Nokia 808 PureView - user opinions and reviews
- Gitty
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Siva Bharani, 01 Aug 2013No more info can be obtained from google...;)... chance less... shows that Ziad is back to pag... morehi ! R u still using belle delight ? Or got the one now ?
- harishdev
- rKAq
hmmmmm....thanks for your reply guys. One is better in something than other. But i think 808 has much better camera than 1020. I will continue with it. :)
- Anonymous
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harishdev, 31 Jul 2013hi Carol, how are you ? I've come here after long time. So, nokia is now launching lumia 1020 ... moreyes, the sensor is smaller but still bigger than 1/2.3(the most common used dimension for pocket cameras) and 1/3(most smartphones) so there is no doubt you can't go wrong with either choice you make. Is it as good as 808? from the first samples I've seen the iq is still better on 808 but the differences are small and for many 808 users(including me) there is no reason for updating if we speak only about the camera. I wanted but I expected a little more, still 1020 it is the first choice available(I guess you could still find new 808s although hard or second hand ones) when it comes to photos/video. Anyway, if you didn't make up your mind yet, take a look first at the guys from dpreviw:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/8135699821/sample-gallery-nokia-lumia-1020#embeddedSampleGallery1612474854?news
and soon they will review it as a camera the same way they did with 808
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/4388245494/nokia-808-pureview-review
Maybe you could draw better conclusions then, over here are more subjective opinions(I susbscribe to that:)) in saying 808 still holds the crown:) but for sure I wouldn't be disapointed in carrying an 1020 arround...
- Siva Bharani
- utYL
Ziad Mohamed, 01 Aug 2013Look, I posted it in gsmarena and 808 page several times, but no problem to share it again wit... moreNo more info can be obtained from google...;)... chance less... shows that Ziad is back to page... Am i right Friend??
- Rizwan Iqbal
- 6Qam
daily popularity of 808 is rising day by day after availability of 1020. :D i think people are comparing both devices. :D
- Ziad Mohamed
- rtQ}
harishdev, 31 Jul 2013answer my question buddies....! :(Look, I posted it in gsmarena and 808 page several times, but no problem to share it again with you


1- Nokia 808 PV has 1/1.2" FSI CMOS which is bigger than lumia 1020 1/1.5" BSI CMOS sensor.


2- Nokia 808 PV has ND filter and ISO 50 level to reduce the highlights, Lumia 1020 hasn't

3- Nokia 808 PV has the biggest focal length ever (8.02 mm) which gives you the best depth of field more than Lumia 1020 (6.6 mm) only...Lumia still bigger than N8 (6.0 mm) and all other phones out there for sure
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4- Nokia 808 has bigger pixel size


-- 38-34 full resolution is 1.4 um like Xperia Z, Iphone 5, S3-4


-- 8 MP pureview mode is 3.07 um (very big for phone)


-- 5 MP pureview mode is 3.91 um (amazing for phone)

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- 2 MP pureview mode is 4.89 um (biggest pixel ever in any smartphone)

This big pixels gives you such pure and clear pictures...so when zooming 100% you will see zero noise (depending on zoom levels also till you reach the max zoom so you will get the real resolution)


5- Nokia 808 Pureview handles over 1 Billion pixel per secend during 1080P video recording and that's 16x powerful than any phone ever (read the white paper)


6- Nokia 808 producing it's images at 300 dpi. (amazing for sure, N8 also)


Now coming to lumia 1020...the best smartphone camera out there right now:


1- Lumia 1020 has smaller pixel size 1.12 um due to the samller sensor size


2- Lumia 1020 producing images in 72 dpi only...another reason for making the pixel smaller than 808 pureview's one ( talked with juha alakarhu on twitter about pixel size and he told me that they simulated the 1.4 um but the results was worst than 1.12 um


3- Lumia 1020 has no ND filter.
4- Lumia 1020 has no ISO 50, it starts from 100 and this will results more noise and highlights in the pictures.

5- Juha didn't tell me about the pixel size of the oversampled 5 MP...he just told me that the physical pixel size is 1.12 um, but I think it will be around 2.75 um or somthing like that, but obvious it will be smaller than Nokia 808's one

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But Lumia 1020 also has some advantages over it's older brother the 808 PV :

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&;#8233;1- Lumia 1020 have apreture F/ 2.2 bigger than 808 PV F/2.4, and bigger F-stop means bigger depth of field and better light catching


2- Lumia 1020 has the best OIS on any phone, it's the second generation and really it's impressive and awesome and very powerful and accurate more than Lumia 925-928-920


3- Lumia 1020 have Six lenses rather than 5 only for 808 pureview and 4 only for all the lumias except Lumia 925 (which has six also)


4- Lumia 1020 has better oversampling algorithms so the 5 MP should sharper than 808 (but that doesn't mean better or more details)


5- Lumia has faster shutter speed till 1/16000 faster than 808 PV which has shutter speed around 1/ 5000 - 6000 and the pictures is almost totally dark.


6- Lumia 1020 has Rich audio recording and two mics. like 808 PV...808 is stronger cause it can do like 320 mb bitrate/s CD quality beside WP OS still has mono only for video recording...(read the white paper of 808)


7- Lumia has mechanical shutter like 808 PV and N8 and that's help the Xenon flash and fast mode photos


So as you see both have amazing technology and Nokia only one can do that

but The final conclution:

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-Nokia 808 is better in terms of clarity and pure photos with almost no noise...it has more zoom with 2MP PV mode up to 3.6 zoom so: day light photos, portraits, landscapes, night photos it will be more clear and producing more amount of details.


- Lumia 1020 will be better in low light, indoors, night portraits and photos, cause of the awesome OIS 2nd generation which gives the Lumia 1020 extra points here
(Nokia 808 pureview will be better in low light in terms of quality and clarity with details but it will need tripod, cause it will be very shaky at night and produce very shaked photos)
but you know, not every one will cary or use tripod when going to club or taking quick night photos
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Lumia will be better also at videos cause they will be very sharp and stable due to OIS 2nd generation.
I hope that make it clear and gives you some nice information, Ohh...btw I'm saving right now to pick up one hot yellow Lumia 1020 :P
have a nice day...808 PV user ;)

- Siva Bharani
- 2Tbm
harishdev, 31 Jul 2013answer my question buddies....! :(have a look into this Harish
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/18042_The_first_big_PureView_battle_.php
- Siva Bharani
- 2Tbm
Ziad Mohamed, 31 Jul 2013Hi Siva, Rizwan and all dear friends
Whats up my dear friends, how are you :D
I hope you... moreFine Ziad.. Sure we all will be waiting!!!!!!!!
Take care Friend...
- Rizwan Iqbal
- 6QbT
Ziad Mohamed, 31 Jul 2013Hi Siva, Rizwan and all dear friends Whats up my dear friends, how are you :D I hope you... morebe happy and safe dear and have a nice time. ALHAMDULILLAH we are doing well here. What about your area situation. May ALLAH help you ppl. And protect you from any bad situation.
- Ziad Mohamed
- fvyR
Hi Siva, Rizwan and all dear friends
Whats up my dear friends, how are you :D
I hope you all doing well and enjoying your 808, I'm sorry for being busy this days (hahaha fasting and beside our sad national situations beside I'm in a camp without any internet connection right now :P)
I just replied you from the work...I'll back soon for this lovely page to share some important points about 808 pure view and how this AMAZING camera phone still one of it's kind in terms of over sampling technology , I really can't feel any serious reason to get the Lumia 1020 the long I use 808 Camera, however I missing some nice advantages of WP OS , beside I'm waiting for Xperia honami with it's 1/2.3" inch (I love Sony also)...confusing myself always O-o
keep supporting the page with Carol and always be at your best...my lovely friends ^-^
- harishdev
- rKqm
hi Carol, how are you ? I've come here after long time. So, nokia is now launching lumia 1020 41mp camera phone. Is it as good as 808? The difference between these two is the L1020 comes with a new 1/1.5-inch, 41-megapixel BSI sensor, which is smaller than the 808′s 1/1.2-inch, non- BSI offering of the same resolution. What difference will it make practically ?
- Rizwan Iqbal
- 6Qb5
Carol, 30 Jul 2013Belle refresh is for first generation s^3 devices. In fact, it is a FP2 missing some things. N... morecan you please suggest me link for garmin for Nokia 808..
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Rizwan Iqbal, 30 Jul 2013i asked about the same question on nokia discussion form and moderator was laughing at me :( n... moreYou never know. Symbian is now maintained by Accenture, not Nokia, and they have a contract until 2016.
- Anonymous
- t1$F
What is pixel pitch and what is the advantages of it? I heard Nokia 808 has 1.4 microns. What are microns now? Whenever i take a video, it captures a little bit shake. Any ways to solve this in 808?
- Carol
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Rizwan Iqbal, 30 Jul 2013if they launch belle refresh for 808 then i could be able to install sygic. Because we don't h... moreBelle refresh is for first generation s^3 devices. In fact, it is a FP2 missing some things. Normally you should be able to install any app that is for N8 (to say) in your 808.
- Rizwan Iqbal
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Carol, 30 Jul 2013Hey, i don't know. But i can say that 90% there won't be any major release for Symbian. Fp2 wi... moreif they launch belle refresh for 808 then i could be able to install sygic. Because we don't have Pakistan Nokia maps.
- Carol
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Siva Bharani, 30 Jul 2013ya ya u may be right abt ziad rizwan... People always laugh at nokia when it comes to update ... moreHey, i don't know. But i can say that 90% there won't be any major release for Symbian. Fp2 will be the last breath of it. But there should come other fixes and small improvements.
- Siva Bharani
- 2Tbm
Rizwan Iqbal, 30 Jul 2013ziad is busy in fasting i think :p or may be after some new features of 1020.. :Dya ya u may be right abt ziad rizwan...
People always laugh at nokia when it comes to update for symbian and MeeGo.
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