JUSTBOUGHT5233, 21 Nov 2010thanks.....i have checked that one's reviews mate. it shows price 750INR. but would it be tota... moreMate.. ED12LP is much much better than E818LP. It is a good starter as well... In my humble opinion, for a starter philips SHE2610 gives better audio quality than E818LP. It costs only costs half as much. I think that would be the best starter without burning a hole in your pocket. The design is good as well with three pairs of additional replaceable caps. The only con about these earphones is that they tend to break easily especially the wires at the junction near the 3.5mm plug. But as long as you handle it a bit carefully, it should last you 6months easily. I've gone through 3 pairs before moving onto ED12LP. By that time you'll be just craving for an upgrade and will find excuses to do so. My journey toward headphone nirvana started with it and finally ended with my SHE9800.
brijesh, 21 Nov 2010hi, mates(utk, sbdevil & sidewinder), i want to ask u a question about earphone. i have a ... moreGreat.. since you're using HS-83, I don't think you'll need an upgrade as I myself think it's quite good. I'll prefer it any day over any of SE walkman earphones. But if you are looking for a bit more quality, I'd recommend you go for either philips shh9700 or she9800. What HS-83 lacks as compared to philips earphones is accuracy in audio reproduction with a not so clear bass and a bit of depth. If you can upgrade to either of those or something a bit m0re expensive, then I'd recommend you do so with confidence but for anything below that, I'd advice you to simply stick with it. It's all got to do with individual likings and preferences. Philips earphones are more about accuracy in sound reproduction. They are very well balanced with the right amount of bass and treble.
Sbdevilmind, 21 Nov 2010Its nothing like that mate. Actually i have no knowledge about the headphones you mentioned. B... morethanks.....i have checked that one's reviews mate. it shows price 750INR. but would it be totally a waste of money if i buy mdr-e818lp? coz i wanted to try some budget headphones first & then go for the pricely ones. and thanks so much the great infos we are getting for you 3 guys are sound & music lately. btw, i didn't notice any difference by choosing line-out option using default ones. is it for that the default ones are that much worst? plz give your precious opinions.
Sbdevilmind, 21 Nov 2010Hey guys (side and utk). Since you are discussing about audio output through line out option, ... moreYeah.. I've noticed that too.. I think the volume level is programmed to incerase exponentially here rather than linearly. After volume level 8 in normal mode, increasing the volume level to 9 increases the volume level exponentially. Not like increasing the level from 4 to 5 which only increases the volume by a slight bit.
Anyway for me using my SHE9800, level 8 in earphones mode gives me almost the same volume as level 6 in lineout mode. Also tried loudness option but not working well for me. Maybe because my earphone is too sensitive anyway the music is sounding fuller and too much going on at the same time. It's ruining the feel of the song (I mostly listen to alternative rock and anything metal) and BTW I use my own custom EQ which may also play a huge role in altering the output.
People who still using nokia headset provided in the box . Can use this trick which is to press ur headset towards ur ears to get loud bass sound. Lol. Try it .
Venu, 21 Nov 2010I think distortion occures if you have an amp in phone which is pushing the speakers beyond th... moreWell mate the quality of the earphones is no concern for me as I use my Philips SHE9800 as my primary earphones. But I think the same situation can also occur if an underpowered amp is trying to power a high impedance earphone. That would mean that the amp isn't powerful enough to fully drive the earphones thereby introducing som sort of distortion. That is where the lineout optin comes into play. It boosts the power output to a level in which the earphones can be driven at a lower peak volume and thereby also minimising noise, hiss and other artifacts normally introduced at higher volume levels.
utk, 21 Nov 2010With normal equalizer or any of the other pre sets equ sets 'loudness' setting is horrible for... moreOf course. I would never dare use loudness OR equaliser if i use high quality earphones like you. My comment was solely for those who are not as fortunate as you are. I mean i was trying to help them get the best out of their device even using cheap headphones.
utk, 21 Nov 2010Your Chinese headphones are still working? The last pair I bought barely lasted two weeks. The... moreYes, they are still working. I actually keep things very carefully. As you may know, i always keep my mobile inside a hankerchief. Lol.
Anonymous, 21 Nov 2010So you are not familiar with any music systems. Loudness option is common with any good home ... moreActually i was refering to the loudness option in mobiles. As far as i have experienced, mobile version of loudness gives somewhat different kind of output. As for the distortion, its true. But that would depend on what type of headphone you are using. Higher impedence headphones, like dj headphones, has almost no chance of giving any distortion provided the device gives non distorted audio. Distortion is impossible in this device if one doesn't apply any type of equalisers. Besides, when someone (gsmarena in this case) has to check the distortion level then he has to keep the volume to maximum. Cause distortion is directly proportionate to volume magnitude(after a certain level of volume). Companies like samsung, nokia take utmost care to make products that gives almost no distortion even at the highest levels. Actually, they limit the volume to the level from where they start getting audible distortions. (I didn't mention apple because they use samsung audio chips in their ipods and iphones).
This fact can be proved by using power mp3, which has an option to further increase the volume (to a level of +12db from max). And when you do increase it, you will feel the sound cracking(symptoms of distortion).
Btw, loudness option turned on increases the output of certain audio parameters not when turned off decreases those.(speaking of mobiles)
Sbdevilmind, 21 Nov 2010Hey guys (side and utk). Since you are discussing about audio output through line out option, ... moreWith normal equalizer or any of the other pre sets equ sets 'loudness' setting is horrible for me. I don't think you can call it as an improvement in audio quality as all it does is boost up the bass(HUGE) and treble while the mid-range takes a heavy beating. For me the bass gets so powerful that everything else except for some highs gets overwhelmingly overshadowed by it. It's fun listening to 'electronic' or 'trance' genres but it's hardly audiophile material.
Maybe it's works well for the headphones you are using and the equalizer set you are using.
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Sbdevilmind, 21 Nov 2010Its nothing like that mate. Actually i have no knowledge about the headphones you mentioned. B... moreYour Chinese headphones are still working? The last pair I bought barely lasted two weeks. They just can't take my rough handling. I have to credit to my Philips SHH9700 for lasting this long, nearly 1 3/4 years and over thousand hours of music playback. The audio output is still as good as it has ever been.
hi, mates(utk, sbdevil & sidewinder), i want to ask u a question about earphone. i have a nokia hs-83, which i think is quite empressive. do u guys think that it wd be better to go with philips xx & tell me the exact model nmbr of philips model & also the price in INR. thanks.
SidewindeR, 20 Nov 2010Mate.. did you feel any difference after connecting the earphones in line out mode? I've read ... moreFrom the little reading i had done before, it seems optimum output is usually obtained at volume levels 6 or 7 and distortion or audio quality as a whole decrease when we move away from optimum level. But yes with increasing volume distortion increases way more than when decreasing. It's just my understanding and i haven't done to much research into this, so i could be horribly wrong. I agree with the improvements to the audio quality bit. I have been using the line out option for quite some time(ever since sb mentioned about increase in volume with that option). I feel that apart from the slight increase in bass there is a certain amount of increase in overall audio quality as well like you mentioned. The output from line out feels a lot closer to 5130 audio quality level. I think GSMArena's audio quality test result for 523x shows output obtained with line out. That would explain why the results show near perfect readings for all parameters.
Sbdevilmind, 21 Nov 2010Hey guys (side and utk). Since you are discussing about audio output through line out option, ... moreSo you are not familiar with any music systems. Loudness option is common with any good home theatre systems. People generally use this option (turns off)to avoid speaker distortion if they want to play music in full volume . This is because it can decrease bass and treble simultaneously to a bit for enjoying wrinkle free music. It is also true that it can enhance bass and treble in low volumes, if turned on.
Hey guys (side and utk). Since you are discussing about audio output through line out option, i think i too shoud add something to it. The volume level separations in both headphone and line out option is very different. I mean, one cannot get the same increase or decrease in volume while switching levels in these 2 modes. So, even if the volume levels in both modes come to same magnitude in, say, level 6 (line out) and level 8(headphone), increasing to level 7 and 9 respectively won't increase the magnitude equaly. Besides, there is also a vast difference in magnitude of volume in lowest level of both modes (i.e level 1). Level 1 in line out option is equal to level 4 (approx) in headphone option. I also discovered a good feature in this set that people use less often. Its the Loudness option in settings. This option is like mega bass of sony but has more qualities. I mean, unlike mega bass which only increases the bass, loudness on the other hand increases both bass and treble. This gives a feeling that the quality itself has increased. In fact, the increase in treble has nothing to do with the equaliser. I mean, even if one increases the equaliser's high frequency bars (treble bars) to max and then apply 'loudness', one can easily notice the increase in treble further. Guys using high quality earphones can't dare to increase treble to this high extent, so they never notice this fact. I, on the other hand, am using a cheap headphone with very low treble. So i could easily experiment with high treble. Now, i can't listen songs without loudness turned on. The quality seems to increase so much in loudness.
SidewindeR, 20 Nov 2010Mate.. did you feel any difference after connecting the earphones in line out mode? I've read ... moreI think distortion occures if you have an amp in phone which is pushing the speakers beyond their design limits. With a good pair of headphones there is no problem of distortion at all. It will be negligible if any.