Duel, 12 Jul 2013Why you want that? Apple changed the whole way how we use phones these days, and also apple pu... moreYou seem to really love Apple. Therefore, you seem oblivious to the damage they've done to the phone market with their feature-phone, the iPhone. They made most people believe that the best OS is the flattest, not the most feature-rich and most usable, that apps are the only thing that matters when choosing a platform, that premium materials outweigh premium hardware and so on. They've destroyed indirectly such OSes as MeeGo, Symbian, Bada, WebOS etc.
Anonymous, 13 Jul 2013You want to make Apple disappear so that everyone can buy the phones YOU approve of. That just... moreApple must disappear some time in the next 15 years. They deserve it somewhat. They claim they're always right, that they make the products that consumers really want, that the iPhone is a smartphone, that iOS is comparable to Android, etc. These are all lies to some degree. Apple's CEO has read 1984, and now he's trying to apply what he learned on us. Too bad he'll fail.
Duel, 13 Jul 2013Greedy and arrogent? I havent noticed, what you mean by that? By the way, sorry to tell thi... moreYou don't understand where this is going. Apple are forfeiting their future for high sales now. When they'll oversaturate the market with iPhones, then their sales figures will tumble. Also, they rely heavily on iPhone sales to keep generating profits. Without these sales, Apple is dead.
Ive lived in Russia for ever. The carriers never give subsidised prices on the phones like the other operators around the world. An iphone which is available for 1000$ with the operator is freely available for 750 in the grey market. So why would someone shell out extra 250$ for an official russia consignment of iphone. Who cares? Also they lock the phones to a particular operator whereas you are free to roam on a grey market iphone.
LD, 13 Jul 2013Umm Duel. Did you want to post this again just once more. I don't think the other times were e... more"And the Verizon is having difficulties selling their quota of iPhones."
Do you have some point there?
Lets check numbers from last q
"Verizon Wireless Announces Record Profits, Sales of 4 Million iPhones
Verizon Wireless activated 7.2 million smartphones during the quarter, 4 million of which were Apple iPhones."
So over half of every smartphones were iPhones. I dont know about you but thats quite impressive number.
Its not apple's problem if verizon thinks too much about their operator and think everyone want iPhone from them. I dont live in US but what i have understood AT&T have always sold most of iPhones
Lets add this too, q4 2012 stats: "Verizon’s finance chief confirmed that iPhone activations hit 6.2 million units out of 9.8 million smartphones, or 63 percent." Even more impressive.
And you are saying they have difficulties to sell iPhones... ;)
so again whats your point? ;)
Duel, 12 Jul 2013Why you want that? Apple changed the whole way how we use phones these days, and also apple pu... more"apple push others trying their best so everyone won and gets better devices"
Looks like someone is not following the fact that apple sue's everyone that innovates LOL
Excuse me, but what are you talking about? No carrier in Russia has EVER sold subsidized phones on a contract. We just don't have that system here. If a phone is sold through a carrier in Russia, it is usually overpriced (like 20-30% to US price) and sold just like an unlocked phone would be sold elsewhere.
The people who still claim Apple has high quality and can charge a premium are living in the past.
The iphone 5 had more problems than any other manufacturer had with any phone in the last 2+ years. Chinese suppliers and Chinese assembly.
It's not just the phone itself, the ios software has had problems as well (battery drain, wifi connectivity issues, phones locking up in DFU mode, 3g connectivity issue, the maps disaster)
Here's your iphone 5 quality:
- Light leaks due to poor assembly
- Dented and scratched cases
- Wifi connectivity issues
- Camera quality issue in bright light
- Syncing issues
Apple iphone Quality.
At last somebody somewhere has the balls to kck Apple where it hurts :d :D :d lol
Limited, 13 Jul 2013Oh sh*t up fanboy. You won't get anything by defending this "greedy" company. You're... moreHe(Duel) used to be the guy going around these saying the "S" in Galaxy S devices stood for "Sh*t".
He stopped using that argument since the iPhone 4 S announcement. :P . You can't expect sane behaviour from trolls. :)
wise decision made by all Russian telcos, bravo! let Apple know we as consumer are the priority, not some pathetic American company who puts profit as priority by offering nonsense product to consumer. Well done Russia! and hopefully many other countries will be following the footstep of Russian telcos.
"which is usually costing them quite dearly, without losing a lot of subscribers."
Yet again. There are no locked phones in Russia, there are no subsidized phones as well. Do not mix mobile operator with mobile salon. Majority of people buying phones outside of salons of mobile operators.
The news was actually saying that there is the only major Apple seller left in a country - Svyaznoy. Most other major retailers boycotted Apple.
Duel, 13 Jul 2013Greedy and arrogent? I havent noticed, what you mean by that?
By the way, sorry to tell thi... moreOh sh*t up fanboy. You won't get anything by defending this "greedy" company. You're relying on stats? a BIG LOL for you. Stats can be manipulated FYI.
On a certain point, why do you think your beloved company was dumped by this Russian Telco? Think! This clearly states how Apple is dying.
Budget phone? so where is the ifanboys talk about iphone as "premium" or "class" phone? Even bashing other phones that has "CHEAP PLASTIC"? eh what now? is it coming back to you now?.
The reason that a lot of people want the death of Apple is one word, arrogance. Arrogance in attitude, arrogance in marketing, arrogance in product design. Yes, they changed the way we use a phone, but enough is enough. Don't worry about the competition, they will keep pushing to launch better products, there are many companies out there that will compete each other.
lm glad that now, producer who doesnt to hear what consumer needs(apple) will understand drop em all!
Duel, 12 Jul 2013This shows very different picture, actually iPhone growing faster than android, quite interest... moreApple growing faster than Android?
Really? How did you come to that conclusion?
Do you know how to read a graph? Obviously not.
The baseline for both Apple and Android on 1 April 2011 was:
Apple ios: Approximately 12%
Android os: Approximately 12%
The last date on the graph, 11 July 2013 the percentages were:
Android os: 43.17%
Apple ios: 29.28%
So explain exactly how Apple has grown faster than Android yet it has a smaller market percentage.
Duel, 13 Jul 2013Another stat http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_vendor-RU-daily-20130301-20130711
Interestin... moreUmm Duel. Did you want to post this again just once more. I don't think the other times were enough. Obviously no one is interested in looking at the "stats" you provided.
The FACTS are that these Russian Telco's are dropping Apple. And the Verizon is having difficulties selling their quota of iPhones. Regardless of what some BS stat's person you quote came up with.
Mate I would in the Stats industry and they can be twisted and turned to say what ever you want regardless of the 'true' outcome.