Stupid me, 31 Jul 2013I will have to revisit Nokia Suite and do over the backup and rename them as Carol said. I'll ... moreIt should be in My Documents - Nokia Suite - Backups, that's where mine are stored. But it doesn't hurt re-doing it. ;-) Well it depends, the 808 had one update too, it had Belle and now it has Belle fp2 so if you got one with the earlier version you'd still have to make an update. That phone is still around $550 here so I can only dream about it. Well, I have a shop window dummy model of the PureView so I at least know what it feels like to hold it, haha. I see people have some problems with it, and a few things are a bit better on the N8 but still I want it some day.
Oh well, I don't think it's too "pro" if you get a few apps to make stuff work easier and faster. For example I lock my N8 by tapping on an icon, unlock it by a two-finger swipe, also I got an app that turns the camera on when I press the camera key (when the phone is locked), I have some fun camera apps, a torch, games, gadgety stuff, trying different browsers etc. Mostly stuff that makes it more efficient. Oh, and Belle Extra Buttons, best app ever (you get two extra buttons at the bottom to a total of five, you can assign anything to them via long or short press), blah, blah. But you need Belle for it, obviously, but we'll get there soon enough. :-) And my geekiest app must be the one that synchronizes the clock to an atomic clock via the internet. :-D
Carol's method is a bit longer than just hitting "gimme my update" but safer, you'll get more free space and freshly installed software without possible bugs and the apps you probably won't need (Like, Office Suite is cool but a bit slow, there's a better alternative). It's not too hard, just read it and blindly follow what Nokia Suite tells you. And good luck. ;-)
MdN, 30 Jul 2013Okay I haven't done this myself as Belle was already there, but I think the phone manager is c... moreI will have to revisit Nokia Suite and do over the backup and rename them as Carol said. I'll probably have to delete the first back-up of everything which had taken quite a while to complete. I don't even know where it went so I'll have to look for it (unless it shows up only when the phone is connected to the PC).
I will really have to proceed slowly on this one to make sure I get it right. Such a pity I could not have just bought the Pure View 808 you spoke of, instead. It would have had everything installed. But $155US is a whole $1000.00 here! It would not have made sense either since I won't use most of the things on it. That's for you pros. With or without Belle, I just love this phone - and now my sis is sorry she was not adventurous enough to get one too, now that she sees I'm coming along with it, thanks to you folks.
Carol, 30 Jul 2013Ok, from the beginning. I already told you, you really have to stop worry. All you can do is t... moreWow! Thanks ever so much for giving me the step-by-step process which I am sure took up quite a bit of your time. I am indeed grateful. I am sure it is helpful to others too! There are going to be people carefully reading this I am sure, because not everybody is an electronic pro!
I will get a hard copy printed because I can't rely on my memory once everything shuts down. I also need to read through the procedure a few times because the whole thing is like Greek to me.
Now! Do you see why I'm afraid to tackle this on my own! I have read enough comments all over the net about people complaining of various things not working (including the camera) after the updating and wanting to go backwards. I am sure they were clueless people like me, who were just merrily tapping or clicking away without knowing what they were doing. My policy - when in doubt, find out!!!!!
We are so fortunate to have people like you and MdN who are always so willing to share your knowledge and help us geeks.
I found the n8 quiet amazing as to wat it can do i had it for 2months and al of a suden i couldnt turn it on or off gt seems that the button wouldnt work any one else had this problem cheers
AnonD-131418, 28 Jul 2013please help!!!!can nokia n8 use wechat,whatssapp,line???...i want to buy this phone....Yes but camera oooooo
Stupid me, 29 Jul 2013MdN & Carol
OK. I'm tackling Belle now. I just backed up EVERYTHING on Nokia Suite. Wil... moreOk, from the beginning. I already told you, you really have to stop worry. All you can do is to destroy your files, which i presume, you backed up.
1. That memory that is shown in windows a 0, it is the ROM which is locked. Locked memory cannot be written by windows and therefore it will show you it's full. Meaning you are not able to write something on it. So to say, put a closed (closed means you cannot write any files further on it, the burner closed it even though, maybe still has some free space left) dvd inside your pc and see how much space is left. That will be 0 bytes. Hope you understood the theory.
Now, what windows says does not matter so much. Nokia suite is pretty much able to do more the you think. And that means, to rewrite your system. SO STOP THINKING. Nokia will not release a tool that can destroy your device;).
NOW. Do a backup of important files and rename it with what ever name you want (don't let the default name) tell you later why.
now factory reset the damn thing. dial *#7370# and follow the instructions (this will format your mass mem, so if it came with apps on it, they are gone). The format will take from 3 to 10 minutes depending on the memory. So let it do it's job until start's up and asks for PIN (if you have one, which i recommend deactivating during the update, just deactivate to spare some seconds and to much THINKING:)) continue with setting up your country and clock and so on. Set the time and date and go on with the start up (set the time and date good, don't pass them (not required, but for safety in case of a phantom or something:)). Now after starts and while loads the widgets. Let it do it's job, just let it 1 or 2 minutes to load all the crap it needs to load. Then open Nokia Suite then plug the phone in USB. Let Nokia suite install it's plugins. This will take something like 30 seconds. No big of a deal. Now (again just to avoid any possible problems, minding you are scared as hell) unplug your device and restart it, let it load to the full, just let it after restart to be secured has loaded everything. Meanwhile, restart your pc to and let that rig load it's system till goes crazy, by the way, you will need to remember what i've said cause we're not gonna open anything besides Nokia suite. After everything is loaded, finally open Nokia Suite and after is fully loaded, plug your n8 in USB and FINALY Hit software update. Follow the instructions, nokia will make an automatic backup of NOTHING, cause your phone is empty, so that is why your original backup has a name of your own so you won't get confused while manually restore. Let Nokia suite do it's job, your phone will go blank and windows will say several times that your device was plugged unplugged trying to install it. Ignore everything what windows says and just follow what Nokia Suite says. Don't touch your device during the update. Don't set anything until Nokia Suite says it has finished (only if you have set the PIN code i told you to deactivate), and installs additional and so on, when Nokia says you can use it. The you can unplug and you can use it. There you go, you are up and done Belle Refresh is in your device:). As addition, Don't install Microsoft office update, they will eat to much of your memory. Update i think are useless and never installed: Colorizeit, Microsoft Apps, New Social, Nokia Music, upload to skydrive. Stop your negative thinking and go ahead.:)
Stupid me, 29 Jul 2013MdN & Carol OK. I'm tackling Belle now. I just backed up EVERYTHING on Nokia Suite. Wil... moreOkay I haven't done this myself as Belle was already there, but I think the phone manager is correct, memory space sounds right. The update is said to be small, I think 40 MB so it should be enough, and some space might be cleared in the process too as system files get replaced by new ones. Just do the automatic update stuff on Suite, and when it's done see if you lost anything, so if the backup isn't done automatically you can restore it manually with the backups you made.
I have my nokia n8 since July-2011 till date it working and used it as my primary phone, Isuperb camera and maps navigator, also used other phone. As secondary I also hacked using norton hack foind in n8 fanclub.com mostly my apps I download there also in nokia store 25.7mb left in C: installed Launcher n8 and qoobattery its cool, I feel lyk its new again. Abt lamination they have also here Shield in mall they laminate whole body but mine I make only screen. I love my nokia N8 silver
Vadodara, Gujarat, India.
MdN, 23 Jul 2013There's not much to mess up with upgrading to Belle really. If you have wi-fi just go to SW up... moreMdN & Carol
OK. I'm tackling Belle now. I just backed up EVERYTHING on Nokia Suite. Will that be problematic? Like, will I end up with double of nearly everything when I restore, with them using up all my memory?
Here's what I saw! My PC is showing:
Phone Memory - 0 bytes free of 251 megabytes and
Mass Memory, 14GB free.
The File Manager on the phone however, is showing: Phone Memory - 109.3 MB free and
Mass Memory - 14 GB free.
I don't understand the discrepancy. Is there enough space on the phone to take Belle (seeing that the PC is saying O free bytes). I'm a little confused. All I have to do is click on "Install" and I'm still hesitating!!!! :-) Gee! This is torture!
AnonD-131418, 28 Jul 2013how about in night condition??i see the specification of sensor camera is big..It had the biggest sensor in a phone when it was introduced. Today it's still 2nd or 3rd biggest. It is really good in low light, better than any other phone I tried (but I didn't try Lumia). When the sun goes down I take a photo of some trees outside and it shows more details than my eyes can see. That's without flash, the only problem is keeping your hands steady because the exposure can be long, up to 1/8 or 1/5 of a second. If you use flash it's no problem until maybe 3 meter distance, and exposure is short so you can take photos of moving objects too.
AnonD-131418, 28 Jul 2013does n8 have auto-focus camera?? what phone is better in camera nokia n8 or xperia sp,l,p??Yes it has autofocus and it is better than Sony. It was even better when they compared it to Xperia Z.
AnonD-129768, 28 Jul 2013Looks Like Every One Is Leaving Symbian...!!!Yes, but I think they maybe had problems because of too much illegal stuff.
does n8 have auto-focus camera?? what phone is better in camera nokia n8 or xperia sp,l,p??
AnonD-131418, 28 Jul 2013please help!!!!can nokia n8 use wechat,whatssapp,line???...i want to buy this phone....Yes Both Of Them Works Perfectly Fine....
Specially Whats App
You'll Find We Chat Little Annoying To Run...
But It Can Work....
please help!!!!can nokia n8 use wechat,whatssapp,line???...i want to buy this phone....