I own a nexus 4 . hope that the L update come soon if not will never buy a nexus 4 again
thecalmcritic, 22 Sep 2014"Apple does not suffer from this because they control all their chain, and that makes me ... moreControl being the operative word here since Scrapple users are running so much old tech and software that control is simple for apple to control. Open source allows FREEDOM to root and modify a device I bought and paid for and not like up like lobotomized sheep to get the next in the many, unending versions of the same garbage......BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS>>>>>APPLE RELEASE THE IPHONE 26D and introduces actual clear voice transmission.By the way, there is a ton of simple 3rd party software available for free to root and unroot your phone and let you experience what it means to OWN the phone instead of being a zombie user.
David, 22 Sep 2014This has nothing to do with consumerist agenda, Google's support cycle or whatever. This is ac... more"Apple does not suffer from this because they control all their chain, and that makes me suspect it was the reason why they are more and more making their own chips and their own designs."
Makes perfect sense when you have the kind of albeit limited lineup that Apple does. Just iPhones and iPads in that sense both share the same core components and all the resources (not just money but the R&D brainpower as well) combined. Also keep in mind that there was no way in hell that Apple would ever want to pass codes closed or blobs to OEMs the way Android is managed, it's just the Apple way and not due to their concern if at all about having to worry about streamlining fw/sw updates to users.
But again this is A LOT easier when you limit the options, as opposed to the array of choices provided by Android OEMs. YES the ongoing mistake so far is that nearly ALL of them insist on shoddily done in-house UX+apps bloatation on top of glaring planned obsolescence but the hurdle remains; it's a lot harder to plan across a much longer and diff specced product portfolio.
On topic I'm not seeing what's the fuss is all about tbh. If the recently launched Android One program is any indication, what with those 1st much lower specced than mako phones already guaranteed updates for the next 2 years, it would take something like an completely huge FUBAR event for Google to not be able to do anything for mako **shrugs** I could be wrong but it'd be just a dumb move on their part to gamble on that and upset a substantial chunk in Nexus' user base.
Yes it would be nice for companies to support older phones for years to come but its at the expense of progress on new phones.
It takes staff and money to keep working on old phones when these resources are much better spent on breaking new ground and coming up with better specs and software for new phones.
I don't buy a phone on the updates that are to come i buy it for what it has out of the box. Plus just custom rom it and you get updates just about every week.
I'm sure the rom community will have android L for a whole range of phones weeks after they get it in their hands.
This has nothing to do with consumerist agenda, Google's support cycle or whatever. This is actually a very technical detail: hardware OEMs couldn't care less about keeping their device drivers updated in the kernel tree.
They release low quality code that doesn't scale to later versions of Linux and Android, and as such nobody (not even Google) can keep those devices updates safely. Apple does not suffer from this because they control all their chain, and that makes me suspect it was the reason why they are more and more making their own chips and their own designs. Of course, as long as they keep having enough volume and money for competition, all good. But if their marketshare ever gets diluted by the sheer amount of other OEMs selling commodity Android hardware, they will increasingly have a hard time keeping up. This has happened again when they lost the battle with Microsoft, and the new reality has all the same ingredients, except with Google instead of Microsoft, Android instead of Windows, ARM instead of Intel (for now at least).
This is all a bunch of trade-offs. So let's drop the conspiracy theories.
Ayush01, 22 Sep 2014Nexus 4 completed its life cycle in May(according to google's strict 18 mnths policy) so srry ... moreIm pretty sure that galaxy nexus life was longer than that, wasnt it?
In fact, if i remember correctly, again, it was a hard debate last year.
It would be a shame if the Nexus 4 didn't get Android L. Still a very solid device.
Nathan Carter, 22 Sep 2014Its not bad for business, if anything it creates more business. Dropping off the old designs w... moreWell said Nathan. When companies drop support for barely old devices they look bad. Android already has that reputation where as iOS does not. Now the flip side to that is that iOS will work on older hardware and run like poop where as you don't always have that option with Android devices. The general public doesn't see it like that though they just assume their phone is old and they need to upgrade rather then forcing upgrades by not supporting old devices.
It's a win for everyone that supports Android as more people will stay/move to Android and the OS will continue to grow.
2 gigs of ram quad core cpu,update and evolvement should not be a rumor but fragmentation is a fact in android
MHanz, 22 Sep 2014Highly doubt it, it's beyond the support cycle by Google's own fine print. Plus it is counter ... moreIts not bad for business, if anything it creates more business. Dropping off the old designs with nothing and creating new designs that get everything is only good when you're forcing consumers to the new product. If you support a product that consumers really love, you get free advertising. When consumers are enthusiastic about a product, that's what sells, not the business itself. just look at apple and the 4s.
Before you talk business you have to know business.
AmateurHistorian, 22 Sep 2014Nexus 4 isn't even 2 years old so why won't Google support it? iPhones are supported for 4 yea... moreNexus 4 completed its life cycle in May(according to google's strict 18 mnths policy) so srry to say but no updates for it
i wouldnt say 100%, they probably have all their employees with nexus 4s running android L to see the stability, performance etc. to see if its viable. but i would say highly likely
Nexus 4 isn't even 2 years old so why won't Google support it? iPhones are supported for 4 years after launch and I hope Google do the same with its Nexus line.
MHanz, 22 Sep 2014Highly doubt it, it's beyond the support cycle by Google's own fine print. Plus it is counter ... moreThe thing is, the Nexus line is not exactly a consumer product.
It's not about selling the new product, Google makes money in other ways.
Highly doubt it, it's beyond the support cycle by Google's own fine print. Plus it is counter productive for the consumerist agenda to sell more new products when people don't need them. Supporting an old product is bad for business. It is not about the specs and how android L can support lower end hardware, it's always about flogging new products and use the new OS as an excuse to push people to upgrade.
Anonymous, 22 Sep 2014Kitkat on Note 3 has a really bad battery drain issue. It was really fantastic before now usin... moreI agree. My phone didn't have network drop issue on Jelly bean. I dont have battery issue though. Battery lasts for 15-18 hours on medium to heavy usage. Lets see if android L fixes all these issues.