Stupid me, 10 Sep 2013Interesting topics you brought up! Well, that NSA situation is too shameful and disgusting for... moreThanks, got Skype on my phone and exchanged a few messages with a friend from USA. Works. Got to try talking some day. I had no idea what my password was so I tried my "generic" username and password and it worked. :-) Good thing it can be shut down completely, though I don't see an option to minimize it but okay, I just go to the menu and leave Skype running. It's available at the Store again so I guess the unavailability a few weeks ago was just a glitch. Hmmm, you don't need a webcam to talk, just get one of those headsets with headphones + microphone. I used to use my big headphones plus a cheap "karaoke" microphone, no problems with that. :-) What is "magic jack"?
I think I have all the apps stored now, one big folder. I should delete some, no need for 15 update versions of the same app. Grrr, my relative told me someone offered him an N8 a while ago for something like 50 Euro, I wish he told me and now I'd have a spare one. I hate the thought of my phone dying some day and then looking for a new one. There's not much of a choice nowadays, at least not for me. Took me a year to find this one. If something works for me, I+ll keep it as long as it works, regardless of what else is out there. Yep Symbian is safer because it is a phone first and "smart"phone second. I can use it as a normal phone, it doesn't depend on clouds or ads or any kind of data. The same goes for S40 or other "dumb"phones. Android is a mess but at least they are honest, when you accept their "terms of service" you know your data is now public property. :-) Apple and Microsoft, not so sure. I think Microsoft deletes your gathered data after 6 months while Google just keeps them forever. And some Android users have no idea where 30% of their data goes. I'm quite sure not a byte escapes my N8 without my permission. :-) Well, some European countries are more expensive than the others, of course. I was in Bulgaria some years ago and it was really cheap, and I thought we are cheap compared to, dunno, The Netherlands. But the wages are lower there too. Hah, I think that USA, EU and Russia all think that the future is not too bright for the other ones. :-) In reality, only Chinese economy is going up and I guess the Scandinavians are having a good life as they never complain. Except when they lose the biggest and the best phone company in the world. :-/
@ K.K. I'm sorry if our conversation buried your question! I hope someone can give you an answer. I looked at the N8 disassembly on ifixit, seems complicated but there's a few steps they didn't show.
Hi friends, its almost a year m owning
this cell & stil m in Love with it. N8
serves my every purpose & never lets
me down at any point of time. But i got
a tiny bulge at the left body of it. & its
not looking nice. So i wanna ask that has any1 changed the body panel of the
cell ?? I have dark grey N8 & want a
silver body panel. So wanna ask that has
any1 changed it & from Where can i get it & how much can it cost ?? And if i buy online, then which site is more preferable to buy from as there is
always a risk of getting duplicates.
MdN, 09 Sep 2013Good rainy evening :-)
Yes, I'm glad there will be some support. I don't expect huge updates,... moreInteresting topics you brought up! Well, that NSA situation is too shameful and disgusting for words! I don’t think any private person can ever feel happy/comfortable about being spied upon, their privacy invaded and their private affairs snatched away (very frightening, I think) – and to think that is pursued so extensively and enthusiastically and considered perfectly acceptable by NSA! The clandestine operators are now circumventing surveillance by operating deep within the cracks and crevices unseen and unheard, as they use private servers operating from S Africa and elsewhere. So, who are really being surveilled if the supposed targets are evading the eyes and ears?
About the “extremist” reference - I read somewhere that the Symbian OS provides the most protection against surveillance, thus the preference for Nokia phones by those elements. It sounds funny, but what the NSA official said is true (the” zombies” tickled me). Even Blackberry was cracked twice, I think, but android users seem to be the most vulnerable. Interesting article, btw.
The future does not look too bright for the EU but I hope that your country benefits from the inclusion. Hope you took some photos of the celebrations. Yeah, I did find Europe rather expensive. I could not even buy a souvenir. And we got lost in Belgium :-D. We were so late for dinner we forgot to write down the name of the hotel or grab a card. Women again! We wandered away from the group and got properly lost. That was horrors as the night went on, because the police spoke to us in French and we could not understand each other at all. OK. Do I see a smile now? ;-) I think I do.
MdN, 09 Sep 2013Good rainy evening :-)
Yes, I'm glad there will be some support. I don't expect huge updates,... moreOf course I use Skype on my N8 - and when I close it off, it stays off, unlike Whatsapp which refused to completely close off. I uninstalled it at your advice since it was draining my battery. I also use Skype for messaging sometimes. I prefer the PC for Skype though, but my current PC does not have a web cam.....yet :-) so the other party can’t hear me - so I have to use my N8. Most times, I do a combo – I talk through the N8 (on the desk) and listen through the PC speakers (better than using the magic jack). :-))) Too funny, but we have to be resourceful sometimes to get the most out of what we have! I use the phone alone only for short conversations or if I have to move around. The first time when I tried to sign in with this new PC (May), there I was, fingers poised over the keyboard, only to realize that I could not remember password, name, nothing after almost a year! :-) Steups! I had to start all over. If the erratic electricity zaps this PC to death too, I won’t be losing much like the last one.
Hm! I think that everyone who has the N8 should make the contingency plan of storing downloaded apps on their PC’s, just-in-case. I lost some stuff and now have to again download to my PC all my wish list apps. Plus I have to do over all the info I had saved about the N8 from this site, including the Belle update. So I have some work ahead of me to check some “back” pages, but I really don’t have the energy, inclination or motivation right now. Have a good day and I sent someone to watch over you. :-)
Stupid me, 09 Sep 2013Good morning MdN. I could not resist posting because this is the best news ever to start the d... moreGood rainy evening :-)
Yes, I'm glad there will be some support. I don't expect huge updates, but a bug fix here and there, Nokia Store, Nokia Suite, possibility to reinstall software if something happens etc. To tell you the truth, the other day I downloaded most of my favorite free apps from the Store to my PC "just in case" I need them again and can't find them. I hope I won't need them. People on the net are posting joke rumors... Someone said we're getting a huge OS update in December called "Jingle Belle" :-) I know it's a joke but I wasn't laughing. Anyway, most of the apps I use are about functionality and geekiness and they all work well, so even if support stopped today I'd be fine, I guess. I'm not too dependant on the internet on my N8 so if Whatsapp stops working I won't notice, but I do hope Opera Mini keeps their support. It still works on my 2007 Symbian phone... Tell me, you're using Skype? When you exit, does it exit completely or keeps nagging about internet connection? I have a Skype account but haven't tried it on my phone yet.
I think the media and the makers are underestimating those "me too" phones. According to Wikipedia there's 6.8 billion mobile phones in use today. So, Android sold a billion (who knows how many are still in use), Apple sold a few hundred million, just like Symbian. Then there's WP, Bada, BlackBerry... but all of them together probably aren't enough for one billion. So there's 5 billion people with non-smartphones and everyone just wants to talk about and sell smartphones? Strange this. If they just made a normal phone with good battery and camera I bet it would sell well among normal people, but not right away but when their 2005-phone-still-works dies. Oh, funny news today, according to The Register and German media, NSA guys think it's funny how people pay for the equipment they use to spy on them, and they said iPhone users are zombies and they call Steve Jobs "Big Brother" while the Nokia users are "extremists". Lol.
Heh, we have expensive phones, expensive data and expensive talk and the country is in economic crisis. We just entered the EU so things should get cheaper, but not sure about the wages. Well hey, looks like you've made things work. My parents have two mobile phones so when one's prepaid time expires they can still receive calls and messages for 3 months, but they buy a top-up for the other one so they can make calls and send texts for 3 months. Hmmm, it's easier than I can describe it, but basically I can always get them both, but they pay like they would pay for one phone. The money we save goes for more important stuff, like dog food. :-D As for landlines, changed the operator and totally glad I did. Used to spend 3 times more on dial-up than I do on DSL now, but our phone operators (all 3 of them) agreed not to lower the prices unless the government does something about it. Feeling a little better, thanks, just looking for stuff to do to keep my mind off this. A few days ago I got updates for 2 of my favorite apps, Belle Extra Buttons and CameraPro, in one day, both got some extra functionality. So, things are still moving. :-) Well I hope you do get the Belle update some day. Just think of the extra buttons! :-)
MdN, 09 Sep 2013Nokia sales boss confirms that Symbian will be supported until 2016:
http://conversations.nok... moreGood morning MdN. I could not resist posting because this is the best news ever to start the day! So there is a little while yet for the Nokia journey and I’ve got to make up my mind quickly about a few things about my N8.
I was so horrified to think that my beloved N8 would join the pile of my other phones that can only be used for calling and texting. Here’s the joke about them. There were some great introductions and fierce competition between our two service providers some time back. I mean like they were giving away phones to put one in everybody’s hands. We joked about it saying that now, every vagrant had a phone :-). We called them “Me too” phones. It was like, “Oh, you have that phone, me too.” Everyone rushed the Nokia phones because of Nokia’s quality and good name. I still see Nokia’s “Me too” phones around while the others have disappeared. That says a lot about the durability of Nokia phones!!!!
Then the land line rates went sky high and I had to make and receive lots of calls at that time so it was real hard on the pocket. There was also a pre-paid deal of double the value for the first top-up for the month. So I looked at the whole picture. It was like getting free batteries too, so if one battery died, you just made a switch. So I ended up buying a few so my calls would be half price with the bonuses. It worked out great as I also had to make weekly overseas calls (now I use Skype or Magic Jack for those). So, I/we would systematically use up the money from the phones one after the other (and stopped using the land line). I could have simply bought a few Sims and achieve the same thing, but it was too troublesome to be constantly switching and you got a free Sim with the phone anyway.
You’re supposed to laugh at my genius :-)! Hope you are feeling more cheerful and had a good night’s rest. Actually, I should be the one worrying like hell because I still have to face the Belle upgrade which scares me. You HAVE the goods already to do as you please. This latest Nokia update ought to cheer you up at least! ;-)
Nokia sales boss confirms that Symbian will be supported until 2016:
was it is true if in that case is it is a proper time buy nokia n8 bcoz nokia n8 is symbian v3.0 so pls can any one help me
Hi friends, its almost a year m owning this cell & stil m in Love with it. N8 serves my every purpose & never lets me down at any point of time. But i got a tiny bulge at the left body of it. & its not looking nice. So i wanna ask that has any1 changed the body panel of the cell ?? I have dark grey N8 & want a silver body panel. So wanna ask that has any1 changed it & from Where can i get it & how much can it cost ?? And if i buy online, then which site is more preferable to buy from as there is always a risk of getting duplicates.
UMRAZ, 09 Sep 2013N8
Superb battery life
Clear and crisp screen
Decent audio out... moreAnd finally, the CONCLUSION, after sweating through your dissertation! I’ll make it short and sweet for you!
It is the BEST phone for the budget conscious customer. Name one android phone for $200 - $250 (brand new and unlocked) with the capability of the N8 and we will condescend to consider it. No problem, we’ll go with Amazon prices.
The N8 will outlive Nokia, the company, by MANY years because it was built to LAST and furthermore, it will be a collector’s item. In addition, there are apps (and space for them) to improve on performance to your satisfaction.
Nokia sales boss confirms that Symbian will be supported until 2016:
Superb battery life
Clear and crisp screen
Decent audio output
Stylish aluminium casing
smart dialing pad: either start typing a number to see it spring up, or use the number pad as a T9 predictive text-style operation and the names will come up that way too – nice touch.
being able to find numbers in the text - although you'll need to activate the 'Automatic Find' mode
can automatically subscribe to an RSS feed from this icon pane
If there's any area that the Nokia N8 is going to excel at, it's on the camera, and thankfully, it does just that impressive is the sound recording
best quality seemed to come from WMV files
We managed to view Xvid, DivX, MP4 and AVI files
dedicated camera key
awesome 12.1mp hd camera & 16:9 720p HD video record
video high/med/low resolution quality
contacts option for sync,copy sim nos
merge 2 contacts
bluetooth visibility options for blockd/paired devices
mobile data usage
installations already installed
signed/all soft installd
mesgs shows in groups
say callers name 3D ringtone
notes can be saved in drafts
notification bar-mobile data,wifi,nluetooth,silent
mesg conversation/folder view
long press to stop active programs
display off while keeping near ears in calling
Average virtual keyboards
Unimpressive internet experience
Confusing connection management
Poor social network integration
Nokia N8 also doesn't have a removable battery either
no noise cancelling on offer, despite the noise reduction tool being used in the HD video capture.
despite having a 3.5-inch screen, it should be a 12-key multi-tap option in portrait mode on the Nokia N8.
suggested alternative word doesn't automatically fill in when you mis-type
when the word autocompletes pressing space does not confirm it, you have to hit the right arrow, which again disrupts flow
default Conversations mode will only show numbers and not names
hitting the correct areas to enter names, number or the message are a little hard to do.
only options on the phone for social networking are Twitter and Facebook, which is fine as these are the only ones most people use anyway.
no option to post a photo to Facebook or Twitter from the camera
pinch-zooming is nowhere near as accurate
you only get two options when zooming in on text
However, with more Flash-heavy videos, like those shown on the BBC website, the Nokia N8 struggles a lo
it would have been nice to see an option to turn off Flash video on the Nokia N8 to see faster web page loading times.
screens render well enough and relatively quickly (especially over Wi-Fi)
cant watch videos properly wen headphone is plugged
Bluetooth 3.0 3.4MB file took 34 seconds to transfer
cant play FLV directly in video player
cant change pics continuously
sort by no 2 options for name,size,date
cant rename/delete system default folders
camera no key for AF
cant off / silent camera captured tone
small key to change front n rear camera
contacts no setting to display name & no
Hav to install theme to select in profile
Notes keeps arranging by date if we open it again n again
doesent show no of notes
no option for pause in recorder
no scientific calculator
equal equal confuse
cant add 2 nos in 1contact
no slide view in menu like android
mesg qwerty v.small
no task manager
no mark delete for call logs
I have tried to download games from many sites, but some of them r too bad or doesnt install.
From where I can get HD games?
At least a good quality game. How to download ?
Stupid me, 08 Sep 2013EXCELLENT! There is such a song in my heart today – to see everybody back on track after the w... moreHey, thanks for the great words, but i ain't that GREAT:)). Anyways, i'm sure you will not get any problems upgrading it. By the way: welcome back!:)
Sadiq, 08 Sep 2013How to download line....???LINE is only available for Nokia Asha. Not sure if it works with symbian. Try pretending you have an Asha when you go to nokia store.
Stupid me, 08 Sep 2013EXCELLENT! There is such a song in my heart today – to see everybody back on track after the w... moreWoo-hoo, nice to have you back! Yes, Nokia is dead - long live the N8. I'm surprised with the amount of comments, and just when I think I should take a break as I don't want my comments to take up the whole page, a new one appears. The daily interest is lower, but maybe it's because there's no more "related phones" option (come on, GSMArena, I was using it...). So, after a few emotional days, little sleep and with gloomy clouds in my head even today, I went on and finally uploaded some more music to my phone, some 220 tracks, only my favorite songs. That's a beginning. Now I'm thinking of changing my wrist strap to something else... I have a finger strap, a better finger strap and a carabiner-type thing. Got them all as a present but there's a problem in that they all have the Samsung logo. :-/
Don't worry, we'll come to the theme subject soon enough. It took me a while to learn some things about modding them by trial/error but to Nokia's credit nothing I did harmed any of my phones... Yet. :-) Anyway, you can install any theme on your phone, it will change all the elements but of course their position will stay the same. And if it's a good one it will change most of the icons too, and I like that as a lot of apps don't have the Anna/Belle icons. The one I'm using now (Fascination by IND190) is just perfect from every angle, and with a new wallpaper it's unique and just mine. Heh, relatives. One of mine was trying to make me buy an Android instead and even gave me one to try for a few days, but in the end I got the N8 which I only tried for a few minutes. One of the things I was impressed with was the haptic feedback (obviously the first thing you notice when you tap on anything) which I'm still using and loving. The same thing on Android is a joke (just a "bzzzz"), and iPhone and Lumia don't even have it. Like touching a dead thing. So... Hope you had a nice trip and see you around. ;-)
EXCELLENT! There is such a song in my heart today – to see everybody back on track after the week’s revelations and sadness over the demise of Nokia and of course the N8 and whatever. We will make our choices now, with the understanding that there is no more Nokia - but the N8 lives on!!! Cheers to that!
We do have to move on, that is life. You will truly live in my heart, ALL of you. What a group! Keep up the good work advising N8 fans and THANKS for all the help and encouragement. You know, a beloved relative (pretty knowledgeable about electronics etc and way above my head) once advised me against buying the N8 when I was looking at which touch phone I should buy. He did not think I could manage Symbian and steered me to other easier systems. Imagine that!!! But I was determined that I wanted the N8 and he was shocked that I still went ahead and bought it. Yeah! At one point I thought maybe I made the wrong choice, but I soon overcame that.
Carol, your knowledge of electronics is so extensive, it is mind-boggling. I always enjoyed an encounter with a sharp, logical, and practical mind although I didn’t always come out the better for it. But that’s OK. You must be tops in whatever field you’re in, I am sure! With this new development, I am rethinking the Belle upgrade since more apps will be available with Belle and I've got to pack them in. Hope I don’t encounter any problems.
MdN, it seems you are doing a FABULOUS job with the themes, what with over 700,000 downloads in eighteen months. That’s IMPRESSIVE! It must be real technical and require creativity to modify existing ones and create something different and attractive that so many people liked and downloaded. Sorry I did not get a chance to see them. Maybe one day I will ask you to help me pick out a really nice one for my phone - as soon as can figure out about it. Oh dear, that may be never because I don’t know a darn thing about it. Hm! I would have enjoyed shocking my relative :-). I was so mad at him recently but that’s now in the past and when I spoke with him yesterday, he already knew about the Nokia sellout! There is one other person I would have liked to mention, but I’d better not.
Yes, I will continue with the SAGA of the N8 however I am able and GOOD LUCK to all of you and stay as sweet as you are.
Carol, 07 Sep 2013Nothing will be changed in your phone. So everything you do now, you will always be able to do... moreThanks for your reply. Seems to me then, I had better grab whatever I can get from the store now since I am not sure what will be available in the future. It's a relief to know that the N8 will continue to serve me because I have NO intentions of replacing it if it is fully functional. Good to know that whatever I put in it will continue to work until it dies of natural causes - that's enough for me.
Carol, 07 Sep 2013Nothing will be changed in your phone. So everything you do now, you will always be able to do... moreI'm hoping the Store will stay because they still need it for S40, but I don't hope for many updates. Recently they started allowing new themes only from a few selected makers and the rest got a 'goodbye' email.
Maps... Steve from AllAboutSymbian said he plans to make a map database to put on his website, and invited people to send him maps from their phones/countries, but so far it's just an idea. But if the maps are some day no longer officially available from Nokia - at least it's a plan.