Sovanndy Cambodia, 11 Sep 2012thank Carol am will take it to nokia care next few days, but i still doubt about some user com... moreIt may be true (for them)... but nokia 808 has fp1 and has no problem, in fact, nokia 808 was released with fp1 and from 808 users you here only good things. That's only because, until now, are more experienced users than normal users who bought this piece of art. this was an offtopic comment;)). Ok, ontopic now: from my experience, if you want to have a good stable and new system, you need to install it from scratch. In mobile world that is not possible until now because you don't have a bios to keep the hardware up and running. But believe me, if you could do that you would have had the most stable smartphone out there. But you can still "fake" a stable system installation if you're not upgrading via OTA (first) or via nokia suite without formating the phone first. So, from my experience if you format the mass memory and that the phone and only after that, install the new firmware and available updates etc. You will have an 70% more stable system. So, every time there is an important firmware update i do like this: 1: copy important files to a backup folder in my pc. 2: backup only contacts and messages from phone memory( sometimes the calendar to) 3: format mass memory 4: this is a tricky one - open settings/phone/phone management/factory settings/delete data and restore. Now everything is like out of the box. 5: access folders where nokia suite keeps the installation files (in case you have already updated your phone before). In my case (windows 7) this files are in: C:\ProgramData\Nokia\Nokia Suite\NOSSU2\variants\Products and i delete all the folders that are in there. 6: now i plug the phone in my pc\open nokia suite\flash with the new firmware... So, to answer you:)), if you do it right all the new firmwares must be better then old ones (and IF they are not, nokia will release bug fixes as soon as they can)
Carol, 11 Sep 2012No, i don't think it is, if you don't have any strange apps from a network provider, is not. I... morethank Carol am will take it to nokia care next few days, but i still doubt about some user comments which disappointed with the software update. some of them complaint about can't connect to wireless, low sound, no vibrate etc. is it true?
Sea-Breeze, 11 Sep 2012Android camera :s , lets see the lumia dual led flash vs 808xenon ! battle of Nokia !http://www.symbiantweet.com/nokia-camera-guru-damian-dinning-on-pureview-nokia-lumia-920-vs-nokia-808
Badly808wanter, 11 Sep 2012Galaxy camera ??????Ar u kidding? without pixel oversampling G camera is nothing...It cant ... moreDude, no need of long explainations, I know A to Z of mobiles ! Dont burn, I wont suggest anythng other than 808 if any1 want to buy best cameraphone :D
Gitty, 11 Sep 2012Yes, 808 is the king of cameraphones! Only nokia can make better than this ! But we were talki... moreAndroid camera :s , lets see the lumia dual led flash vs 808xenon ! battle of Nokia !
Sea-Breeze, 11 Sep 2012Oh same camera unit as on the Xperia S , while the Xperia S takes Horrible noisy night shot... moreYes, 808 is the king of cameraphones! Only nokia can make better than this ! But we were talking abt android cameraphone ;)
Carol, 11 Sep 2012If you like taking good quality pictures, the 808 and the n8 are the only ones to provide such... morei was one of the very first owners of the 808
thats my set on flickr
Gitty, 11 Sep 2012Sony xperia ionGalaxy camera ??????Ar u kidding?
without pixel oversampling G camera is nothing...It cant close to 808 camera picture quality wise
but its smart camera...It will compete with point and shoot cameras but not with the 808 or maybe Lumia 920
Samsung stands for piece of shits man...cheap plastics...
still no android 4n to fight with 808 or even N8 in camera department ...
Samsung is good with hardware but not with overall user experience...
i Know that they already sold 20 millions of S3s bcoz of high end hardware part...due to Android want that type of hardware to get smooth experience..
With out any multiple cores 808 gives smoothest user experience...
Most of guys think hardware part is important thing..but its not..
low hardware with highly tweaked/optimized OS can give smoothest user experience than Hi end hardware with less tweaked/optimized OS experience
that is the difference with Android and Symbian
THAT IS THE NOKIA MAN.......
Sea-Breeze, 11 Sep 2012Oh same camera unit as on the Xperia S , while the Xperia S takes Horrible noisy night shot... moreIf you like taking good quality pictures, the 808 and the n8 are the only ones to provide such a thing. Maybe lumia920 be better the n8 but there is no way that camera will overtake 808's monster camera. So if you have the 808, you must to be proud. Maybe in ten years this camera will be a normal thing in smartphones, but only MAYBE.:)
Sovanndy Cambodia, 11 Sep 2012hi Carol! my phone is no vadaphone or t mobile logo it has only nokia logo. is it a branded ph... moreNo, i don't think it is, if you don't have any strange apps from a network provider, is not. I'm sorry to tell you this but maybe you need to wait a while longer... Or, you can go nokia store, if is any in your area, and ask them to install the updates for you (first back up your phone, home).If it's still under warranty they will update your device for free.
Gitty, 11 Sep 2012Sony xperia ionOh same camera unit as on the Xperia S , while the Xperia S takes Horrible noisy night shots.., its real noisy u can even see them on the mobile display
Lets wait to the Lumia920 vs Nokia 808 even me myself may swap to the Lumia if it proves a better camera.
symbian os., 11 Sep 2012dial *#0000# and check updates ...u will get fp2i already tried dude! but its sent me no updates aviable though belle fp1
Carol, 11 Sep 2012Branded phones came with network provider customizations. Let's say a Vodaphone branded mobile... morehi Carol! my phone is no vadaphone or t mobile logo it has only nokia logo. is it a branded phone? n i've checked by dial *#0000# already, but still no update aviable. oh is it good if i update my phone via pc
Sea-Breeze, 11 Sep 2012thanks guys, obviously i cant help him to get a good android with a good camera as all cameras... moreYep, there is no way you find a good camera on android:). Maybe he can wait for the new nokia lumia 920??? If he doesn't like symbian.
Sovanndy Cambodia, 11 Sep 2012i haven't tried update via pc yet because i think it may uncapatible with my phone. i have che... moreBranded phones came with network provider customizations. Let's say a Vodaphone branded mobile, will have some vodaphone s**t in it and will also not update to official firmwares because only vodafphone will provide the firmwares for you. So when everybody with an unbranded mobile will receive official updates, you will receive them latter (depending on how quick this guys are moving to brand the firmwares for you) or never. Anyway, the better way to update your phone is through pc... if you really really can not use your pc, than use this code *#0000#/ after the window is opening, hit options/check for updates...
thanks guys, obviously i cant help him to get a good android with a good camera as all cameras are sh*t to me beside the 808 :D :D :D maybe he will get a oneX or S3 i dont know !
the samsung galaxy camera is a joke ! what were they thinking about :D its even cant call ! imagine putting it near your ear looooll