It is way too thick. Something like Z is reasonable not Z1.
I know Z is only water resistant but it is far than enough.
1987, 23 Nov 2013I can understand if they doesn't like a phone with big bezels because nothing wrong with that.... moreI know it doesn't have Waterproof but Z1 also dont have 3gb ram n some other features
so its not about competing.u got some points n so I got some points too
well the fact is none of any brand has ultimate full specifications ...
LGGFlex, 23 Nov 2013Yes Xperia UL demonstrated Sony's capability of making a weatherproof smartphone while keeping... moreI can understand if they doesn't like a phone with big bezels because nothing wrong with that.
But they are so clueless when they start comparing the bezels on Z1 with other phones that doesn't have same specs and not waterproof.
The Gatsby, 23 Nov 2013OMG !! im not talking about its screen size .... how can a mini have 1080 size display ??? ... moreLol... next time you must say it correctly, yes both S4 Mini and One is able to capture FHD 1080p video not “1080 display”.
1987, 23 Nov 2013What are you talking about dude??
S4 Mini has 4.3 inch QHD display (540 x 960 pixels) not F... moreOMG !!
im not talking about its screen size .... how can a mini have 1080 size display ???
im talking about Primary camera display resolution like 1080p@30fps not size or length
is that clear now ????
The Gatsby, 23 Nov 2013Yeah its just u who calls 720p downgraded display a classy gadget
but u can't hode the fact ... moreWhat are you talking about dude??
S4 Mini has 4.3 inch QHD display (540 x 960 pixels) not FHD (1080 x 1920 pixels).
One Mini has 4.3 inch HD Display (720 x 1280 pixels) Also not FHD (1080 x 1920 pixels).
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2013That's the price of a classy gadget. Go get some fugly phone that matches you.Yeah its just u who calls 720p downgraded display a classy gadget
but u can't hode the fact that Samsung s4 mini n Htc one mini has same 4.3 display with 1080p :)
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2013true Gatsby this phone is downgraded version and not like s4 mini and one mini which aren't :)Yeah sure thats the thing the others have to look n have to improve seriously :)
1987, 22 Nov 2013I'm not trying to say something bad but those people who keep complaining about bezels is so c... moreYes Xperia UL demonstrated Sony's capability of making a weatherproof smartphone while keeping a compact footprint. I guess the tradeoff is a thicker profile which is fine and with a removable battery, it's simply amazing. ZL also is stunning even though it's not waterproof. I know that Z1 bezels helped on some ways but like I said, people tends to compare things especially with the intense competition, they can't help but notice the bezels.
slowny, 22 Nov 2013Sony is so damn slow! I´ve been waiting for ages, and its not even official yet. If it&a... moreSo right. My Note was getting bigger and heavier every day, looking for a quality smaller phone. The Z1S takes way to long, sprang for a iPhone 5S for now.
40 $ difference between Z1 and Z1S ? That´s ridiculous. Sony saves around 80$ by using the smaller display and battery! Cool deal Sony!!! And they miss the trend to sell phones cheaper: look at e.g. Nexus 5. Sony wake up!
I think I will get the "old" Samsung S4 active. Measures height, has a removable battery and it´s just a long time available. So I don´t have to wait till Q1 (or better Q2, dear Sony!)
The fotos of my girlfriends Xperia V (13 MP) are already disappointing, especially when using HDR (with only 8 MP). I don´t think that the 20 MP of the Z1/Z1S change here so much.
I think the only 8 MP of Samsungs S4 active can still compete. But most important: It has a changeable battery! (I´m not of those guys who change their cellphone when the battery is empty ;-) But Outdoor I take two of them with me. While the Z1S will be empty.... Z1S was my dream. S4 active will be my reality.
LGGFlex, 22 Nov 2013Given the fact on the other side of your world are other people who do not intentionally bash ... moreLots of phones have bezels and I personally do not consider the bezel on the Z1 as excessive or huge part of what appear to you to be the bezel is actually part of the screen where the on screen buttons are located. The comparison with the iPhone is apposite because by your definition, the iPhone would have humungous bezels which I do not find aesthetically unpleasant. Most Sony phones do not have huge bezels and the bezels on the Z and Z1 are due to the water proof/resistant nature of the phone with the Z1's thin form also having to house a 3,000mAh battery and huge camera sensor without the ugly bulge of the S4 Zoom/Nokia 1020. On balance the design of the Z1 is perfect, in my judgement and it seems only others who do not own the phone, have never touched the phone seem obsessed with bezels. I suggest you go look at the black variant lying flat without a case and appreciate a thing of beauty. As I have posted before, I also own a 32gb LG G2 which I am very fond of but in truth, the build quality and overall look and feel of the Z1 is unbeatable. You like what you like and good for you. BTW, on a recent trip, those bezels made my film watching experience a joy as I did not have to hold the phone for 3 hours by the edges! A big plus in my book.
LGGFlex, 22 Nov 2013Given the fact on the other side of your world are other people who do not intentionally bash ... moreWe like it waterproof, it's what other brands can't do. 2mm bezel is not huge, your just over exaggerating. Is yours huge? Like 2mm with gigantic black beans in it? And LG g2 is ugly, it has abnormally over squeezed screen. Most brands got bezel same as Sony except for their flagship coz Sony choose water proof.
Check out Xperia zl, that's what Sony can do if they want to.
We choose winning brands. You got your choice, get lg looser.
LGGFlex, 22 Nov 2013Given the fact on the other side of your world are other people who do not intentionally bash ... moreI'm not trying to say something bad but those people who keep complaining about bezels is so clueless.
Until this day there is no one can make waterproof phone bezelles body, just look the different between S4 vs S4 Active or Optimus G vs Optimus GJ.
From what i know Xperia UL with “135 (high) x 71 (wide) mm” has the best screen to bezels/body ratio when it comes to waterproof phone.
And remember Xperia Z1f (Z1 mini japanese version) with 127 x 65 x 9.4 mm is a great engineering achievements because it comes with powerful chipsets, large 1/2.3" camera sensor, big 2300 mAh battery and IP58 certification.
If you can find any waterproof phones with same specs but in smaller dimension than Z1, ZU, and Z1f show it to me please!
minis are not the way to go...they should make the body compact ..less bezel not less display...
Sony is so damn slow! I´ve been waiting for ages, and its not even official yet. If it´s q1 im going for another brand. That´ll teach them. Or not.
Slayer , 22 Nov 2013Comments about bezels are boring.......and boring is just that boring as all the Sony/Bezel ha... moreGiven the fact on the other side of your world are other people who do not intentionally bash Sony but they just simply notice the huge bezels, just by observation. Perhaps Sony engineers or fans may think that something must be done to at least minimize the bezels. Well, they must have run countless simulation before finalizing the design and thought that huge bezels benefit on some ways. But we cannot ignore the fact that people notice it, and wonder if there's a way to trim it slightly. However Sony is quickly defended that it's just fine by comparing it with Iphone, sounds reasonable. But people still notice that huge bezels not because they hated Sony but because it is what strike the eyes, the first time you behold the the Z1/Ultra. But I am positive that Sony is able enough to produce a beautiful phone like Z1 which is waterproof and that time they will try to win the hearts of slim-bezel lovers by trying to minimize it as possible.
Rockstar (a consortium consist of
companies including Apple, Microsoft, BlackBerry,
and Sony) sues Google for infringing patents.
what an irony...
patent troll Rockstar (consortium of companies
including Apple, Microsoft, BlackBerry, and
Sony) sues Google for infringing patents.
so, if you do care about Google and Android, you should stop buying the consortium's products. let them taste their own medicine.
IreMinMon, 22 Nov 2013Why are you being that ignorant? A phone shuold be as large as possible, but small enough to h... moreJust one important point to add to your post, the sharp edges were maybe an issue with the Xperia Z, it is not an issue with the Xperia Z1 given Sony has rounded off the corners! Cheers.