Anonymous, 22 Oct 2014The only innovation those chinese rivals have over samsung is their cheap prices. Mainly becau... moreUmm, no.
Clearly you have not realized why Xiaomi took the Chinese market by storm or even why OnePlus had the worlds attention even despite their demeaning invite system.
The paradigm has shifted.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2014"As usual, Samsung crushes its rivals in innovation, profits and market share. Attaboy, S... moreThe only innovation those chinese rivals have over samsung is their cheap prices. Mainly because of those cheapo 256mb ram with hi-res screen. Lol.
AnonD-85193, 21 Oct 2014Thats a forecast it does not mean it will happen or be that bad, or it could be worse. The mar... moreIndeed. I may also add that is why people who are able to actually get it right (accurately predict the behavior of tech companies in a justified manner) are extremely well paid in the right circles.
AnonD-286309, 21 Oct 201464-bit is just marketing. Nobody is expected to take this announcement seriously. As soon ... moreAnd like PC's 32bit is still the majority, even after 15 years. I blame Microshaft for that they need to let go of 32bit Windows all together.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2014"As usual, Samsung crushes its rivals in innovation, profits and market share. Attaboy, S... moreThats a forecast it does not mean it will happen or be that bad, or it could be worse. The market is like a weather forecast it changes so much that it in fact means nothing at all in till it happens.
AnonD-92143, 21 Oct 2014First, straw man fallacy you had there. He was talking about 64 bits support in apps, and you ... moreYou are wasting time trying to explain that Java bytecode will automatically run at whichever bitness the VM has been compiled for, thus there is no effort whatsoever to recompile apps -- only the ROMs (which have the VM) need to be compiled for 64bit.
It's the VM that has the task to optimize the bytecode to the bitness. That's really what Google means by bringing 64bit to Android, they are optimizing the VM to take advantage of the new architecture -- to be clear, the app bytecode remains the same as ever and (with the new VM) that same bytecode will now take full advantage of the new arch.
Now that is a smart design.
AnonD-183154, 21 Oct 2014Guess you haven't realize we are more than 10 months into this year. 64-bit was introduced las... moreFirst, straw man fallacy you had there. He was talking about 64 bits support in apps, and you replied with 64 bits support in hardware.
Second, I doubt 50% of iDevices may have 64 bit hardware support. Perhaps you say 50% of new iDevices, maybe? Anyway, where is the source?
Third, Android has had 64 bits support in most software since ever. Its virtual machine means code for old apps can be recompiled at the device, if needed, to be run on a 64 bits machine. A few exceptions are the NDK parts. But basically all of it can be recompiled without the developer doing anything at all to support 64 bits.
Fourth, Android is doing very well, thank you, no matter how much Apple fanboys tried to throw sand and dust into its eyes over the years. With each "challenge", Android came out just fine, thank you. It didn't crumble, fragmentation didn't kill it. If anything, it keeps growing faster than any system before it. It runs in its own evolutionary speed, no need to compete with iOS at all.
That will be a good way of pushing 32bit iPhone users to buy a newer version....
rather than that, I don't see real benefits for a common user!
So that means we are not fully utilizing our iPhones. What a waste for us early adopters.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2014For you Apple fanboy deniers, I told you last year that most of Apple's own apps were still 32... moreGuess you haven't realize we are more than 10 months into this year. 64-bit was introduced last September so of course most apps in 2013 was on 32-bit. Now 50% of iDevices have 64-bit SoC and OS while not even 1% of Androud have 64-bit hardware.
Cannot believe Android's developer phone Nexus 6 is still using 32-bit when some low and mid-range Android are already running 64-bit SoC. Apple is as usual at the driver seat while Android in the back seat.
For you Apple fanboy deniers, I told you last year that most of Apple's own apps were still 32 bit - Told you so.
AnonD-286309, 21 Oct 201464-bit is just marketing. Nobody is expected to take this announcement seriously.
As soon ... more"As usual, Samsung crushes its rivals in innovation, profits and market share. Attaboy, Sammy!"
Little bit of correction, Samsung is currently being crushed in innovation (Chinese rivals, LG etc), and 60% decline in profits means that their market share is taking a beating too.
All Java based Android apps will automatically run in 64-bit mode.
Only apps with code writted in C++ in the NDK will require re-compliling to run in 64-bit execution mode.
What will happen to those that can't update the iOS, won't be able to run the new apps. Or even those that aren't iSheep and don't change their device at every full moon. Nice move to force people to buy your new devices.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2014Did wonders with Nintendo 64 which was 64 bit and super low ramNot sure if you realized, but we are not in 1996 and the current processor pipelines (even 32bit-only) have evolved impressively ever since.
Bottom line, today it's much harder to gain that amount of efficiency. The 64bit was just a moniker under which all the other pipeline improvements were introduced, improvements which today also feature in those 32bit-only CPUs.
AnonD-318966, 21 Oct 2014Well not really. 64bit processing does have some benefits. Well optimized apps can run better ... moreActually it's recommended because you need 64bits SO to use more than 3.2GB of Ram. All the ram you have after 3.2GB is not used in 32bit systems. That's the biggest gain from 64bit support.
That's why this is kinda lame, and more marketing than anything else, to put 64bit on devices with 1GB, 2GB... no pratical benefit, plus you'll leave the older devices out of the new stuff earlier (wich is good for the company selling new devices every year) and the best thing, the support for more than 3.2GB, is wasted.
When that happened with computers, the move was actually a good one because you could get a 64bits CPU/SO and later add more ram into it when it was cheaper. And actually even with less than 3.2GB system RAM, since the graphics card memory was also accounted into this 3.2 limit (and alread had 256MB/512MB/1GB cards + 2GB system RAM) it, you could easily break the 3.2GB ram and the 64bit support could be used alread.
You can't do that with phones/tablets. Not yet and probably never with the ones from Apple.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2014Did wonders with Nintendo 64 which was 64 bit and super low ramYou're mixing the stuff...
MeltGame, 21 Oct 2014Yoww samsung boy, if apple already upgrade its device to handle 64-bit it will be more brillia... moreLOL - my Note 4 is sporting the 64bit Exynos 5430 chipset based on ARMv8 achitecture - and still has the amazing S-pen 'thingy'.........