Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009The iPhone has a 600mhz CPU that is underclocked to just over 400Mhz.
Yes hot SIM swapping ... morebtw I know how apple users love their applications. but none of them are aware of the applications under Symbian because they think the iphone is the only ones who can install it onto their smartphones.
Symbian has the most uses in the world and has been around for a lot longer than apple, so wouldnt you think that we would have masses of applications? why do you think Sony Erickson, Samsung Omnia HD jumped onto the bandwagon with all the Nokia handsets with Symbian?
symbianapplication . blogspot . com
its self explanatory
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009First and foremost Id like to say that i respect your opinions because i can actually have an ... moreHigh end phones use Symbian because its perhaps the best available to them. I'd laugh alot if I saw a SE or Nokia phone with the Iphone OS; they would obviously NEVER use Iphone OS even if it was better (though thats debatable, like just about everything else).
I've never had the pleasure of using an N82, and I have in fact heard many good things about it regarding its speed and RAM and camera. One issue here is accessibility. The problem with those "high-end" phones is that it is nearly impossible to get them without shelling out 700-800 bucks (even the C902 5MP camera-phone is like 600 bucks unlocked). Iphone is available for 200/300 bucks, and the next gen one probably (hopefully) won't be more than 300. Finding a good phone that is offered through a service provider is very difficult. I know T-mobile offers many higher-end phones like the LG Memoir with 8MP shooter, and the Behold, but all others like AT&T and Sprint have nothing fancy, except Iphone :)
Somehow I doubt that any phone could have so many apps open so easily without any of them crashing, but if its true then its true, I won't try and deny it.
I will agree with having a nice lense on a camera phone. My brother currently has a 2005 SE W810 with 2 MP autofocus camera (I used it for a year 2 years ago) and it still takes darn good pictures. Really I feel its the "autofocus" that makes the camera great, among other things. Fixed focus just isn't that great, and without a decent flash (LED just doesn't cut it sometimes), your pictures will never be super great in bad light. I still have pictures from that phone and they are amazing, especially for a 2 MP camera.
As for developers developing for Symbian over Iphone OS, I still feel that Iphone OS is much easier to develop for, and considering how popular the Iphone is among ALL age groups, young and old, business man and basic user, and even computer hackers (my cousin can sit in a starbucks and intercept packets of data on his iphone via both wifi and bluetooth, not that he's doing anything illicit ;) It is a GREAT way to get your applications out to millions of users. Just look at how many apps have been downloaded, they are quickly approaching 1 Billion downloads. Many developers have sold more apps on Iphone in 6 months than they have sold in the YEARS they've been developing for other OS's like symbian and of course PC and Mac. As much as I hate to say it, popularity of a device like this mean ALOT for developers and what they will develop for.
I meant no offense earlier, and I would also like to say that I am happy to have intelligent conversations with ppl on these forums, it so often turns to flame wars and CAPITAL LETTERS here...
according to the news " iphone 3.0 hides a video recording features"
That means its not clear its coming or not. You have to decode the crappy iphone updates to know whats coming. What a stupid idea ...which you only find from apple. Poor iSheeps.....ha!
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009First and foremost Id like to say that i respect your opinions because i can actually have an ... moreThere you go again telling people what's good for them.
When are you going to realize that not everyone has the same needs or wants as you?
Yet you continue to dismiss the iPhone because it doesn't do what YOU want, then you whine about me dismissing Nokia's over not having features I want.
I based my decision to buy an iPhone by balancing up MY preferences for what I want to use my phone for and the iPhone has delivered in spades, I have never regretted the decision and with the release of OS 3.0 things will only get better.
Symbian almost died, Nokia had to bail it out, it's reached it's limitations long ago it really needs a major overhaul if it wants to remain competitive.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Why don't you put the term 'wireless USB' into Google, try pairing it with 'Samsung' or try se... morethe keyword here is "like" a USB, yet you called it "wireless USB" which it isnt
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009btw..."wireless USB" i just had to laugh.
what in gods name are you talking about, USB is a... moreWhy don't you put the term 'wireless USB' into Google, try pairing it with 'Samsung' or try searching 'NaBee'.
120Mbs over wireless acting like USB and the chips required are small enough and power efficient enough to go into handsets.
Tansen, 12 Apr 2009Ok dude enough with the condescending remarks... We get it, you're old enough to call us "kid"... moreFirst and foremost Id like to say that i respect your opinions because i can actually have an intellectual conversation with you, instead of the other "kid" here as i call him, talking out of his arse with no facts but how a swappable SIM and composite video out is the most superior feature on a phone.
Although you say the "memory full" error was a joke to you, i can assure you that you can open up every single application on the N82 and it will not full up the memory. there are videos on youtube, as well, you can read the gsmarena review on it. at least then you would be assured that the review is somewhat unbiased. i have never experienced the slightest bit of lag running over 15 applications numerous times. it has dual 332mhz cPU which is godly fast. So i am sure that your n75 was a personal experience with a dated phone, so comparison with a newer phone is unfair.
Secondy, i can assure you that "resco photo viewer" zooms in and out just as fast for Symbian. My brother has an iphone, i know from experience. the OEM gallery is a bit slow, which is why this was created. im sure you would be impressed if you used it.
anyone can claim that no cameraphone can match a standalone camera. but we are far from it. optical zoom is not possible, so of course it cannot replace it. for facebook and web photos that limits the size of photos there is absolutely no difference with a 5.0MP with xenon flash for night photos. btw im not obsessed with photos. but carl zeiss lenses are fantastic, and nokia n82 produces fantastic photos.
another pointer is that no one carries a standalone camera with them all the time unless you are a woman. even so, it is convenient to have your cell phone do everything, and im sure everyone agrees on that. taking pictures for weddings even, using an N82 is sufficient. however, an iphone is not even close.
like ive said before, the features on the iphone are not bad. for an ipod. its limits are as a phone. most people want sms fowarding, bluetooth sending etc. apple went too quick to integrating an ipod into a phone which led to its demise. poor hardware. if you wanted amazing experience with the features you could have gotten an ipod touch. however, for a phone, the best functualities come from Symbian. Im sure most deveolopers have picked this up as ive said before: high end phones use Symbian OS. its fact.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009yes, everyone has 2 sim cards and that is all that matters to every user when they consider bu... moreThe iPhone has a 600mhz CPU that is underclocked to just over 400Mhz.
Yes hot SIM swapping is more important to me than having a video camera or any of that stuff that you say is so indespensible in other phones.
My N82 lies useless and forgotten in a drawer, replaced by a paperclip in my wallet next to the SIM I used to have in it.
I abandoned it because despite what you seem to think it's functions aren't as important to me as the iPhone's functions are.
Composite video out is important as I care about the quality of the picture when I watch my plasma, composite out from the N82 looks all blocky and distorted.
Another reason I dumped it was it was so damn slow to do things and I couldn't charge it from USB, what's with that are Nokia engineers ret***ed or something.
So there are people in this world who don't care about what you say is oh, so essential, build a bridge...
Thanks for the link to that Bluetooth site the article on an iPhone with OS 3.0 streaming music to a Toyota A2DP stereo system was most informative.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009btw..."wireless USB" i just had to laugh. what in gods name are you talking about, USB is a... moreUSB is generally used to refer to how devices communicate with computers. Don't make this about semantics, its about phones. Current can technically BE wireless (remember Tesla?) its just QUITE imperfect at the moment. One day we might have wireless power... And enough with the kid, kid...
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Component video out that's all that matters iPhone win Nokia fail.
Hot SIM swapping that's ... morebtw..."wireless USB" i just had to laugh.
what in gods name are you talking about, USB is a wire, how can it be wireless! its like me saying wireless AC adapter. how the heck can it be wireless, if its a wire!
wow, stupidity at its finest.
theres something called "bluetooth" kid. thats your solution to "wireless USB"
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Nseries has video out. that's all that matters.
you want to talk about a Stagnators and Def... moreOk dude enough with the condescending remarks... We get it, you're old enough to call us "kid", that doesn't mean we aren't smart enough to do our research when it comes to phones.
You say that all of the "high-end" phones use Symbian. While symbian IS a very capable system, it is also not without its glaring disadvantages. I had a symbian phone once, and it was a nightmare. Granted it wasn't the N95, but the N75 flip phone. Was great for a while, but the memory problem was just unacceptable. Multitasking was all but impossible, and even zooming in on a photo took ages. "General: Memory Full" was a joke...
Iphone can zoom instantly, can skim through thousands of photos as seamlessly as it would skim through 50. No other phone can do the things the Iphone can do as seamlessly as it can. No other phone, or OS for that matter, has as many apps as apple OS has, and none as good quality build as apple OS. As far as the camera goes, just buy a real camera if you are so obsessed with photos. The Iphones camera is good enough for little get togethers and pictures at Six Flags. For weddings, or new years, just take a nicer camera.
I would NEVER forfeit the amazing experience the Iphone offers for having a better camera on me. May be different for other people, but if you don't like it, don't buy it, simple as that. After using any other touchscreen phone, or phone for that matter, I am SO glad to use my iphone again. I feel like I'm on a desert island when I use any other phone, and that I'm back to civilization again when I use my Iphone.
When 3.0 comes out, the Iphone will have near limitless capabilities. With 3rd party bluetooth peripherals available, you could make literally ANYTHING you want. They will release bluetooth keyboards to type faster on iphone, blood glucose monitors for use with iphone through bluetooth, and even allow for integration with pacemakers and medical devices equipped to interface with Iphones (and there will be MANY, just look at the apps available now for facebook, pandora, fandango, wikipedia, skype, every major application used by people). Lets face it, the Iphone is the OS to program for, its easily the most popular and the easiest to develop for, just look at how accessible the SDK is.
While the Iphone may not have the fastest processor, or the most ram, or the most memory, or the best camera, or the biggest screen, or the most features in general, it will always have the broadest developer base and of course one of the most fluid and sophisticated interfaces of any mobile phone.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Component video out that's all that matters iPhone win Nokia fail.
Hot SIM swapping that's ... moreyes, everyone has 2 sim cards and that is all that matters to every user when they consider buying a phone. because every cell phone user has 2 phone numbers they switch back and forth every 3 minutes. im fairly sure you have no idea what a sim card is, or else you would realize how useless switching out a sim card is.
wow kid, do you even understand my point of irony? sending bluetooth files have been out for a long time and the technology just got and advancement. and here you have your ipod that cannot even send files over bluetooth. and you think an iphone isnt behind in technology. how delusional can you be, its not who invented it. god knows who invented video, the point is that iphone does not have video. because the iphone is a piece of junk.
microSDXC is out that can hold 2 terabytes of information. an N95 and N82 can handle a mircoSDHC that can hold 32GB. your apple doesnt even have a card slot.
again, ironic how you think Nokia is far back in technology and innovation. the only innovation apple has is its ipod. then came the ipod phone. the ipods great. iphone is nothing more.
underpowered CPU? do you call a dual CPU with 332Mhz underpowered? please show me faster CPUs before you talk more out of your a$$
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Nseries has video out. that's all that matters.
you want to talk about a Stagnators and Def... moreComponent video out that's all that matters iPhone win Nokia fail.
Hot SIM swapping that's all that matters iPhone win Nokia fail
Bluetooth 3, wow bluetooth's really advancing since Ericsson invented it, it's not here yet Nokia will fail at it with it's current underpowered CPU's , they can't even manage processing HD video how will they manage such high rates of data transfer?
I guess Samsung will lead the way with that one, or maybe they'll stick with wireless USB.
btw with an iPhone I can post from anywhere at any time such is the power of it's browsing which dominates all other mobile web browsers combined.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Is sticky tape phoneboy your mate?
Why don't you look up the difference between composite a... moreNseries has video out. that's all that matters.
you want to talk about a Stagnators and Deficiencies? Lets bring out some facts here little kid:
video in 2009? wow talk about flash back to the past. i can't even name a cell phone that didnn't have video years ago. btw forcing a program to handle a crappy lens with no video is shameful. if it could handle video in the first place, apple would have implemented it.
2.0MP camera in 2009? the only phones with 2.0MP are cheap cell phones. that must be the best camera on the market.. oh what lens is it made of? is it canon, nikkon or carl zeiss? well i guess apple can't play with the big boys with fine lenses.
no sms forwarding? what a disgrace. a phone that does not have sms forwarding. talk about inexperience with phones, couldn't even integrate that feature.
So what smartphone the market today cannot send bluetooth files? that's so disgraceful for a phone, especially upon hearing this news a couple days ago:
"Bluetooth SIG claims Bluetooth 3.0 can wirelessly transfer an entire music library, a complete DVD [or] a vacation's worth of photos, all within seconds"
sorry bud, you bought an ipod. an ipod costs $200. your iphone does the exact same thing.
wow the definition of irony is great. especially for delusional cell users like you who know nothing about the cell phone market. high end phones all use Symbian. Take a look at the Sony Ericcson IDOU, Samsung Omnia HD, Nokia N97.
give up kid. i just looked through the comments and you were sitting on the computer all day on a saturday night. get a life.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009of course, every Nseries has video out. where have u been for the past 5 years?
and who the... moreIs sticky tape phoneboy your mate?
Why don't you look up the difference between composite and component video.
My VCR in 1986 had composite out, your Nokia from a few years ago had it too it just goes to show the stagnating rut Nokia has fallen into.
And you're trying to foist their old junk off as if it was some sort of innovation, Apple are innovators, Samsung are innovators, LG are innovators and Nokia are stagnators.
Then it's alright for you to slag off phones because of what you see as deficiencies, yet when I point out the deficiencies of your precious Nokia's you whine like a sook.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Lol so much anger and hostility on these comments. I wonder what people will complain about th... moreWhen iphone will start shipping with these features (if at all), other phones might have actually started to make a progress in teleporting :D
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Let me get this straight, right, so you walk around with a piece of sticking plaster hanging o... moreit's rather hysterical that you laugh like an f'in buffoon on here, when this is only the internet. grow up kid, you've been on here all day. give your fingers a rest and go to bed.
by the way, go tell your mommy she got ripped off for buying you your ipod phone.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009Does your phone support composite and S-video video out?
Can you hotswap the SIM?
I'm la... moreof course, every Nseries has video out. where have u been for the past 5 years?
and who the hell needs 2 sim cards and switches them in and out? ok there kid, go fetch your 2nd sim card so you can show it off to your friends. nobody needs a second sim card unless you're a drug dealer, and i know you aren't one. kid.
by the way, i'd much rather have the best reception, the best camera/ video recorder, and the most reliable phone on the market than some lousy ipod for a phone.
if i wanted an ipod i would have bought an ipod.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2009In my simcards, i put strong plaster TAPE on the back,to be able to pull it out when I need to... moreLet me get this straight, right, so you walk around with a piece of sticking plaster hanging out the side of your phone???
What they call you, Poindexter the stickytape geek...