Anonymous, 25 Aug 2020Also Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra is the first Smartphone with graphene Battery!Gotta admit, graphene batteries were made by xiomi, this one is new. Let me guess, they also innovated aluminium and plastic since they use them, right? They can't make a design of a device and all they do is copy and low quallity paste, not even a propper "paste" but wait they were the first to use graphene batteries, good to know some innovate so much, it is actually unbelievable. Tomorrow they invented IPS LCD's and Amoled's...check.
They have to make a 7.3 with specs a little bit less good, same design and max 6,1"... Seriously who REALLY need phone of this size and weight ?
Carol, 24 Aug 2020Your claim is quite baseless. They charge as fast as they grow defektive. If their was no noki... moreXiaomi paying Nokia is because of a Licensing deal and there's nothing wrong about that since businesses does that all the time the same way all smartphones manufacturers pays licensing for their cores to ARM.
Nokia's business agreements is with Xiaomi's datacenter infrastructure and not their phones, refer to this: https://www.nokia.com/about-us/news/releases/2017/07/05/nokia-and-xiaomi-sign-business-cooperation-and-patent-agreements/
Xiaomi's smartphone licences in terms of cellular were provided by Qualcomm or Mediatek depending on which SoC they use for their phones to work. With Nokia out of the picture, Xiaomi would still be there since they're not dependent to Nokia with their phones. Nokia isn't even the only one that can do network infrastructure for Xiaomi and Nokia is just an option, not the only one in this industry. I would go to the point that Nokia or HMD Global needs Xiaomi and their deal benefits Nokia more than Xiaomi why? Simple because HMD Global is in the brink of collapse until Google and Qualcomm injected Millions of investment:
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_and_qualcomm_invest_big_in_hmd_global_the_home_of_nokia_phones-news-44703.php
https://www.bgr.in/news/google-qualcomm-invest-million-hmd-global-5g-phone-more-908349/
https://venturebeat.com/2020/08/11/google-and-qualcomm-join-230-million-investment-in-nokia-phone-maker-hmd-global/
It seems as though you have too much prejudice towards what you call "Chinaware" generalising all the Chinese manufacturers. Wishing them to go down were what ignorant people does and talking about baseless? Just read your own comment, it's the best example for it. :)
Someguy20, 24 Aug 2020Who had the first in display fingerprint? Vivo Who had the first motorised camera? Vivo What... moreAlso Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra is the first Smartphone with graphene Battery!
Carol, 24 Aug 2020Your claim is quite baseless. They charge as fast as they grow defektive. If their was no noki... moreAnd let's bet that HMD/Nokia would be in 3-5 Years dead because they can't make phones properly.
I have the feeling, that you can't stand the Chinese OEM's. The Truth is that Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Realme, OnePlus and even Huawei are far better than HMD/Nokia.
So bye, bye HMD/Nokia...
Carol, 24 Aug 2020I forgot to answer your question: yes i think the gap is smaller then ever between china corpo... moreYes i know nokia has a lot of expertise in networking. My earlier comments come purely from my most recent experiences. I had used a 520 and then a 730. They were very reliable and built to last. But smartphone market is the fastest evolving industry. Being out for a couple of years has surely left them with a lot to catch up which i personally feel isn't going anywhere. So after 5 years with nokia, i bought a realme with a heavy heart and I'm not disappointed at all.
Anonymous, 24 Aug 2020They're innovative. Look at them, they have 65W/120W Fast Charging, pop-up Cameras, Softw... moreYour claim is quite baseless. They charge as fast as they grow defektive. If their was no nokia, chinaware would have been nonexistend, hack even xiaomi realised they need to pay nokia for their patents if they want their phones to work. So what are you talking about? Let's make a bet chineware soon will start to go down, as they slowly have nothing to copy and well the market is oversaturated! Soon a lot of them will follow HMD decision to enter low end market, as that market is the only one being able to grow, and bring some money in the company.
A7sii, 24 Aug 2020Since when are Chinese toys innovative? They should sold to poor countries so kids can play wi... moreWho had the first in display fingerprint? Vivo
Who had the first motorised camera? Vivo
What country is vivo from? China
A7sii, 24 Aug 2020Since when are Chinese toys innovative? They should sold to poor countries so kids can play wi... moreThey're innovative. Look at them, they have 65W/120W Fast Charging, pop-up Cameras, Software and better displays.
And now look at Nokia. They still have 18W Chargers, notched Displays and outdated Specs.
No wonder why Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo and Realme selling phones or gaining Marketshare much.
You will see, Nokia, Sony and Motorola are in 5 - 7 Years dead, Apple would become the second Sony.
Anonymous, 20 Aug 2020LG is dead too.. Now Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Realme and OnePlus are innovative ones, that have im... moreSince when are Chinese toys innovative? They should sold to poor countries so kids can play with them.
I think the Nord and maybe the 4a have just rocked the potential buyers of this phone. What is its UPS? Is the camera going to beat the 4a (probably not) and it may equal or beat the Nord but is 100-150 more?
Okay so it might be corona but I don't agree with Nokia announcing a phone so early and it not going on sale within a month or two. By then it's forgotten about and the competition drowns it.
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2020Interesing explanation i must say. Now, with things getting more even like a chinese phone wit... moreI forgot to answer your question: yes i think the gap is smaller then ever between china corporates and western ones. Most problematic remaining software and actuall phone abilities. But as far as i know some of them actually bought some Nokia licenses, might be that they bought antena design ones. Still so, as i told you when you started to not be nice in nokia comment sections, i will not buy one, cause i do not support this kind of faulplay businesess. The only brand i have respect for, in that area, would be Asus. They jumped into making smartphones, like all others, but they innovate, have a theme and are not in for a quick buck. With more then 30 years on the market they are at different league as the likes of the pup-up up brands from the est. But well ,they are Taiwanese.
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2020Interesing explanation i must say. Now, with things getting more even like a chinese phone wit... moreThat is what i meant. They use the same soc, different cheapper batches with the risk of higher computing failure rate. Maybe not in their 1000€ devices (i mean i hope so) but in the likes of Poco phone for sure, and most probably all China packed devices that floaded the market at least before 2019 have low quality hardware installed. As for the 1000€ devices. Maybe they are better made with more respect for the customer, but at the price, i would rather buy anything else. Here i exclude huaway as they have decades of hardware experience. It is not like i support them, but they are not in the same basket.
Can't beleave this, on clove ik Nokia 8.3 is in shops 8 oktober, is Nokia crazy, poeole are waiting for months and dont dat is corona .I dont beleave that. Somebody is to blame for this and should be out of the job.
Carol, 21 Aug 2020Well, it is a bit complicated but i'll try. As in every manufacturing segment, in hardwar... moreInteresing explanation i must say. Now, with things getting more even like a chinese phone with a non chinese phone, we get to see the same Qualcomm SoC and same components with RAM and storage from samsung or whatever, do we really get to see a difference in the end user experience?
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Which part of the hardware do u think is 3rd class? I ask u as a genuine questionWell, it is a bit complicated but i'll try. As in every manufacturing segment, in hardware segment, especially when we talk microchip, circuits, whatever works on binary level, their are batches, or let's say, failure rate. Let's say here is the quality in 3 messures devided. First is the best, where hardware failure is almost nonexistent, let's say from 85% to 95% meets the requirements, second class meets the requirements between 70% and 85% and the last between 55% and 70. Well, The first line of batches is the most expensive, as they are controlled and meet the requirements. The second is not bad ider but they have a higher failure rate, this is mostly used by all manufacturers, because even tough it is not the greatest, it is not bad at all, and the third is well, the chippest, also with the most computing failure. At the human level this can be translated into slowdowns, glitches and rarely, system crashes. Of course this is issue is not always the hardware to blame. As there can be bugs at software level that can crash the system or slow it down. That is why is kinda hard for us to make a difference beside those times when only your device has the problem and others don't, then it is clearly a hardware failure and has less to do with software. This is just scratching the surface and quite rough said. Their are a lot of other things that do not meet the eye of the user. But anyhow, this is how chinaware is sudently cheapper the others. Just a small part from the big picture, of course.
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Which part of the hardware do u think is 3rd class? I ask u as a genuine questionWell, it is a bit complicated but i'll try. As in every manufacturing segment, in hardware segment, especially when we talk microchip, circuits, whatever works on binary level, their are batches, or let's say, failure rate. Let's say here is the quality in 3 messures devided. First is the best, where hardware failure is almost nonexistent, let's say from 85% to 95% meats the requirements, second class meats the requirements between 70% and 85% and the last between 55% and 70. Well, The first line of batches is the most expensive, as they are controlled and meet the requirements, The second is not bad ider but they have a higher failure rate, this is mostly used by all manufacturers, because even tough it is not the greatest, it is not bad at all, and the third is well, the chippest, also with the most computing failure. At the human level this can be translated into slowdowns, glitches and rarely, system crashes. Of course this is issue is not always the hardware to blame. As there can be bugs at software level that can crash the system or slow it down. That is why is kinda hard for us to make a difference beside those times when only you device has the problem and others don't then it is clearly a hardware failure and has less to do with software. This is just scratching the surface and quite rough said. Their are a lot of other things that do not meet the eye of the user. But anyhow, this is how chinaware is sudently cheapper the others. Just a small part from the big picture, of course.
Nokia should be do more on Display.Display must be in Super Amoled.
Carol, 20 Aug 2020This devices have Nokia design written all over the place. Nokia 9 is quite unique also. Pure ... moreWhich part of the hardware do u think is 3rd class? I ask u as a genuine question
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