aReefer, 16 Jan 2021Telegram is encrypted by default. I'm not sure why everyone is saying that it isn't.... moreTelegram is NOT 'end-to-end' encrypted by default and only secret chats are. The encryption you read about for non-secret chats is the client-server encryption, not end-to-end.
And even for their secret chats, the encryption protocol, MTProto, is closed source, made in-house by people that aren't cryptography experts, not audited, and hence unreliable.
"Client-side open source" is a stupid argument. Something is either fully open source or not at all. Would it be okay for the server to do whatever it wants with your data (and keep in mind the in-house cryptography and default in-transit encryption which gives the server full access to your data)
If what's app is saying new terms are applicable to business acconts only, then why they made mandatory
to accept new terms by individual or non business
What's app users. What's app to clarify this first.
Anonymous, 16 Jan 2021And what's wrong exactly with Telegram? As people have written on here that Telegram has no encryption unless both users activate it, Facebook msg has no encryption either by default. As many people are worried about government and big companies "interference", I do believe that telegram is Russian( not the best record on government-sponsored hacking) Signal is American( have to make money at some point by selling your data), Wechat is Chinese ( some truly awful restrictions and controls), While LINE is Japanese (although separate the parent company is Korean) makes most of its money by selling stickers and other services and not by selling you out to Google and Facebook
DantE O2, 16 Jan 2021to those genius who selected telegram over whatsapp i should say i use both and telegram is co... moreTelegram is encrypted by default. I'm not sure why everyone is saying that it isn't. It uses very strong encryption.
The default chats are routed through a server, which is not open source. The clients on our phones however, are open source.
'Secret chats' simply are not logged at all on the server.
Also Telegram can basically replace both Twitter and FaceBook. You can 'follow' people on it as well.
Just read the FAQ's:
WhatsApp like Instagram is a ‘free’ service; we can’t be hugely surprised that they would want make use of our data. If you’re not paying for the ‘product’ you are the ‘product’.
DantE O2, 16 Jan 2021question is not about encryption . question is who's signal's daddy? who runs it. an... moreRead the terms and conditions of Signal or you opt-out for Telegram platform. I guess you're still locked with WhatsApp
IpsDisplay, 16 Jan 2021This is the first time I've ever mentioned censorship on this site ever how did you deter... moreYou comment the same nonsense some people did on the ban news. Wouldn't surprise me at all if you had multiple accounts. It's not censorship if you have rules against certain actions and statements to begin with.
I provided you with the argument that Signal currently isn't a social media and isn't linked to one. Even if it was, your "cEnSorShIp" cry was completely out of place and unnecessary in this discussion.
DantE O2, 16 Jan 2021question is not about encryption . question is who's signal's daddy? who runs it. an... more"how great let's trust it with closed eyes and closed minds!"
How about you open your eyes and look instead of trying to sound smart and commenting nonsense. Apparently you don't know anything about open source projects. If there is anything fishy in the code, you can look it up. Noone is forcing you to use Signal so stop whining.
Too late WhatsApp, we have already switched and never coming back.. cannot trust WhatsApp anymore...who knows they might siphon data without agreement in future... No facebook or related apps ever..
Anonymous, 16 Jan 2021Signal is open source and developed by volunteers. WhatsApp is actually using the encryption m... morequestion is not about encryption . question is who's signal's daddy? who runs it. and you don't even know. how lovely.
already deleted. no need
Just use imessage it's 1000x better
Anonymous, 16 Jan 2021You don't know what you are talking about once again. Perhaps get some therapy for your o... moreThis is the first time I've ever mentioned censorship on this site ever how did you determine I have an obsession with it then?
You say I don't know what I'm talking about but have not provided any statements to prove why
It's a simple logic WhatsApp shares DNA with Facebook and their security scandals it's no surprise that because of its ties WhatsApp was prone to these practices
Now it is reasonable logic that signal may follow any flaws of its Twitter roots
Maybe the world need to find replacements for Facebook-Watsapp-Instageam, Twitter and Google-Youtube
Another reason to switch to Telegram
i have downloaded signal
I disliked Whatsapp, Facebook and Instagram even before this. I can't explain it really, I just do. Is not necessarily about privacy, but I just don't like companies or people who creates monopoly. Who want everything. Because those companies or people are usually capable of anything.
DantE O2, 16 Jan 2021to those genius who selected telegram over whatsapp i should say i use both and telegram is co... moreSignal is open source and developed by volunteers. WhatsApp is actually using the encryption method developed by Signal, so there you go. You can view the source code yourself as well.