Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970Hello Pao Pao,
did you know the iPhone is better than the Carl Zeiss killer 5800?
I can play games and touch the screen in more than one place at the same time.
If someone emails me a Word document, Excel spreadsheet, Powerpoint presentation or PDF file I can just open it, I don't have to search find things that probably don't work anyway.
I can put my phone in a pocket and don't have to worry about things scratching the screen.
The sound through headphone's is of higher quality, this has been proven in audio testing.
I can download over 15,000 applications and know they all work.
Don't let the hate die!!!
What Nokia 5800 has, iPhone doesn’t ??????
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Has the real competition to Apple iPhone finally arrived with the unveiling of Nokia 5800? Since Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced iPhone in January 2007 MacWorld, there has been a flurry of touchscreen phone launches from almost all mobile phone manufacturers.
However, so far no one has really been able to steal the limelight from Apple despites many devices boasting of far more power in terms of features. In the past few months, the Finnish phone maker has often been criticised for having missed the `touchscreen' bus. Will Nokia 5800 prove the critics wrong? Will Nokia 5800 be able to do to iPhone what no other phone could do? Only time can answer these questions.
Here we bring to you what Nokia 5800 has that its biggest rival Apple 3G iPhone doesn't.
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Nokia's first touchscreen phone boasts of a 3.2 megapixel camera with Carl Zeiss lens, 3x digital zoom, auto focus and a dual-LED flash. It also has a second backward facing camera. This compares to Apple 3G iPhone's 2 megapixel camera with no video recording option and no flash support.
Unlike iPhone, Nokia 5800 offers video recording option at up to 640 x 480 pixels and up to 30 fps (frames per second). It offers up to 4x digital video zoom. The phone's front camera supports video calling feature. Nokia 5800 can support video playback up to 5.2 hours, video recording time up to 3.6 hours and video call time up to 3 hours.
No video recording in 3G iPhone also means no video conferencing. iPhone also lacks optical zoom feature.
With Nokia 5800, the world's largest cellphone maker also tries to challenge Apple's dominance in the digital music arena. Beginning next year, the phone will feature Nokia's free one-year subscription for the company's new music service, `Comes With Music'.
Positioned as a music phone, Nokia 5800 comes pre-loaded with a vast range of music collection. Though iPhone users can download music from Apple iTunes, however, the service is not available for free. Apple has neither tailored any download scheme with iPhone.
Nokia's music download package is its first major push into the services business. The company said that all major music labels and most independent labels will offer their tracks as part of Nokia's 'free' music bundle "Comes with Music," raising the total number of tracks to around 5 million.
User's one big disappointment in 3G iPhone was lack of user replaceable battery. Apple reportedly claims that it left out the user-replaceable battery option as it would add weight to the device.
However, interestingly almost all smartphones in the market, even those at the lower-end offer this option. And so does Nokia 5800.
Nokia 5800 battery life is reportedly as much as nine hours (GSM) or five hours (HSDPA), 35 hours for music playback or three hours of video. Nokia claims that the standby time is up to 17 days.
Apple iPhone support talktime of 300 minutes for 3G and 600 minutes for 2G and has a 300 hours standby time.
Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic can sync with stereo Bluetooth or in-car Bluetooth handsfree, which again Apple iPhone cannot.
Nokia's touch phone supports Bluetooth version 2.0 with A2DP and AVRCP. iPhone lacks A2DP on Bluetooth. A2DP audio devices, such as stereo Bluetooth headsets, offer enhances listening quality.
Also, iPhone doesn't support file sharing feature including MP3, images and video files via Bluetooth.
Unlike the iPhone that doesn't allow users to forward text messages as well as MMS messages, Nokia 5800 doesn't have any such bar. The phone supports SMS, multiple SMS deletion, MMS version 1.3, message size up to 600KB and automatic resizing of images for MMS.
In iPhone users can only send text messages or snapshots via email. Also, users can't send a SMS to multiple contacts as iPhone has no option for that either.
iPhone also lacks support for voice-recognition that allows users to dial verbally. Here again Nokia 5800 takes the lead, the phone supports voice commands and dialing feature.
According to media reports, Adobe is working on Flash for iPhone. This means user needs to wait as and when it gets launched.
However, no wait for prospective Nokia 5800 buyers, as the Xpressmusic phone already offers Adobe Flash support. Flash is required to power many online video services and websites. This means with no Flash support when users will browse Web pages which require Flash, they will see empty spaces with missing icons on iPhone. Apple claims that Flash may slow down browsing on iPhone.
Incidentally, iPhone supports YouTube which requires Flash. This means users cannot get all YouTube video, but only a few selected ones that have been rolled out for the Apple-favored H.264 video codec.
Nokia 5800 too looks more attractive vis-a-vis 3G iPhone in terms of pricing. Nokia 5800 will be available at an unsubsidised price of 279 euros ($390). When compared to the 3G iPhone, the unsubsidised versions of 8GB model cost 499 euros ($700) in Italy or 350 pounds ($619.19) in UK. Nokia is yet to disclose the operator deals and other details.
It is expected that the phone will hit Indian stores by the end of December. However, in India Nokia so far has never sold its phones tied to any specific operator.
Apple iPhone comes only on Bharti Airtel and Vodafone network in India. So, Nokia 5800 Xpress Music seems all set to give tough competition to Apple iPhone which retails at Rs 31,000 for 8GB and Rs 36,000 for 16GB in India.
For text input Nokia's touchscreen phone has four options: handwriting, mini QWERTY keyboard, full screen QWERTY and alphanumeric keypad. The handwriting and mini QWERTY keyboard are stylus operated.
Apple's iPhone lacks Stylus, which, however, can be added as an accessory. Also, alphanumeric keypad and landscape keyboard is missing.
Nokia's touchscreen device comes with 81MB internal memory, 8GB microSD memory card, capable of further expanding up to 16GB.
However, iPhone which comes with storage options of 8GB and 16GB models cannot be further expanded. It has no memory expansion slot. The 2G iPhone was also available with same memory capacity with no further expansion.
to those who have this phone:
tell me the disadvantages of this phone please. :d
Shomail, 30 Jan 2009I have bought Nokia 5800 XpressMusic last week...When I go to install any 3rd party software, ... moreyou have to send it to the others folder even games applications then install shows up then it will show up in proper folder no other folder will allow you
Hey I really love this phone very - very much.
This phone is my Girl friend and i cann't live withour it.
*** I LOVE U NOKIA 5800 ***
To play music in Background Do this--
1. Play a music file
2. Press the RED button which is beside the Menu Button.
One more thing. I bought my 5800 from Zahrat Al-Hana trading, Ruwi. I'v warranty also. I live in Bangladesh n I hope i'll fly to Muscut shortly n ask Zahrat to fix the prob.
Shomail, 30 Jan 2009I have bought Nokia 5800 XpressMusic last week...When I go to install any 3rd party software, ... moremaybe it's because the sis application that you installed is the sis file for 3th Edition not 5th edition
Hi Danne. Thanks for UR reply.
I tried that touch screen collaboraqtion. My phone's lower right side screen is not responding. After just using 25 Days I's facing the prom.
NOKIA, I'm relly shocked about it.
I have bought Nokia 5800 XpressMusic last week...When I go to install any 3rd party software, in most of the cases its shows message at phone " sis file not supported"...wat should I do...but I have installed some other Themes on this phone....Is there anyone to solve my problem??
it is a very nice mobile developed by nokia it also provides good facilities to users
- No video calls over the 3G network ( this considered 3g phone? )
- The handset wobbles on hard even surfaces
- There are a number of messaging downers
- Camera has no auto focus, nor video recording… nor any settings at all
- Safari browser doesn't support Flash and Java, doesn't have a download manager
- Bluetooth support limited to headset use only (no A2DP or file transfers)
- No office document editor
- No copy/paste functionality
- You cannot sync Notes and TO-DOs
- No memory card slot (but knowing Apple there will never be one)
- price ( expansive )
- Video calls over the 3G network
- Camera 3.15 MP ( Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, video(VGA@30fps), flash )
- Bluetooth, v2.0 with A2DP.
- Memory card slot.
- price ( cheap )
- iphone3g, expansive, less features.
- Nokia 5800, cheap, good features.
- why compare iphone3g with nokia 5800?
- why not compare Sumsung M8800 Pixon/i900 Omnia, with iphone3?
** dear viewver, u wan nokia 5800 abit slower but good features, or iphone3g fast respone but limited features? **
Am gonna buy that 5800 damn good mob. Could somebody let me know the quality of dual-LED flash. Is the snaps looks good even in very dark place?
i m a 5800 user its an amazing creation.no doubt.bt i hv a smal prob.i cnt directly close a runnin program as i cud in my previous N81 by lng presing da menu button n den cancel.i hp 2 get a reply soon.tnx
No KIAs, 30 Jan 2009What's the use of using Carl Zeis lens when the image is so crappy? They could have just use a... moreuse SE as a benchmark? i have been an SE user for the last 5 years, using the P800,P900,W850 and W890, but i have become increasingly frustrated with SE's lack of features (autofocus, flash,3.5mm headphone jack etc) in phones which retail for the same price as nokia. I just bought the nokia 5800 and there is NO phone in the SE portfolio that can match it for price or features. I am thouroughly pleased with the 5800 and i applaud nokia for its first touchscreen effort. all i can say is maybe SE wouldnt be losing market share if it used Nokia as a benchmark
ShotGun, 28 Jan 2009Plz Tell me how to active secondary Camera??????????? to activate secondary camera? u mean the front one ? u gotta have a data plan for the feont cam, it serves as a video chat
What's the use of using Carl Zeis lens when the image is so crappy? They could have just use a cheap plastic lens. Can bring down the price also. Nokia Engineers should use SE phones as a benchmark. Hopefully, a firmware upgrade improve things.
NOKIA 5800 IS MOST POOR CREATION BY NOKIA
i am from varanasi UP, India. i purchase this set on 21-1-09 and next day it was at nokia care with serious problem. nokia care said that this is manufacturing defect and will be replaced by distributor. But till today i not get my phone back. Nokia distributor at varanasi RK distributor said that it will take more 4-5 days. i think i west my Rs.19000/- for this poor set and that is no useful to me. So for all viewers save your money. Don’t buy this poor phone otherwise you will feel sorrow. if any one want to see nokia care job sheet of this poor phone, i will mail. My id is Manish_contact@yahoo.com