PiXeLaDo, 11 Jan 2014Yes, there's no denying OEMs are not exactly helping the situation here, but try to look at it... moreI really have to wonder how long your family keep their phones. Only Nokia had somewhat considerable quality issues with ribbons on sliders, and most of those were not qwerty sliders anyway (For example Nokia N900, no ribbon issues)
Are you talking about old feature phones, sliders with numeric keypad?
Banutu, 11 Jan 2014By the time you write something with your qwerty keyboard I write something 3 times faster wit... moreMost clueless post, theres nothing that can match a good qwerty sideslider in speed. I dont know where you got this misconception from but i assume you are thinking of your grandfathers typewriter, which dont even have autocomplete. But guess what? Qwerty phones have autocomplete, and even without it they are impressively fast and most of all more accurate, one can just complete a word as one started it and never have to go back to correct, unlike swiftkey.
Of course, using a qwerty phone without autocomplete or correction requires that one know how to spell, maybe your problem lies there. People with dyslexia starting a word out wrong may not get the correct autocomplete suggestion and waste several seconds finding the correct start of the word, but that would affect the person also when using a gesture based onscreen keyboard so...
Good luck, get well soon.
Be Cool, 11 Jan 2014SONY first should stop with this sealed, glass design. And should try to get rid of, those hu... moreAt least Sony's design is way better than Samsung's Galaxy design and not to forget, Xperias look much more premium than cheap plastic Samsung Galaxy phones.
Most of the comments here are very childish.
People who obsessed with any specific brand just
because of the brand's name.
But to hear that windows phones have no future is beyond any ignorance!
Don't you realize that Microsoft already could release full windows operating system device with GSM voice calls? Don't you realize that it's all about keeping the prices up and that is the only reason why you still see windows mobile instead of full operating system? And finally: don't you see that in 2-4 years there will be only full windows system phones?
Microsoft high licensing fee for WP8 is what putting OEMs off. They need to make it free like Android.
Banutu, 11 Jan 2014By the time you write something with your qwerty keyboard I write something 3 times faster wit... moreWell they're talking about wp....i don't think wp is getting any 3rd party keyboard soon. :P
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2014People dont buy qwerty phones, since there arent any interesting ones. They are overpriced, of... moreBy the time you write something with your qwerty keyboard I write something 3 times faster with Swift key and even if I mistake I can correct fast, qwerty keyboards is so last decade the only people that wants them are 11 y/o girls.
Remember that it was a "history" already. Ativ S by Samsung and 8X by HTC were running on an outdated specs sheet but Snapdragon 800 and future Qualcomm CPUs will be compatible with Windows Phone OS so it is too early for you to say that history might repeat itself coz first of all WP8 is getting better as the number of apps starts to grow and the OS is a stable one. Yes, it may be a little boring unlike Android that is very customizable and more open type of OS but I must say that Sony might be able to make it successful this time with Microsoft as they make better and good looking hardware than Samsung and a much more affordable phones than HTC. Sony and Nokia were ones the best OEMs in early 2000s when Samsung before was like a mediocre player back then. The wheel is round and it goes around. You will never know exactly what will happen. Just enjoy the show if I were you.
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2014Nokia is dominant in the WP segment, cause the others never really tried.
Nokia did marketing... moreYes, big OEMs like Samsung and HTC didn't really go all-out for WP, but they did release handsets with hardware that's identical to that found on their Android flagships.
Remember the Samsung Ativ S and the Galaxy S3? How about the HTC 8X and the One X? Exactly, no less horsepower under the hood than their Android counterparts, yet they failed nonetheless, while their Android brothers ran the show. So, how do we get people to use WP? Should we throw more hardware at the problem? Marketing it harder, perhaps? Based on this experience, Sony would just waste it's time AND mony trying to release a WP version of, say, the Z1.
There. You could say no one but Nokia has ever put WP front and center, but you can't say no one else has put their best on a WP device.
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2014People dont buy qwerty phones, since there arent any interesting ones. They are overpriced, of... moreYes, there's no denying OEMs are not exactly helping the situation here, but try to look at it from a design or economic perspective instead of the consumer point of view: making such handsets is often more expensive and harder both to design and produce. Not as much as Samsung and Motorolla wanted us to believe with the S Relay and the Photon Q, but still.
Sometimes I fix phones for my family, and you really wouldn't want to deal with the low durability of sliders. Both the flex cables and the slider mechanism wear off rather quickly unless you don't use the keyb, which would be pointless.
I used to say all you said, and yes, you're mostly right, but seriously, most people have already gotten used to touch-typing, even myself (except for my phone's screen being a bit too small for portrait typing). That's why I really think the QWERTY market is a niche one now.
PD: you don't know how I've been waiting for Sony to release a successor for the Xperia Mini Pro :)
I will buy SONY with WP if they are really in WP market.. They should adopt agressive marketing strategy like samsung..
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2014did i said that wp is smooth?Most of the fanboys say so
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2014so why they didnt go with droid, elop cant decide that easy without the support or the approva... moreAccording to Wikipedia, Nokia Symbian lost their market share in Q4 2010.
In 2011 they announced their new CEO (hired from Microsoft) he dropped Symbian as their primary OS and made WP their primary OS, most of the people who brought wp7 Lumias lost their faith in Nokia as the OS was totally featureless.
Nokia is dominant in the WP segment, cause the others never really tried.
Nokia did marketing.
Nokia cut the prices on the 520, but HTC and Huawei did not on their competing models... we can all se what happend then.
Predictions suggest that WP will grow. And if that is true, there certainly is room for more makers than just NokiaMobile/MS.
Samsung and HTC never brought their A-game to WP. They just dipped their toes, in case a miracle were to happend, and they would be caught along.
Sure, back then there were limitations in CPU support, resolution support and there were features missing.
There are still features missing in Windows Phone, but its one of the more easy OSes to use. And it does not get hogged down with every updated app the way Android does.
But now, when resolution support and CPU support is there and most of the features once missing are on board, there is no reason for a manufactor not to give WP it's a-game.
So Sony would probably make some interesting phones for WP. And no one but Nokia has tried that before.
Will it be the exact same hardware configurations as Sonys android top dogs, perhaps not, but not as far off as we seen from HTC and Samsung.
By the way, why isnt Samsung working harder on WP devices, the OS is like made for Amoled screens, so it would fit them perfectly.
end of the day . A phone is phone to call and connect instantly.
any feature and function are plus point .regardless, wp, android or ios .
PiXeLaDo, 11 Jan 2014I know it's not impossible for big companies to make stupid mistakes, but Sony doesn't make QW... morePeople dont buy qwerty phones, since there arent any interesting ones. They are overpriced, often at premium price levels, but with much much less in terms of performance.
Those qwerty keyboards on the smartphones of yesterday outclasses onscreen typing performance and feel, any day.
And also a qwerty frees up much needed screen estate.
And how nice to be able to type quickly without auto-correct again. The auto-correct functions is quite hopless, and its there only to compensate for the bat typing experience on screen that leads to so many wrong presses... many times cause the keyboard doesnt at all register where the pressure point of your finger actually is, as it can sense no difference between that and other parts of your finger touching your screen..
Autocorrect made sense with numeric keypads, as that freed you up from clicking too many times.
But with qwerty you expect to be able to hit the right key, so you wont need such a feature... sure Office Word has auto-correct, but only to a very few selected words, and most of the time its correct. On phones it's a pain.. but if you disable it, you are in for another pain, and that is the screen missreading you inputs, and some keys are almost impossible to hit.
Sliding keyboards are ok, but only mostly because they are auto-correct based ones in the sense that you cant write in that way on a normal qwerty, much as the way it worked with numeric keys.
But onscreen qwerty with or without auto-correct is a pain.
And all onscreen keyboards, even numeric ones, steals too much surface fron your screen.
Some of those qwerty models offered tilting screen, which meant you could actually type and walk at the same time, not people just bump in to other people on the street and dont even look up to see if the other person is ok.
There are many peoples out there that wants high end qwertys with fair price. Decent design. and reasonble screen sizes.
Black berry offered no such thing.
aria, 10 Jan 2014Bells are sounding for Nokia, lumia 1020 Killer is on the way....The lumia 1020 killer is coming, probably sometime late august or early september, and it will offer 4K video, probably larger display and more batterylife. perhaps even magnetics for attatching filters over the lens.
No surprise there.
But it's coming from Nokia themselves.
1020 is a single model name and not a brand...
No, sony will probably not bring their top-tier to windows phone as their first try.
And even then, z1 had a hard time against the 1020, both have improved now, however, but the 1020 had much less to improve upon, so it should still come out on top. Except for the OS, where there are things missing, that may or may not come in an uptate this year, that may or may not be compatible with 1020 and other devices running on the same CPU.