SShreyas, 09 Jan 2021Look, the problem with HMD is, they don't target correct audience. Most of us buy mid-ran... morethen the budget would be increased to bud. and you know quality ain't cheap to make. like I said, they played it slowly and carefully. they need to play the right card which benefits them and the people who've bought it.
Ilham163, 07 Jan 2021first part I can say that it's true. of all brands have a positive side. but remember Nok... moreLook, the problem with HMD is, they don't target correct audience. Most of us buy mid-range smartphones. And after 2018, the only 6.2 and 7.2 have been released as mid-rangers, and 7.2 literally shared 7 Plus' SoC while 6.2 had same SoC as 2017's 6.1 Plus
Yes, 5.3 and 5.4 are there. But again, they come in lower mid-range category.
The flagship they launched was 9 PureView, which failed miserably with extremely buggy app, worst image processing speed, and not-so-useful camera setup. Not to forget the year old SoC it was equipped with.
And they literally released Nokia 3.2 and 4.2 with SD429 and SD439. I mean, there is practically no differences between the two. Also, the 1-series and the newer C-series cater the same audience. And 5 and 6 series are also similar to a huge extent. Then, 7 and 8 are also useless.
Basically, they lack funds. Still they aren't delivering flagships which will bring in more money than these budget phones combined. Similar is the situation with mid-ranger.
And with entry level, they are doing what Chinese OEMs are doing with mid-range, i.e, flooding
IMO, discontinuing either of 1 or C series, 3 or 4 series, 5 or 6 series, 7 or 8 series won't decrease its market share and would help save then more to invest in better quality parts.
SShreyas, 04 Jan 2021But at least every brand has a "positive" side too. As you said, Chinese are bang fo... morefirst part I can say that it's true. of all brands have a positive side. but remember Nokia was legit losing when Apple took over. then got bought by Microsoft. they released some great devices but it's dead bc no one buys it. then got bought again by HMD a small company that trying to revive the Nokia name. luckily those comebacks make Nokia feel exists again. I do agree HMD makes some problem that doesn't suit for the phone. but at least they make some on Par for phones. (except luxury brands). and they do not fail to deliver some quality phones tbh, unlike Microsoft (they also build quality phones). and HMD gets some achievement even tho is a small company. they get 2 years in 1st for security patches, 1st on most trusted phone (20 phones) which included software, performance, durability. and become the holder of 5G replacing Huawei in networks. I believe HMD does a pleasant job. they can improve slowly step by step. they're trying their best. just like every other brand. they have their own road to build. to achieve different.
and about no existence of android 11 in phones, I know android 11 exists but 10 is still good right? patience my dude, they will arrive. in this existence, some people are still stuck with older android and never experienced newer android b4. but soon, I believe they will taste it.
Carol, 02 Jan 2021First of all, i am not your buddy. Second, trolling is a thing this days. Almost all members o... moreIf not everybody, even then about 30-40% (my estimates) of the users are facing similar issues. And that is a fairly CONSIDERABLE population.
Ilham163, 02 Jan 2021what I want to know is from your brother perspective. not others. yeah, I saw some of their co... moreBut at least every brand has a "positive" side too. As you said, Chinese are bang for bucks, riddled with heavy UI, Apple has most stable and fluid OS, Samsung and Sony have great cameras. Just tell me a similar "positive" aspect of HMD (that's not Nokia, anyways).
However, the problem with them are way too much. The only positive aspect of Nokia was regular, very regular updates. But again, those updates never addressed bugs. They were only security patches. And they are losing the game in that "regular updates" department recently with no phones currently on Android 11.
SShreyas, 01 Jan 2021Just head towards comment section of Nokia 6.1 Plus. You will find many "rough" user... morewhat I want to know is from your brother perspective. not others. yeah, I saw some of their comment got bad reviews and some others got good reviews. even with bad reviews, I found some of them happy again after being fixed again. just like I said, it's about treating ur phone like a thing u love or used it like a condom. Nokia still a good phone to use. not saying Nokia the best like their prime, but I still believe they still have their touch for build. and I'm not an idiot to say that. while ur brother using an MI9 as you said for 5 years, I can assure you that he is a good user. and if you mad just because you wasted on Nokias, why not find happiness instead of hate? yeah, I wasted half of thousand dollars for 2 phones Xiaomi's that for me is suck dicks. but I only say to them that they good on performance, cheap, but also sucks on durability and software which I don't mad at it. Infinix also sucks even worse IMO. until I don't trust most of Chinese Phones anymore.
I admit that all phone brands great, but everyone has their weak point. I don't judge you to hate Nokia because idk how long you will hate it. but appreciate them. don't be mad just because ur taste doesn't exist in there. everyone has their taste in likes and everyone should respect the opinion. find what you like bud. don't spread hate there are many brands that exist, maybe suit ur taste. if I going, to be honest, what the minus for Nokia is the price. but mostly I appreciate them for their decent builds and design. nobody is PERFECT, same as other brands. I'm just amazed by all brands creativity and hard work to build.
SShreyas, 31 Dec 2020That "crappy" device is Nokia itself, buddy. The cheap, ultra cheap eMMC 5.1 on a €6... moreFirst of all, i am not your buddy. Second, trolling is a thing this days. Almost all members of my family owe nokia and none has problems, go figure. Yet comes nobody and goes bash mode. Just because some people have problems (and one does not have to search deep to find problems in every device from samsung to apple, excluding chinaware as they are a problem wihin them selves), does not mean hmd as a brand is crapp. If you had a problem, tough i highly doubt you owe a nokia device, it does not mean everybody has it, so get over it, you ain't the only one in existance.
Ilham163, 01 Jan 2021and btw how long ur brother uses 6.1 plus? and when he got his first charging problem? is he a... moreJust head towards comment section of Nokia 6.1 Plus. You will find many "rough" users over there, who have got their ports changed even more than thrice but still the problem persists. Similarly, many more hard core gamers will be there who'd tell you that phone restarts while surfing the internet on Chrome with no background app deliberately opened. For camera app, check the Nokia forums regarding the same
As far as my brother is concerned, he is a guy who has managed to use his M9+ from 2015 till date without any problem. So, I don't think the problem lies his handling of the device.
Now for your question as to why I am mad. I have WASTED my money on a Nokia which has serious design issues, apart from insane pricing policy, cheap hardware and worst software experience.
SShreyas, 31 Dec 2020No problem? There has not been a single Nokia phone that didn't had issues. My brother... moreand btw how long ur brother uses 6.1 plus? and when he got his first charging problem? is he a rough user? who may be roughly unplug the charging port? bc I use moto and it has a charging problem, luckily I only changed it once, but it's doesn't work with the original charger. have to change another charging brand to make it work. and it's slow as hell but I don't mind it. and about restarting phones, is your brother a heavy gamer? bc heavy apps cost lag and shit. while my dad has many apps but not so much heavy except his work file and images (bc I always borrow his phone for my need). and also about flash and camera, really? my dad legit always use his phone to take the picture for culinary business with my mom. and the minus is only battery. bc its 3500 mah so it's small and rather have to charge sometimes twice. any other than that, NO.
so what the problem with every phone? the person who cares like a loving a pet or using it like a condom. im not mad btw, so we can chill.
SShreyas, 31 Dec 2020No problem? There has not been a single Nokia phone that didn't had issues. My brother... morewhat make's you so mad bro? I'm here telling the truth from a legit one-year experience. ofc, not every Nokias phone was good enough to satisfy you or everyone, but they do deliver some good phones, or at least. and also I'm not a really fanboy like fanboying shit, but I still admire Nokia is good even tho their prime has passed. don't trust my review or either my opinion? fine, I don't mind
Carol, 30 Dec 2020They are not overpriced. There are some crappy devices tough that come cheap and makes it look... moreThat "crappy" device is Nokia itself, buddy. The cheap, ultra cheap eMMC 5.1 on a €600 phone, faulty charging ports on midrange, crap camera in every phone are the sole features of HMD Global.
Ilham163, 31 Dec 2020haha, Mi phones sucks too bud. I'm one of the users before. so don't say Nokias suck... moreNo problem? There has not been a single Nokia phone that didn't had issues. My brother's 6.1 Plus has got its port changed THRICE, restarts automatically at least 3-4 times a day, is unable to use flash from the Nokia's camera app while no third party is able to capture photos.
The "best" part? Nokia doesn't even allow bootloader unlocking. For third party, I have to spend some amount.
Don't say "I have no issues" and all. Learn to criticize the wrong and stop being a fanboy.
idk if the ppl being smartass for complaining this phone is going to be suck, the one who completely use it once and then doesn't trust it anymore. it's not even announced it officially swear toxic in these ppl. don't remind the bad one, find the good one. you think the next upgrade will worsen? no, and yes but they try to make it good as possible like every brand does. unlike these ppl who complain like even can make a phone
Daks023, 29 Dec 2020Every Mi phone has 3 years of updates when it comes to Android version and even more years whe... morehaha, Mi phones sucks too bud. I'm one of the users before. so don't say Nokias sucks ass if you didn't try it. my dad and my mom own Nokia 6.1 plus and 2.3 and its been a year they use it and don't get any kind of problem
I will most probably jump on this one, i freaqing like the design.
DPL1991, 30 Dec 2020 I like the design of the back !!!! the only problem with NOKIA is their overpriced price, o... moreThey are not overpriced. There are some crappy devices tough that come cheap and makes it look like Nokia is overpriced.
Mobilemaster, 29 Dec 2020Bring us the flagship Nokia!Bring us the flagship Nokia!
Again they dont remove the bessel below..
I like the design of the back !!!!
the only problem with NOKIA is their overpriced price, otherwise they are very reliable .... what I have worked at least (8,5.3,7plus)
They won't stop doing bad design elements. They won't give new features.
Instead they will give bottom bezel which serves no purpose. They will give 2 extra cameras one depth sensor and one macro which is again just waste of money. They will not give latest processors if not in all phones. They won't stop asking you premium price for these mediocre features.
At least they can move that bottom bezel to top and place the FF camera inside it to make the display look clean.