the consumers if exynos and meditek performs well;monopoly is never good
- OwnFix3
- pk7
IpsDisplay, 10 Dec 2020Can you believe ppl think the 750G is the better chipset? All because the "Pro" m... morePremium for the Snapdragon brand value.
- IpsDisplay
- ri0
Can you believe ppl think the 750G is the better chipset?
All because the "Pro" model of the redmi note 9 5g/ xiaomi 10i
Im sounding like a fan boy at this point but I just can't get over the fact that the 800U is leagues/generation ahead of the 750G interms of thermals/heating
I'm talking 6 degrees cooler especially when you think of mediateks reputation of overheating, the gpu is stronger too
Cpu is better on 750g though but thermal control should be praised seriously
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