AnonD-909757, 03 Jan 2021The" first one can barely be called Macro, it is just a close up on the edge of starting ... moreThere are better & closer macro sample using tele than those I provided, cant remember the website location.
'Ultra-Wide shouldn't be used for Macro'
- Shouldn't be used or not, the results speak for themselves (At least for now, in smartphone world). Yes the method are different than actual camera world, but its way way better implementation than those dedicated 2mp setup.
Dometalican, 03 Jan 2021Because DSLR exists, I'm surprised phone makers haven't thought to put one 40MP sens... moreZoom camera lens type would be nice indeed, mainly thanks to Periscope, we could have a big focal length range, but people are whining about this idea, so it isn't done, as any other awesome idea in the smartphone world, killed/prevented by people complaining about it without even knowing how good/bad it will really be.
Personally, I have made a "meta zoom" that mitigate most "problems" that a regular zoom would encounter on a smartphone :
I've improved the concept since, but basically, you have both excellent Wide and Ultra-Wide capabilities while also having a big Telephoto Zoom reach that can also double as Portrait without the need for a "portrait/depth camera" and can also do Macro as well as a dedicated one.
Shui8, 03 Jan 2021I've saw some macro samples from P30, Mate 30, P40 & Mate 40 Pro using either 3x (80m... moreThe" first one can barely be called Macro, it is just a close up on the edge of starting being a Macro.
Macro and Telephoto have a lot in common, if Smartphones had a Telephoto able to make super close focus and short Depth of Field, it would allow for amazing Macro shots at least as good as those of the Ultra-Wide take, and easily better.
Having too much Depth of Field isn't good in Macro, but a Telephoto can allow a better Depth of Field than a dedicated Macro and get an excellent result.
Ultra-Wide shouldn't be used for Macro.
spider-mario, 03 Jan 2021I am fine with no charger as long as manufacturers use a standard like USB-C with USB PD so th... moreToo bad only 6% of Xiaomi no-charger buyers side with you.
Dometalican, 03 Jan 2021Bingo.
If they removed the headphones and charger from budget phones, we wouldn't bat ... moreXiaomi seems to have trolled people and said they will they will provide an option to buy with chargers.
Only 6% bought the no-charger edition. So much for those pretend environmentalists here.
Because DSLR exists, I'm surprised phone makers haven't thought to put one 40MP sensor that starts at Ultrawide but then zooms all the way to 3X optical while retaining solid quality (similar to the older Nokia phones).
Either way, other than the new Xperia, I'm not looking forward to this year in terms of smartphone. It's bad enough the US gets the worst end of the stick when it comes to mid-rangers but most of the flagships are not going to be good.
CICARITO, 03 Jan 2021Perhaps the most embarrassing thing is dropping all accessories with phones that cost over 100... moreBingo.
If they removed the headphones and charger from budget phones, we wouldn't bat an eye. Yet, for some reason, as we pay MORE for a phone, we lose the headphone jack, expanded memory, battery size shrinks, and we lose the charger and headphones. Never understood that.
AnonD-909757, 03 Jan 2021Because 2Mp is ridiculously low and give awful quality.
And considering that 12Mp sensors are... moreI've saw some macro samples from P30, Mate 30, P40 & Mate 40 Pro using either 3x (80mm) or 5x zoom (125mm), actually it really really looks good! With nice depth of field separation!
Of course using UWA with AF (P30 Pro Super Macro Mode) can get closer (2.5cm),
But yeah, using telephoto on those can still work wonders!
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2021Portless Android phones have already appeared.But no one follows them. But if Apple does it... it will become mainstream!
What I find almost unbelievable is that people hate "useless" camera modules more than if no charger came with their phone or a tiny battery.
Anders, 03 Jan 2021If we want companies to stop treating us like idiots then we need to stop buying their crap. I... more...if you could decide which from the following features MUST BE in any midranger/flagship phone (choose only one):
* remove macro lens and include a basic telephoto lens (1.1x)
* 90Hz refresh rate (AMOLED or LCD)
* dual speakers
* fast charging (30W or more)
* reverse charging
* NFC / audio jack
...by the way, I agree with you CHARGER MUST BE MANDATORY....
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2021Dont mind is they drop the chargers as we all already have way too many of them. Just drop the... more"We all"? I have only one charger, don't speak for everyone, what's your problem?
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2021LoL mi 9t and mi 9se have gorgeous amoled same as their flagships counterpart and they have 2x... moreTwo screens of same size, same type and resolution do mean they are same screen.
Chinese midranges use worse oled than Galaxy A series.
No more 2mp cameras! We want proper telephoto/periscope lenses, ESPECIALLY on flagship phones!
They should drop those 2 & 5 mp sensors, and provide just two good sensors a wide and ultrawide with minimum 12mps each instead of tjose crappy 2 & 5mp camera modules.
spider-mario, 03 Jan 2021Charging not too quickly is better for battery longevity. With current lithium-ion batteries, ... moreOnce we move to charging above 120W who will want to wait hours, at least charging speed from 30% to 90% is important. Batteries get better eventually, remember we used to have to discharge and full charge them as new, now its not needed, longevity will get better too. Well, I need it to last an year, its my new phone cycle.
Yeah, I have had this question in mind for so long as to whether some cameras were necessary to be on some smartphones just to add an Extra Unnecessary Cost, making them quite expensive for people like me, lolz.