Nokia N8 - user opinions and reviews
- Anonymous
- t1{
Let's start with the CPU. Symbian
handle processes like no other OS on
mobile hardware. Multi tasks is a core
functionality of this OS and a more
powerful hardware is not needed to
do it well. Plus a simpler chip design means less power needed with recent
silicon burning technologies. Warning,
I'm talking about low level stuff, not
user interface and apps. You're right,
how a CPU 50% faster than the one on
the n97 is going to allow me to have smooth kinetic scrolling while I am
listening to music??? (people with a
5800 or a n97 know that kinetic
scrolling is rendered at 5 FPS in this
case, 100% of CPU is used). The
answer lies within the GPU, a BCM2727 chip. N8 USES The BCM2727 chip is really powerful.
Just take a look at this PDF file: http:// www.curiouscat.org/Steve/
Media/2727-PB01-R.pdf
Some interesting points about this
chip. First it does everything. It
encodes and decodes audio, video,
jpeg on it's own and is capable of
displaying 42 millions of triangles! All
these tasks that relied on the CPU for Symbian^1 devices can now be done
by the Broadcom GPU with SYmbian^3
(thank to the new graphic
architecture). So what will the CPU
have to do then ? Handling threads,
sending instructions and other core OS functionalities. A domain where
Symbian is really good.
But that's not all. Look at the memory.
The BCM2727 had 32 MB of SDRAM
built-in! Now that's REALLY interesting.
Why? Because the GPU doesn't pollute the Ram with textures for example, it
does it with its local memory. Access
times are also lower. Also very
interesting, the GPU and the CPU can
READ/WRITE at the same time(two
memories, two memory controllers)! I doubt this is possible with the single
chip design of the TI OMAP, but I may
be wrong. What if it needs more than
32MB of memory? I guess it can still
use the ram, although it will be slower.
And last but not least, it is frugal in terms of power consumption. Once
again, look at the number in the PDF.
60 hours of music playback, 3 hours
of video capture. Remember the two
days of music playback announced by
Nokia ? That's where it comes from. So yeah, the Broadcom BCM2727 is a
vey powerful chip and not so power
angry at the same time, great for
audio, 3D games, photos and videos.
And he is working with great partners. These partners are of course the new
Carl Zeiss optics and the "super"
sensor of the N8 camera. They are so
good that Nokia almost disable all
kind of digital processing (look at
Damian Dinning articles). And the few digital processes is done by the
Broadcom chip? I guess that's why the
N8 camera is lightning fast!
- Anonymous
- m7I
[deleted post]You dont know anything about this, so no need to post so long posts about it. HTC Desire Z has a 800MHz processor because it is a second gen snapdragon chipset. It is faster than the old 1GHz Snapdragons in some things, plus it has improved graphics performance. Htc Desire Z is fast, for normal use its faster than SGS, more responsive. Because GPU dont mean cr@p for normal fone usage, teh GPU cannot accellerate normal tasks, it can onli improve graphical features and effects. For menu animation even a 3 year old GPU is overpowered. Then we come to games, then N8 has a good performance thanks to the GPU.
But 800MHz has nothing to do with HTC being moderate, HTC knows what people want and need, and they give it to them. MSM 7230 is good balance between very high performance and power saving. When not playing games this has at least 2.5x speed advantage over N8, i dont think that qualifies as "optimizing for less hardware", its rather a move to the latest and greatest, and thats an area where HTC is king, they been leading the way for others both in early adoption of both new hardware and software, and especialy did a remarkable job in getting out usable Android fones at an early point. Not to mention how few issues HTC has on their fones even before first firmware update, no doubt they have the best engineers and the best programmers.
- him
- t1{
N8 gpu is best.
Link-
http://broadcom.com/products/Cellular/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2727
- him
- t1{
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2011ignorkar ignorkar, ye sala he apka silencer. Don't raise the expectation men, I'm sure the upd... moreoye phudideya.
Proof
link-http://mynokiablog.com/2011/01/08/rumours-nokia-n9-being-announced-at-mwc-in-6-weeks-time-more-n9x7-gossip/
Arm 11 can be easily clock to 1ghz.
S^4 update will clock it to 900mhz.
- him
- t1{
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2011ignorkar ignorkar, ye sala he apka silencer. Don't raise the expectation men, I'm sure the upd... moreoye phudideya.
Proof
link-http://mynokiablog.com/2011/01/08/rumours-nokia-n9-being-announced-at-mwc-in-6-weeks-time-more-n9x7-gossip/
Arm 11 can be easily clock to 1ghz.
S^4 update will clock it to 900mhz.
- him
- t1{
N8 GPU being a Broadcom unit-Broadcom
BCM2727 gpu
That Broadcom GPU does 32 Million
Polygons a second!!!! That beats the
The Cortex A8 used in the N900 AND iPhone4 when comparing
polygons per second.
Source
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=21904.0
http://frendzforum.org/forum/showthreads-44-0-2482549+n8-uses-broadcom-BCM2727-multimedia-processor-aka-GPU.htm
- Anonymous
- k1H
him, 09 Jan 2011u will come to know when updates will release. First update will clock cpu to 735mhz.i am in ... moreignorkar ignorkar, ye sala he apka silencer. Don't raise the expectation men, I'm sure the update is going to be cool, but i believe some code optimization would give the performance that they want. Any android user will say 680 Mhz is underpowered coz they can't simply have a usable android in a processor that is less than 600 Mhz. Even the 1 Ghz of Xperia X10 is regarded as laggy.
- him
- t1{
N8 and all s^3 has world top GPU and is capable of showing 60fps compare to 15fps in s^1.
- him
- t1{
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2011you are dreaming, and no1 believe you. Anyway, 900MHz for an Arm11 is still twice as slow as s... moreu will come to know when updates will release.
First update will clock cpu to 735mhz.i am in this field .
. It delivers extreme low power and a range of
performance from 350 MHz in small
area designs up to 1 GHz in speed.
One of the nice things about
Symbian^3 is that hardware
acceleration has shifted a lot the work
load to the GPU.
Frame rates have jumped from 15fps
in Symbian^1 to 60fps in Symbian^3.
s^3 phones can be clock to 1Ghz.
- Anonymous
- k1H
garry, 09 Jan 2011Nokia Iseries is coming next year .first nokia i10 specifications:-
14.2 mp camera with xenon... moreGuys, please keep rumors aside from this forum
This is Damian dinning's words for a question
NC: We know you’re still working on the camera software. Could you give us any hints on what we might expect in the next version?
DD: I’m afraid not. I’d rather not promise anything at this stage only later to possibly disappoint people if we find we can’t overcome all the technical challenges we need to. However, I can say we’ve been listening very intently to the feedback and that it is all going into current and future product development. Please keep the feedback coming.
So don't spoil the reputation of Nokia by spreading rum0rs.
In a side Note to @Him
There are some serious work going on in Nokia indicated by their silence in CES 2011. There are preparing a killer device to answer all that announced in CES and will be announced in MWC. It is well clear from a comment by a Nokia employee in an article about LTE, he says, "who knows which company is going to ship the first device". Even though lets keep rumors aside. Rumors can only make the expectation high and result in a disappointment.
- Anonymous
- k1H
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2011you are dreaming, and no1 believe you. Anyway, 900MHz for an Arm11 is still twice as slow as s... moreOk i guess this is what you are trying to say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth
Cool, it in most places comes as a supporting fact for Nokia N8, given that it has a dedicated GPU to handle most of it tasks, and Symbian's ability to utilize the processor technology.
"Much has been made of the N8's use of a 680MHz processor in a 1GHz world, but those numbers are predictably beguiling. The N8 has a separate Broadcom GPU alongside its ARM 11 processing core, which takes over when things get graphically intense and delivers performance that rarely left us feeling underpowered. Couple that with Symbian^3 being able to exploit the graphics processor to perform hardware-accelerated OS animations and graphics, and grunt should altogether be quite adequate for the tasks the N8 is intended to perform. 720p movies were certainly no challenge for this phone. A lot more worthy of critique might be the 256MB memory allowance, which halves what other new phones are coming out with, but again, the argument can be made that Symbian^3 is an inherently more efficient platform and the lower number on the spec sheet doesn't seem to have had a correspondingly negative impact on real world use"
An extract from Engadget review, the people who criticize the N8 most will be enough to clear your myth i guess. (remember Engadget is often pointed as iPhone fanboy and they just has a little to no care for Nokia).
I appreciate you for never giving up trashing on Nokia (in all the forums, N8, E7 and so on even after you got clearer explanations for each of your trashes).
- gitty
- s8g
how to load the files in signsis ? Theres no option to browse !
- deep space bar
- q}@
him, 09 Jan 2011i thing may or may not all language will be supported.
As my national language is hindi.
It ... morethey should have it
hand writing like they use to on s60 5th for all the languages
like mandarin,cantonese,korean,japanese,hindu
like all those cause i remember if you change the product number you can get them nokia should just make it all universal for less problems
- Anonymous
- kUW
NOKIA ! please we want 1gzh and 512 ram and 2Gb rom , with symbian , we are using symbian more then 5 or 6 years we love symbian and nokia ,, we will never use android ,,,, please nokia 512ram 1ghz 2gbrom syMbian^1 or symbian ^3
- Anonymous
- m7I
[deleted post]you are dreaming, and no1 believe you. Anyway, 900MHz for an Arm11 is still twice as slow as snapdragon at 800MHz-1GHz. Theres no way to clock the N8 to a modern performance level, you need 2GHz to make it compete with 1GHz snapdragon. Clockspeed isnt everyting, IPC is (instructions per clock), and Arm11 has half the IPC of modern processors. Plus they are lower clocked, so all in all you get an exceptionally slow CPU by todays standard.
- him
- Hkr
deep space bar, 09 Jan 2011hey bro i have a question
in the 50+ enhancements
do you think nokia will had unicode t... morei thing may or may not all language will be supported.
As my national language is hindi.
It is not supported in s^3 phones,s60v3 and v5.it is supported in only s40.
General language use by nokia are.
Chinese,french,spanish,finnish,russian,dutch,arabi etc.
- him
- Hkr
vishal, 09 Jan 2011Thanks for info. But i want a dedicated chm reader as i want to read my medical books. They ar... moreWM Means windows mobile.
Ok .
I thought u want for N8.as i havnt ursed WM And a long s60v3 user.
link-
pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-chmreader-2003-1-0.html
another link-
chm-reader-for-windows-mobile-6.5.fyxm.net/
similar problem like u r facing.
link-
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-729215.html
if none of them works then i am postings links for chm to any format.
I thing mobipocket reader might work in ur mobile.
Link-
mobipocket.com/en/downloadsoft/productdetailsreader.asp
for ur PC there is a convertor.
Link-
processtext.com/abcchm.html
another link-
ehow.com/way_5179229_chm-pdf-conversion.html
if u able to convert ur chm to pdf then download foxit reader for WM
Link-
foxitsoftware.com/pdf/mobile/
just add "http://" before these url
i hope this will help.
If not then i suggest u to buy a new s^3 mobile.
- deep space bar
- q}@
[deleted post]hey bro i have a question
in the 50+ enhancements
do you think nokia will had unicode to the keyboards cause pentaband phone thinking should of had it like the N900
i just hope they add that feature with all language cause it will help nokia alot with sales
- sdg
- bJ6
hey guys i got black n8 yesterday. Can anybody tell me what is hyperx . How to get it ? Link please.
- vishal
- wdM
him, 09 Jan 2011download opera 5.1 beta symbian edition s60v3.it will work on N8. I am using opera 5.1 symbia... moreThanks for info. But i want a dedicated chm reader as i want to read my medical books. They are quite big and cannot be converted to pdf and used. Also they are not available on wattpad. Is wattpad app useful for opening stored chm books? I am currently using microOLAP app for WM 6.1 for reading books. Million thanks in advance.
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