Anonymous, 19 Jul 2013You are so right about the hardware thing. It really pained me that Nokia just sat and trust ... moreYeah, but i think the things are much more complicated. Nokia had all it's factories in Europe. And the last best seller Symbian (the N8), as far as i know, is made only in Finland. Allot of money are invested in that little device (i don't think that Finland workers were paid with 100 euros). I can safely say that one N8 production costs 3 times more then iPhone 5, and 4 times more then sgh s4. Nokia needed a well optimized system for a not so very expensive hardware. Nokia could put dual core in n8 and 1gb RAM, but i would like to see that guy that pays maybe more then 1000 euros for a mobile phone:). Even Symbian is a quite expansive system to develop. Nokia has been hit quite hard by the hundreds of crap cumming like a Flood from China, they stood no chance with Symbian and all their expensive devices in front of mass flood of so called smartphones. So, this is my two cent opinion about why the mighty N8 does not have more powerful hardware. Still, Nokia could use Symbian now, after the moving to China is over and they start to take ground again. Maybe later we will see it, if Nokia recovers from serious loses. From not selling devices to expensive manufacturing, to moving to China. Just imagine how many punches Nokia took and it's still standing....
Ziad Mohamed, 19 Jul 2013Wow Carol, what a post!!! I just got the surprise chill when you said that people saw your ... moreActually, wp has animations, the whole UI is made from animations and it's still bloody smooth:). I give this credit to Microsoft. They proved they are still competitive when comes to optimize an OS. Still, they aimed more for the IOS users type, instead of Symbian users. After all, from the beginning wasn't about Nokia, was about a new OS to take over the smartphone market. They now, realized that what Steve Jobs (R.I.P) did, with his mouth, apple cannot continue. So it wasn't about a locked, more secure OS. In fact, was about selling! Manipulating people to buy and to think they need what they are buying. Convincing them that one product is better then them all. Microsoft wanted a healthy community growing just like the IOS one, hmmm... Even though, i consider wp way better then ios (even desktops OS's: windows 7 and windows 8 are more greater then any Macintosh), Microsoft took the bull by it's horns releasing a very odd UI into a locked system. This kind of slammed the door for both already occupied camps (by IOS, symbian and android). IOS users are lazy, not willing to learn and to know why (they just want a phone to work on what they want to do) and that is why IOS was released, but wp is plain strange for them, locked enough to be secured, but strange enough to be disliked. The other camp want's to "crack" into the phones core having no real chance doing that with wp(we are letting the kids and simple users camps out, though are bigger then them all, are controlled through social manipulation by the first 2 camps), so therefore comes a rejection of the product. Wp will go higher in time. Now i just love those icons and style. I'm just tired of sparkling icons. I never liked them and always looked to have a mat theme in my symbian. Never found it. So, a real copy of the new wp8 UI for a symbian theme, will be more then welcome by me:). And this is just the beginning. If you understand what i mean. MS just needs more work on the system cause the UI is starting to take life. BIg time:). As for buying the lumia 1020, i don't like Vodafone, they are not good. Also, there is a complicated thing i also don't like this days which i will probably explain to you some other time. (if you want to know, is not that interesting):))
Siva Bharani, 20 Jul 2013Hi Gitty.. i have a lap running Win 7 and in that to i installed flashing tool and everything.... moreyes I have flashed my n8 on my win 7 last year, It was successful without any problem but now phoenix gives me dongle error on it even I have disabled antivirus and removed all nokia related stuff so I tried on my friends laptop ! I ll try it again on desktop or I ll just stay with ofw !
Gitty, 19 Jul 2013I managed to install phoenix on another laptop but It doesn't start flashing, it stucks on wai... moreHi Gitty.. i have a lap running Win 7 and in that to i installed flashing tool and everything.. but it entered in failure.. do any of ur friends have lap or desktop running Xp.. actually i am using my desktop with xp to flash my 808, N9, N900 and also friends android phones.. think how good XP stays.. actually Win 7 also supports.. but something technically should be done to support what all we wish it to do... many patches and so n.. so check to it.
Gitty, 19 Jul 2013I managed to install phoenix on another laptop but It doesn't start flashing, it stucks on wai... moregoogle it ( how to flash nokia 808 using phoenix ) you will have several links. Now open www.nokia808... And you will find phoenix lnks in it too and also find the method of flashing phone. For more help search same on youtube.
Carol, 19 Jul 2013Yeah, this is a very good study. I always said that no mobile os can beat Symbian in terms of ... moreCarol...
Vodafone Germany offers Lumia 1020 for only 30 Euros on contract....I think it's awesome deal...what do you think...it's time for you to bring N8 a new brother??? :P
for me it's awesome...if it's here in Egypt I would definitely pick up one ")
Guys once again can u help me getting download link for THE ONE 4.2 CFW...
Siva Bharani, 19 Jul 2013both of u and carol are having something attached to ur fingers.. Typing that long like an boo... morehahahahahaa Thanks dear Siva Bhraini for your amazing words...I really love this forum cause I learned a lot of things form every one here...you are so kind.
Hats off for you and all my friends here ")
:D :D :D XD
Keep Pureviewing ;)
Rizwan Iqbal, 18 Jul 2013actually this page is added to my favourites ;) with one click i can access your awsome reviews..:)Me too, this is one of my favorite pages, cause I can contact, learn, meet lovely friends like you and all the people here :D
Thanks very much, keep Pureviewing :P XD
Carol, 19 Jul 2013Yeah, this is a very good study. I always said that no mobile os can beat Symbian in terms of ... moreYou are so right about the hardware thing. It really pained me that Nokia just sat and trust their fans/supporters to be stupid and not check out what the competition has to offer. People (including I) started leaving Nokia(symbian) when android came with a nicer interface and better hardware. When Galaxy S was using 1GHz CPU and felt faster that a symbian phone at 416MhZ (mot sure if that is exact) and 128MB RAM **cough** N97, 5800; Nokia did not even budge and try to improve their hardware, they did not want to reduce their profit by using better hardware. People noticed the responsivenesss of other OS and started to abandon nokia. Even though Symbian UI was old, I think if they had improved their hardware at that time, they would have still been competitive.
Symbian's(and Nokia) woes was a very avoidable and unnecessary occurence.
Ziad Mohamed, 19 Jul 2013Hi all my friends by the name of every one :P As you all see that Nokia Lumia 1020 samples ... moreboth of u and carol are having something attached to ur fingers.. Typing that long like an book author.. At last u have said ' THANK YOU FOR SPENDING YOUR TIME ' but in reply we will say ' THANK YOU FOR SPENDING YOUR DAYS '. For going through what u guys described here takes 1 or 2 mins. But for typing those it will surely take 15 or more mins. Also should get it clearly clarified before posting here. thank u for ur wonderful work.. Also thanks for all symbian lovers who reply for each and everyones doubt here immediately..:):):) hats-off friends... Cheers:D:D:D:D
Anonymous, 17 Jul 2013try 2012.16.004.48159 works great for me.I always uninstall Nokia suite before installing p... moreI managed to install phoenix on another laptop but It doesn't start flashing, it stucks on waiting for usb cable and an error at the end that boot rom was not detected, unable to flash !
Carol, 19 Jul 2013Yeah, this is a very good study. I always said that no mobile os can beat Symbian in terms of ... moreWow Carol, what a post!!!
I just got the surprise chill when you said that people saw your mobile as it's the first Symbian to act good and fully customizable, shame on you Nokia killing this software!!
- Also agree with you about that Symbian was limited by hardware and even it is very powerful comparing to other OS's
Example: Xperia Z with it's quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram and Adreno 320 with Exmor RS Sensor...N8 blow it of the water in terms of image quality and processing...Nokia N8 is producing 300 dpi images too!!!!!! and this is one reason of why it's better than Xperia Z and Xperia S with it's 12 MP in terms of imaging...beside the sensor size, big pixels and optics
Windows phone can't handle such imaging power despite it's bloody smooth in every thing more than Symbian, but I called it fake user experience!!!
The UI doesn't have any animations or graphics like android and Symbian...but coming to gaming and imaging...WP OS is horrible...you gonna believe me
All android devices with the same spec: S4 krait chipset and adreno 225 with 1 gig of ram preforms way better in gaming and imaging despite it may lag at daily uses, Symbian on 808 pureview for Example can run fruit ninja like a boss in 35 to 45 frames, while Lumia 800 and 920 and above with better chipset run it like a movie on 20-23 frames....very bad experience
and about my opinion Carol: WP OS is beautiful and unique...but truth that it will never catch up with android!!!
cause of one word: (((OPEN SOURCE)))...and that's the secret word behind Symbian emperor which can do every thing...Zip, download from browser, torrents support, office, file manager, all videos format support, all sharing features...modifying and custom Roms...like small PC
Android Now despite it's disadvantages, but I consider it the now days SYMBIAN cause it can do almost every thing....however it's not like it in imaging...Symbian is a king really and that's very mysterious thing despite it's poor specs...powerhouse really specially for cameras...smashing any other OS's
Android is very successful cause it copied every thing Symbian did and do and updated it to make it better and more modern....While WP OS is very limited...512 doesn't support a lot off apps and games, unlike android which is source hungry, imagine ??
Nokia Now is the only Company who push WP further and further and they bring a golden innovation to it more than any company ever...Hope they will be no. one again cause I can't imagine my phone without their logo :D
Thanks dear carol for you amazing reply and sharing with me all that...happy you loved my post also, appreciated "P
cheers and have an amazing day ^-^
THE INDIAN, 19 Jul 2013Hi frnds I'm using this phone over a year. Now I want a little help from you earlier I heard t... morehi THE INDIAN. Me using 2gb card for back-up purpose. Also if u r a music lover and like to have 3000+ songs in ur phone.. Surely nokia music store will help u.. As 808 comes with one year music download subscription for free ( 40 lakhs songs ) and each song from store size 1 mb in average. If u want 20+ movie's in ur phone.. Then 32gb card will be needed.. Getting our doubts clarified is always worthy:):):):);););) take care friend.
Carol, 19 Jul 2013Yeah, this is a very good study. I always said that no mobile os can beat Symbian in terms of ... moreAt last someone thinks like me...
I hope Nokia bring Symbian back and make the most out of it.
Carol, 19 Jul 2013Yeah, this is a very good study. I always said that no mobile os can beat Symbian in terms of ... moreabsolutely powerful OS... Only who use symbian in all respective areas to the core will believe this. Well said Carol.:):):);};};}
Ziad Mohamed, 19 Jul 2013Hi all my friends by the name of every one :P As you all see that Nokia Lumia 1020 samples ... moreYeah, this is a very good study. I always said that no mobile os can beat Symbian in terms of power. Other have raw power hardware that can not be used entirely by the system, but symbian is just a raw power system. It is like a brutal machine handeling everything you throw at it. It's only limitations is the hardware and not vice-verse. Still, unfortunatly, people look for simple, fast anno headakes. Symbian developers were to late with belle. The world already bashed the only real mobile os and the trend started with useless os's that were doing simple tasks (facebook, tweeter bla bla bla) look sparkling. Funny, era of smartphones started with dumber OS's Nokia never fear. Nokia knew Symbian is to powerfull to be surpased by crapp but they were to cocky to realise that the world does not know that, and don't really care about that. The world is fake. And symbian was behind android UI and even ios crappyest UI ever. They were simple and quick to access while 80% of ex symbian user still don't know that symbian could be very simple in the menu if they would just move the damm apps from folders and delete all of the folders. Or create folders as they pleased. I had people telling me that my phone is the first symbian they see it is different. They never knew you could customize it to the full. They had no clue what are they holding. Shame on them for being lazy to learn and shame on Nokia cause has left the system behind, never releasing the true power of it. THE only system that is limitated by the hardware and not vice-verse. The only real smart os that could still be the king if nokia wouldn't have been so proud. Windows os, is good, and i hope nokia will make it even better and will survive this era. But symbian with kind of support, would have killed andoid in a matter of months....
THE INDIAN, 19 Jul 2013Hi frnds I'm using this phone over a year. Now I want a little help from you earlier I heard t... moreYeah, supports if it's not full. You can plug it in, yes. It will be readed, yes. But! Going above 32 gb will make your phone totaly unresponsive. Will already start to hang even before the card hit's the 32 gb limitation. So, is this card supported? I say definetly, no, besides what i've said earlier, it is also not worthy to pay more money for something that cannot be used to the full. Others may contradict me, cause they use one. This is also something that tells me that people don't need so much memory, cause they never reach the problem, even though they may have some but blaming on the system:).