congrats Mr Elop,
you have own the award"Error of the year" + editor choice for the half cracks lumias.
With above mentioned Spec Price should not be more than 250$. (Unlocked)
Half, 22 Nov 2011 many disadvantage for wps due its low RAM memory, single core processor cannot run l... moreStatistically wise your opinion is absurd. Tell me how many users is using high performance application you mention..? The industry can afford to ignore them.
Lumia 800 is too costly , according to the fone functional capability.
disappointed to note that the camera is just 8 mp and that too without a Xenon flash..Nokia are you listening..no card slot a big let down no FM transmitter
Never had any smart phone, but my opinion from a newbee is this one:
- WP phones look complicated with an ugly looking OS.
WP OS want to chain you into its world, like Windows for computer
- Apple phones are classy but for stupid people looking to show off their phones and don't care about not being able to do what they want with their phone. No memory card, come on...
- Android is easy and logical to use, and is for anybody. Extremely open an clever OS
That is why i am going to buy an android phone
a smartphone without micro-sd slot is just not acceptable unless it has mass memory 32gb or more than that. there must be an option to add extra memory. i use nokia N8 since it's launch. i know how quickly memory are being used up while shooting videos on n8.
phone of this category should have a secondary camera. it's true that very few people use video call. but i may use it at any point of time when i like. feature must be there it depends on the consumer whether he /she will use it or not. there are many features in the television sets of our home. do we use all of them? at least i want to have that satisfaction " i can".
Bigger display, microSD card slot, Dual Core and Xenon flash then it is another game!
MS is a mature company and it shows with how they handle their products unlike GOOGLE. Have you ever wondered how many android phones run gingerbread let alone ICS. Metro UI is fast, smooth and very responsive even with a single core n dat is what google was able to achieve with a dual core.
what happen to nokia? why always introduce low features phone, i expect more from nokia
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2011Well... I can honestly say that dual core and 1GB RAM is needed for Android devices because it... more many disadvantage for wps due its low RAM memory, single core processor cannot run latest video games, cannot operate the technology advanced applications, charged via compulsory zune services.
Android are going ahead with its dual core processor and the coming up quad core htc edge/zeta, gs3 etc by march 2012.
most probably, wps processor may not able even to touch dual core processor till its platform reach window 8(appolo), let's says 2 years frm now.
So guys ,its wise to keep silent,
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I genuinely don't understand why some people are being so over-critical of the specs. "It doesn't have a dual core processor, NFC or FFC. This phone is garbage!". Well, no. Firstly, not NFC technology is very restricted in most countries and that would probably put the cost of the phone up. It's another novelty which is designed for lazy ass people who can't be bothered to speak to someone to get their number or lift their wallet out of their pocket. "Oh but what if I don't have my wallet on me?" Then you probably shouldn't have left the institution.
Secondly, front facing cameras are a novelty and it's only the truly Apple fanboys who use them to simply claim that the ridiculous amount of money they have spent on the iPhone is justified. I've had tons of phones with FFC's and I've made 1 video call and that was just to try it out. When really could a video call be more convenient than an ordinary call? Walking down the street? No. Driving? No. In the office? No. At home? Well, there's Skype on the PC which won't eat into your data allowance. All in all FFC's are a waste of money.
So, can anyone tell me why people are complaining about dual-core processors? They may allow for better multitasking but look at the OS! Does Mango offer full multitasking functionality? No! So why complain? As far as I can tell, Mango multitasks in the same way iOS does and that never seemed to be a major problem for them, did it?
Basically, this phone is different. It's setting itself aside from other smartphone's on the market and it does it well. By not having a monster screen it can appeal to those with hands that aren't the size of spades. By not having NFC a dual core processor or a front facing camera, it keeps the cost down and by running WP7 it offers variety to consumers. I've had Android up until now and it's boring. iOS looks as if it's lacking oomph, so, in my opinion, it's nice to see something that isn't a unimaginative HTC or an overpriced Apple. Specs aren't everything and if you can't understand that then you've no concept of what matters to the everyday user. I imagine, half the people complaining about this phone haven't even tried it and just want to rate it down because they love their Android or Apple too much. It's just like what happened on Metacritic. A bunch of BF3 fanboys rating down MW3 without even playing it. Wake up and smell the Mango! This is a good phone*!
*this statement was not in reference to the battery which should have been improved, significantly.
th3D, 21 Nov 2011yeah right, and u wanna make people believe that WP is compatible with Windows PC apps? Its a ... moreIf you read the previous posts, the comparison was with "Document Editing" of MS Office Docs on WP versus Android, not WP and the full MS Office app on a PC. For sure, there are plenty of features of MS Office 2010 that you cannot access when editing on WP. But editing and saving Office docs on WP then opening them back up on a PC runs a lot less risk of scrambling your formatting than alternative apps on any platform. Even Open Office on a desktop misses the mark at times. Somehow, WP's Office document editing apps know what features they can't replicate, and then don't try to.
No comment on the N900. I'm talking about the average consumer smartphone here, which is what the Lumia 800 is, not power user devices.
WP OS looks promising to me...
But I would not recommend this to anybody right now. But users can look for the next WP version (WP 8 or Tango or what ever they call it) if all the below short comings and restrictions are sorted out:-
1. Support for Micro SD card slot (even though it affects the performance as MS assumes); an option should be provided to the manufacturers. Let them decide whether to go for it not. MS can put restrictions like; messages, contacts, UI elements, ringtones, alert tones, apps etc to be placed only in the internal memory. External card can be used only as a dump for Music, Videos, Pics, docs etc.
2. Bluetooth file transfers (Ok.. Wifi Direct might replace BT in future, but still it takes at least 2 years from now).
3. Removal of Zune dependency. Again let the manufacturers decide how users can transfer and sync the media content. If MS feels that an enthusiastic user tries to play MKV video of high bit rate which could not be done without deteriorating the device's performance, just put proper capping on the video formats/file sizes/bit rates that would pop a message like - "File could not be played due to high bit rate.. use Zune to transfer the file and try again". This is just an example.
4. Allow implementing custom UI's to manufacturers. The tiles thing is ok for me.. But most of the people are shying away from WP due to this. Let the users decide which UI they prefer with a simple setting. If opening this to OEMs will affect the WP performance, they can allow all the custom UIs and their related themes to be offered to users via MS’s own market after rigorous testing.
5. In general perception, a MS product is always priced a bit too high. Price the apps reasonably.
The bottom line is - Do not go totally in either the Apple's way or the Android's way. They have already occupied those two extreme ends and it is difficult to conquer either of them. The middle path (Proper control on the device with calculated liberty to users/OEMs) is better in my opinion
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2011I want 3 inch screen, not bigger. many woman wants smaller screens and of course all the ordin... more3 inch screen? That is ridiculously small for a smartphone. I would never buy a smartphone that is that small. Around 4 inches should be the standard size.
such a shame..
After ownin this phone for 5 days on Voda UK i am sending it back.
UI is very good and smooth, the built in sat nav "nokia Drive" is brilliant locks on in about 10 seconds and very easy to use! camera was good enough for what i use. app store was good enough not as good as app store for andriod or apple. screen and touchscreen are very good as well.
problem with this phone is battery!! its awful!
didnt even last 24 hrs without any usuage!!! i left it in my house went on a night out picked it up mid day next day and it was dead. terrible.
think ill wait for next ms phone from nokia
Raju, 22 Nov 2011People just get attracted to the word Dual Core Processor and 1GB RAM. But in fact it is just ... moreWell... I can honestly say that dual core and 1GB RAM is needed for Android devices because it lags A LOT and I know from experience. On the other hand, WP devices don't need that kind If specs at the moment because Metro UI is very simple and is smooth on a single core. I hear that the future Apollo update will bring dual core and higher screen resolutions. Microsoft said they haven't found a way to optimize the second core. At the moment it's fine without it.
gayankap, 22 Nov 2011they should've made this thing with a 4 inch display at least - and the released prize tag is ... moreI want 3 inch screen, not bigger. many woman wants smaller screens and of course all the ordinary people. It will be more common with smaller screens. You will see.