Google removes Astrophotography support from Pixel 5 and Pixel 4a 5G's ultra wide camera Comments
- dcmille290
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I could have sworn the other night while shooting photos of the Milky Way, the camera switched from Night Site to Astralphotography not Astrophotography. Maybe it was just me.?
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Samath N8 808 owner, 02 Jan 2021Hmm.. Right about EIS being used in videos. I'm not so sure about EIS use in images, neve... more? As I said I already took the hardware difference into account. The ultra wide angle camera captures more(!) light per frame than the Pixel 3a due to the much longer exposure time, unless the lens suffers from a lot of vignetting.
Android Authority, 02 Jan 2021Astrophotography is done with the help of tripod irrespective of whether one is using smartpho... moreI saw the entire video, and you're right. It makes the whole experience "easier" as you said... but that's certainly not 'better', and certainly not in terms of quality.
Most gcam advantages mentioned can apply to DSLR as well.
Firstly, you can still have variable shutter speed in DSLR as per your button press. Secondly, while you can stop after the lightning in a DSLR, the resultant pic can be edited in RAW, with a wide dynamic range to achieve a good exposure.
Multiimage stacking can also happen on PC.
But yes, I will agree with what you said- its way easier on a cellphone.
AnonD-973296, 02 Jan 2021so that makes an object in the image look like jello?Ya, the object jellos around. But sorry, not in image, in video.
It stretches around the video, like a jello even when video itself looks stationery... EIS itself is a video concept I guess.
Let me admit, my post's point no. 1 of using EIS in photos... could be most certainly wrong.
Samath N8 808 owner, 02 Jan 2021See, none of the present OIS systems are as good to ensure reasonably slow shutter speeds need... moreAstrophotography is done with the help of tripod irrespective of whether one is using smartphone or Dslr/mirrorless.
Big sensor is not a requirement as there is enough exposure time.
Smartphones have the trick of computational photography up their sleeves which makes the whole experience easier than a Dslr/mirrorless cameras.
https://youtu.be/Tejd4NfrcuU
- AnonD-973296
- GYi
Samath N8 808 owner, 02 Jan 2021While using Electronic image stabilisation, the image or video is made stable by capturing a s... moreso that makes an object in the image look like jello?
Anonymous, 31 Dec 20201. Actually EIS is related to video and on a tripod you don't need OIS anyway. But of cou... moreHmm.. Right about EIS being used in videos. I'm not so sure about EIS use in images, never heard of it, multiimage stacking does happen though.
Right about analogue gain as well.
Can't compare sensors directly on their shutter speeds though, aperture differs, then of course, images created may be different in their approach towards exposure, maybe one is +4 and other is +0.7, who can say. And of course, ISO.
AnonD-973296, 30 Dec 2020Jello effect?? what is that?While using Electronic image stabilisation, the image or video is made stable by capturing a smaller rectangle within the available frame... and then 'moving this rectangle' to negate camera shake...
Now the thing is, in wide angle cameras, the corners are 'spread away' compared to the center of the frame.
So, when EIS is used, image is stabilised, but a jello effect happens...
Android Authority, 30 Dec 2020Actually astrophotography is done much easier on something like the Pixel compared to DSLR. Th... moreSee, none of the present OIS systems are as good to ensure reasonably slow shutter speeds needed for this sky mode. Mobile phone results, you can see easily by comparing with DSLR on Google search.
You need big pixels to have better quality, no doubt.
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Halisuxx, 02 Jan 2021And other lies you can tell yourself.
Yes, astrophotography is way better than night mode, bu... moreBurn in hell brandboy.
ToyPhone camera will never surpass Pixel let alone 2020 Android flagships with big boy sensors.
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- BRy
Android--Master, 30 Dec 2020Astrophotography from Google is much better than any long exposure trash from Apple's Ult... moreAnd other lies you can tell yourself.
Yes, astrophotography is way better than night mode, but night mode shows a live preview and captures in 10s, not 10 minutes.
Also, the pixel 5 consistently outshines the iPhone 12 lineup in every category? lmao
- Stevoid
- sfT
HUAWEI P30 Pro (fat Google) more than one year old and current P40 Pro (minus Google Services) run circles around any phone on SW quality astrophotography thanks to their unique partnership with Leica. We Canadians can buy both and subscribe to wireless services here.
Speaking of SW photography the P40 Pro, although several degrees narrower, is unquestionably the sharpest and least distorted edge-to-edge camera phone than any brand.
- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 31 Dec 2020You are aware that a Xiaomi Note 10 captures about as much light per time as a Canon Aps-c cam... moreYes you are right. Xiaomi phone did that with gcam.
It was super convenient with computational photography on smartphone.
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Anonymous, 31 Dec 2020You are aware that a Xiaomi Note 10 captures about as much light per time as a Canon Aps-c cam... moreI want to add that some people have taken photos of a galaxy with a full frame camera and an exposure time of several days!!
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YUKI93, 30 Dec 2020True about leaving astrophotography to DSLR. Current smartphone sensors aren't just big e... moreYou are aware that a Xiaomi Note 10 captures about as much light per time as a Canon Aps-c camera + wide angle kit lens?
The Xiaomi Note 10 captures three times as much light per time as the latest Pixel phones. So a Pixel phone with the camera hardware of a Xiaomi Note 10 or Xiaomi 10 Ultra would take better 4 minute astro photos. Theoretically the quality could be even better, if the astro mode would take 15 minutes.
Yes, astrophotography always takes time, even when you use a large camera. Then you still have to capture a long exposure or combine dozens of exposures for the best results.
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Samath N8 808 owner, 30 Dec 2020Looking at Google's response, it seems it was activated on ultra-wide-cam by mistake.
Th... more1. Actually EIS is related to video and on a tripod you don't need OIS anyway. But of course it's possible to align multiple frames. Google is already doing this since at least 2013.
2. Longer exposure time would be surely a solution, but low Iso = low analog gain would be bad. A high analog gain improves the signal to noise ratio of the raw data.
It might have nothing to do with the sensor. Note that the Pixel 5 ultra wide angle camera captures 16s exposures whereas the Pixel 3a only captures 4s exposures. The difference in exposure time is larger than the hardware difference, unless the lens suffers from a lot of vignetting.
- Anonymous
- gBV
Android--Master, 30 Dec 2020Astrophotography from Google is much better than any long exposure trash from Apple's Ult... moreI have never seen a comparison with Apple's ultra wide angle tripod night mode, but without Google's astro mode Apple's ultra wide angle tripod night mode would likely win.
- AnonD-973296
- GYi
Samath N8 808 owner, 30 Dec 2020Looking at Google's response, it seems it was activated on ultra-wide-cam by mistake. Th... moreJello effect?? what is that?
- AnonD-973296
- GYi
Anonymous, 29 Dec 2020it is another version of night mode but takes a longer exposure time or more frames, kind of l... moreso its cool but at the same times its trash to shoot with
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