Tizen is a joke. No one with a sound mind would buy a phone with limited apps or games in the store. The mobile app and game dev eco system is already very saturated. The trend is reaching a peak, do you think Tizen can excite consumers? No way, people want a new phone with all the familiar apps or games ready to go and not an experimental phone. Tizen is not going to work. HTML5 app is a joke. Nothing can change native speed and flexibility. Samsung app store is also a joke. Which dev would want to develop for a new kid on the block when 2 major app store is already driving profit thin. Google does not earn from pure app revenue. Samsung must focus on good practical hardware people wants. Not branch and dilute their efforts to non core expertise.
We like Galaxy S2, S3, Note phones. Have they forgotten why people buy their phones?
It's the good internal hardware, battery, easy to use interface and pretty nice now (first touchwiz was bad). Android is what many of us are used to. We like to do custom roms sometimes for freedom of choice. If TIzen were to lock up up, then many of us would go to where there is flexibility of choice.
We buy phones for our use not for Samsung to make more money from us using the phone. We have our choices. SAMSUNG, do not go down the path of close garden. LG is chasing behind and they are getting stronger each day. I just saw the LG flex and it looks very impressive tech. I may jump ship if SAMSUNG release tizen on S5. Cause, it's a close door. I sense this from the release of their Android 4.3 version with KNOX. KNOX is a joke. Why limit us for what we want on our phone????????
I rather load stock android on your hardware if KNOX or Tizen gets in.
Well, remember why you are popular????????
All the best to your release of S5. Hope I dont get disappointed.
Tizen and Sailfish, both these operating systems are using Nokia's Here Maps solutions and i can confirm it. Benchmarks doesn't translate into better performance, in the video demo of this OS, the UI looks pretty cheap ugly and because it's resources hungry, this OS lags a lot. There's no need of a beefed-up processor because all it does it make the phone heat to certain extent where you can feel the back warm and heat is an enemy to batteries. There are phone like the Nokia 808 Pureview which can process 38 MP images with a single core processor and even if it has 1400 mah battery, it lasts more days than an Android one. This is the magic of optimization. While i had a bada phone, it was just horrible to use, too much hangs here and there and Tizen was developed by merging that bada OS which Samsung engineers said it's not an advanced OS. Sailfish OS was developed and designed by the same MeeGo N9 inventors, and not to forget the N9 was the only phone that beat the iPhone on side-by-side comparison and it has the same core, Mer and true multitasking capabilities even with a single core processor and that too super smooth without any lags but Jolla used a dual core this time because N9's problem with HD content. Now, Sailfish is real MeeGo incarnation while Tizen is just another OS like Android with same functionalities and personalization, and it can't provide a user experience as smooth as Sailfish OS. Samsung left Bada users alone, and if this fails, maybe they will abandon this OS as well. Don't ever buy this Tizen shit.
the chef, 09 Nov 2013the truth of facts that samsung has not made a good sales on windows n tizen. it is great tryi... moreVery few people want windows phone unless it's on Nokia. Only Nokia has been successful with WP8 because they don't have any other smartphones with their hardware. Most people are buying the Nokia WP8 phone on the strength of the hardware (my opinion based upon what I've read and people I've spoken with who have one)>
What phone has Samsung (or anyone) released on Tizen that you can quote sales numbers?
Also, what software should they focus on? The Touchwiz UI? Some people like it as is and some don't like it. So what other software should they focus on? Anything in the Google Play store you can't find that Samsung should develop?
Maybe you can't articulate your points, but seriously, you need to put together better arguments.
good back up, when it will be better than android and most close to desktop possibilities.
I feel that with tizen.. Samsung will be the next Cupertino empire
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2013What are you on about? Your comment is completely illogical. Apple has a propriety os and yo... morethe truth of facts that samsung has not made a good sales on windows n tizen. it is great trying to make their own os but it is wiser to invest it more on software than os. samsung has abt 30 percent out of 70 pencent of total market share in droid. why not focus on software n hardware n dominates those 40 percents in droid. the truth of facts android and samsung is like peas. they need each other so much to create a good sales and they can't stand on their own. just look at motorolla or even nexus 4 are they good at sales!
Dont trust Samsung when it can cheat a whole subcontinent
Anonymous, 08 Nov 2013http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-allegedly-in-talks-with-samsung-to-fix-burn-in-issues-on-retina... moreHahaha. Sorry, but I think this is funny. It's no accident that you hear about Apple having this problem (who else is having this same issue?).
Given all the lawsuits Apple has been filing and the protectionism of the US Government I see this is simple payback. It will cost Apple 100's of millions in sales over the Christmas Holiday buying season and Samsung knows this.
In the press it all sounds civil and like both parties are working toward a solution, but I'm sure there are people at Samsung who are chuckling and people at Apple who are furious about this.
Note3_user, 08 Nov 2013I think Samsung finally realized, that they cannot directly compete with Apple if they are dep... moreGo try a Nexus 5 and then comment on the lag if you don't like your Note 3 (and it lags as you claim).
Note3_user, 08 Nov 2013Well I dont need to bloat anything for I use a Note 3 - as my name suggests, and believe it or... moreSo how do you explain that when you tested the phone in the store before you bought it, that it didn't lag, but now that you have it it does? I'very tested close to a dozen in at least 5 different chain/phone store shops and not one lags. If you bought a phone knowing it lags before hand or didnt test one before purchasing you have no right to complain.
the chef, 08 Nov 2013Samsung don't concentrate too much on tizen or end up like nokia. U should know os is more imp... moreWhat are you on about? Your comment is completely illogical. Apple has a propriety os and you're pointing to their success due to the os while saying that Samsung shouldn't build it's own proprietary os or it will end up like Nokia.
BTW, in the event you hadn't noticed, Nokia's sales have improved dramatically in the past year (before the MS acquisition offer).
the chef, 08 Nov 2013Samsung don't concentrate too much on tizen or end up like nokia. U should know os is more imp... moreYou're right about that. The funny thing, too, is that, while Apple sells lower spec'd products (because of their philosophy of not focusing on specs but instead the user's experience, which is the right way to go), the iPhone 5S is still by far the fastest phone on the market.
Samsung makes products with monster specs but they don't perform nearly as well as Apple's product. Samsung makes garbage products.
Hope they install the DNSe music player with sound effects and seperate equalisers.
Samsung don't concentrate too much on tizen or end up like nokia. U should know os is more important than hardware. Just look at apple can sell more device with low spec than u.
Samsung put a lotion in-house effort into a proprietary look and feel for its java based feature phone OS culminating in their S8000 Jet in 2009. The company then incorporated this aesthetic in their BADA OS nd adapted slightly to become the Touch Wiz interface software overlay present on their Android smartphones and tablets like the S4. I would expects this to continue with their Tizen range.
Note3_user, 08 Nov 2013Well I dont need to bloat anything for I use a Note 3 - as my name suggests, and believe it or... morehttp://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-allegedly-in-talks-with-samsung-to-fix-burn-in-issues-on-retina-ipad-mini/
Fruit company in trouble , Samsung is real tech giant.
Anonymous, 08 Nov 2013Agreed in the beginning, but then you went and heavily exaggerated Android's shortcomings.Well I dont need to bloat anything for I use a Note 3 - as my name suggests, and believe it or not - it lags. It is a truly wonderful phone - capable way beyond what an iphone offers, but still - truth is truth - it needs 3 gigs of RAM (2.5 gigs full all time) and need double sized battery to give reasonable use time. I love sammy, I love android, but for Christ's sake, this is not a specifically fine tuned system. Its hardware and the android is nowhere near as optimized together as an iphone with its ios.