Hey guys (side and utk). Since you are discussing about audio output through line out option, i think i too shoud add something to it. The volume level separations in both headphone and line out option is very different. I mean, one cannot get the same increase or decrease in volume while switching levels in these 2 modes. So, even if the volume levels in both modes come to same magnitude in, say, level 6 (line out) and level 8(headphone), increasing to level 7 and 9 respectively won't increase the magnitude equaly. Besides, there is also a vast difference in magnitude of volume in lowest level of both modes (i.e level 1). Level 1 in line out option is equal to level 4 (approx) in headphone option. I also discovered a good feature in this set that people use less often. Its the Loudness option in settings. This option is like mega bass of sony but has more qualities. I mean, unlike mega bass which only increases the bass, loudness on the other hand increases both bass and treble. This gives a feeling that the quality itself has increased. In fact, the increase in treble has nothing to do with the equaliser. I mean, even if one increases the equaliser's high frequency bars (treble bars) to max and then apply 'loudness', one can easily notice the increase in treble further. Guys using high quality earphones can't dare to increase treble to this high extent, so they never notice this fact. I, on the other hand, am using a cheap headphone with very low treble. So i could easily experiment with high treble. Now, i can't listen songs without loudness turned on. The quality seems to increase so much in loudness.
SidewindeR, 20 Nov 2010Mate.. did you feel any difference after connecting the earphones in line out mode? I've read ... moreI think distortion occures if you have an amp in phone which is pushing the speakers beyond their design limits. With a good pair of headphones there is no problem of distortion at all. It will be negligible if any.
JUSTBOUGHT5233, 20 Nov 2010hey 3 musketiers(sb/side/utk) are you angry with me? where are you? plz reply to my concern......Its nothing like that mate. Actually i have no knowledge about the headphones you mentioned. Besides, i don't get to use good headphones due to their unavailability in my town. Sidewinder and utk are much more experienced in using many original headphone products. I use only cheap headphones. The one i am using now is of 150Rs. It has overwhelming bass (2 to 3 times more than a ep630) but too low treble. I have to keep the last 4 eqaliser bars to max, just to get to normal treble output.
Btw, i really believe that sony mdred12lp is what you should go for. This one i saw in town almost a year ago(didn't buy cause it wasn't in ear) and its written price was 750Rs or so. Almost same price as creative ep630. Although i too recommend you to start getting used to inear headphones. Just try them once (original earphones are much more comfortable, btw).
utk, 20 Nov 2010That's coz the line out option is designed for high impedance sources like external speaker/am... moreMate.. did you feel any difference after connecting the earphones in line out mode? I've read that the distortion levels increase proportionally to the volume. So that would mean if we can achieve the same output at a lower volume, that should keep down the distortion levels and noise levels as well right mate?
JUSTBOUGHT5233, 20 Nov 2010hey buddy, i want to ask you a question in this regard. i don't like to use ear-canal headphon... moreMate... don't know much about philips shq1000 as I've not listened to it. But have tried the sony mdr e818lp as my friend owns a pair. It's a bit hard rating budget earphones after using my she9800 nonetheless this just my personal opinion and opinions are subjective ofcourse. Well i won't recommend the 818LP because honestly there is nothing special about it. It is an earbud style earphone and that would mean very poor noise isolation. As a result, the bass suffers a lot and don't even bother listening to in in noisy environment. It just fells and sounds like the stock earphones that come bundled with the low and mid range walkmans. There is bass but you'll have to keep pressing the buds against your ears to actually feel any.
Since you don't like using canalphones, what I can recommend instead of e818lp is to puss your budget a bit more and get the Sony MDR-ED12LP. It is also an earbud style earphone but the bass is much much better thanks to the particular shape and construction. I've been using it before I bought my philips and really liked it. It is very comfortable to wear for long periods and the sound leakage is significantly reduced. Or I'd say you get used to canalphones and get a Creative EP630. Even I was hesitant and unwilling to use canalphones at first for the same reason but Utk and others(in 5130 forum back then) persuaded me to try it out just once and I've never looked back since then. Hope this helps and btw Utk is an expert at budget earphones. I think he'll be able to guide you better..
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JUSTBOUGHT5233, 19 Nov 2010utk/sb/side plz help me out here. i downloaded a theme named "dark embossed black" i... moretry to download and install the theme again from the same website.. you may ask to replace the older one(that is not installed fully), replace it.. and then try to uninstall the theme. hope it will work (i am not sure). but, i had a same problem with a software.. i use this method and i could uninstall the software! or you can also try remove malware feature from netqin mobile guard.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2010friend,most of the music players gives low volume levels in headphones when compared to their ... moreMate it's just my speculation and what I felt. As I pointe out in my post, I used level 6 in line out option (I use level 8 normally for earphones mode). Well the output in both the case is almost identical but the difference in audio quality is what i was getting to and not the quantity or volume. You see a source which is capable of driving high impedance headphones can very well drive a low impedance earphone without deteriorating audio quality. The frequency response, noise levels and stereo cross talk should not deviate much even when earphones are connected. You yourself can check it out with a decent pair of earphones provided you achieve the same volume levels during the comparison in both cases. Well it's just my opinion. I may be wrong or it's just me...
Anyway glad you found it interesting.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2010friend,most of the music players gives low volume levels in headphones when compared to their ... moreI don't agree with you. You should check out other nokia XM series, ipod, sony walkman series or any other reputed mp3 player brands. They all provide very good output volume. Remember the output of this set is low(headphone o/p) even when using very low impedance IEMs.
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SidewindeR, 20 Nov 2010Hi guys... Here to share with you a neat trick which I think should improve the overall audio... moreThat's coz the line out option is designed for high impedance sources like external speaker/amplifier systems. So it should give decent output with high impedance headphones as well.
hey 3 musketiers(sb/side/utk) are you angry with me? where are you? plz reply to my concern......
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SidewindeR, 20 Nov 2010Hi guys... Here to share with you a neat trick which I think should improve the overall audio... morehey buddy, i want to ask you a question in this regard. i don't like to use ear-canal headphones as they are a bit uneasy to me. all over the net i have found 2 headphones....philips shq1000 & sony mdr-e818lp in the normal earphone catagory which have received overwhelming response. i can't shell a lumpsum on my first buy. its not possible to get a hands-on experience before buying. would you plz tell me how to decide that if a particular headphone gets a good review, is it must that it would also sound good with my phone? and plz if you kindly tell me if to buy sony mdr-e818lp? it costs 400INR. PLZ ADVICE.
SidewindeR, 20 Nov 2010Hi guys...
Here to share with you a neat trick which I think should improve the overall audio... morefriend,most of the music players gives low volume levels in headphones when compared to their line out options.This is to protect the ears from such high volume levels.
well known companies have their own accepted standards for volume levels and they will not deliver too high volume levels to human ears like china phones.
so it is natural that you got a better volume in line out option.I think Nokia's sound engineers know the difference between human ears and amp inputs.
But guys like me always appreciate your find as i desperately need such an output.
Here to share with you a neat trick which I think should improve the overall audio quality. The quality already is very good but I think this will improve it by a step more.
I've been going through a lot of headphone reviews and forum on Headfi.org lately and was surprised to see how audiophiles there recommend using an active headphone amplifier to improve the overall sound signature. The limitations with portable music players is that their output seems to be very low and is usually not recommended for use with high impedance earphones. Even audio quality tests on GSMA reveal how some phones behave nicely when connected to an amplifier with almost zero resistance and when an earphone is connected the quality drops drastically. 5800 has a separate headphones mode when a earphone is connected and it works very well too driving even full sized headphones like the senny PMX-60. For us 5233 user to get that kind of an output we just need to change the mode to line in instead of earphones. This gives us ample audio output without having to pump up the volume.
I normally listen to music at level 8 with my Philips SHE9800 earphones. The funny thing happened this afternoon when after reading all that reviews I connected my earphones in line out option again and set the volume level to 6. Level 6 in line out gave me almost the same volume out as level 8 in earphones mode. But the surprising thing was that now the overall sound quality improved. I felt a slight improvement in bass and mid tones. Can't say anything about the highs as I didn't feel much of a difference. I double checked and triple checked it to find the results to be conclusive. It's like the earphones have been connected to a built in headphone amplifier. MAybe the builtin amp may be capable of driving big sized earphones and has enough power to handle a high impedance load without sacrificing audio quality.
Waiting for comments and opinions from you guys...