software flaws can be changed / improved
hardware can not
thats why this phone will get better and better
and the best thing is, you wont need to buy a new phone every year
I have the N8 and I can confidently say it is a fantastic phone.
Even my friend who is an Android fanboy agreed it is a good phone.
However, there are some shortcomings mostly due to the OS, but they will be fixed with future firmware updates. One of the few disappointments for me though is the lack of a LED light on the back which means no video light and no torch application. The other being the loud speaker. The sound quality isn't as good as the 5800xm and being mounted on the back means the sound can be muffled whilst in your pocket.
The phone itself is one of the most stylish looking handsets out there next to the Samsung Wave. iphone has never struck me as being particularly good looking.
A shortcoming of the iphone 4 is the lack of a HDMI port, which is bizzare considering it can record video in HiDef.
The N8's connectivity is streets ahead of the competition, with bluetooth v3, HDMI, USB to PC and even USB to a USB memory stick! The FM transmitter is a good inclusion for listening to your music in the car without having to worry about cables.
Verdict then is 4 out of 5. But if Nokia fix the bugs with the OS it will score 5 out of 5.
Actually, i love the n8, its the best
but im trying to proove to myself i didnt bought the wrong phone
Nameless, 17 Nov 2010"An underpowered phone with nice features and an old buggy software. Even GSM Arena says ... more"http://www.techradar.com/revie...92448/review in the product summery its stated 'superb battery life'
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia...ot-the-best/ 'good but not the best' I failed to see the word 'poor' in the blog, only in your post here...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/...70701,00.asp 'strong battery life' and the phone got only 2.5/5.
Do you need more? May I have a link that proves your 'poor' statement?"
I see you have worked well your answer, lol. Nice job. I reckon I could find bad comments about battery life because I read them, but I've conducted my own tests so I don't have to rely on anything else. I get paid for this, so I might know one or two things. When I say battery life is poor it means three things:
1.- It's a charge-every-day phone and full day working operation isn't a given.
2.- It's too easy to kill with intensive use.
2.- It's significantly short lived compared to competing models.
In my time with the N8, battery has been some kind of nightmare. Doing a little bit of everything, just as it's expected from an N8 owner, the battery wouldn't last a full day. What killed battery the most was downloading files from internet. I could kill it in less than 4 hours. iPhone 4 could last around 10 hours doing this (yes, I'm that sick) and battery lasted around two days doing regular use. Samsung Galaxy S takes comfort with a mark of around three days.
You can throw me any link you like, I will say the same: Nokia's N8 has poor battery life performance. Still, if it's good for you that's the only thing that counts. For many users and compared with iPhone 4 and Samsung Galaxy S, it isn't.
"Um, don't know, could also post some links but the general consensus is that there are no noticeable differences when you play the same games on N8 and iphone4. How can you say it falls behind...? Any links, please?"
Ok, I have used that expression to give an effect. N8's GPU isn't bad at all, but the marketplace is some kind of sport. If you aren't number one... And don't forget how GPUs don't work alone. N8 clearly falls short in CPU, resolution, RAM ammount and bandwidth.
Good challenging post mate. Cheers!
Anonymous, 17 Nov 2010does it have a video light??? anybody?No, xenon can't function as a light, only give flashes.
Enzo Maldini, 17 Nov 2010"Saying you are working for a big company and you will get fired if exposed."
I d... moreYour refering to symbian as being old in defence of view of its resource efficiency and vista in 2020 example erroded whatever possibilities i envisioned of you being who you claim. You at best don't know half as much as you think you do.
Symbian is still a benchmark for all other mobile os. That ensured by decades of brewing and tuning. The only problem is the ui. Symbians resource efficiency lies in its core and is not as result of inability to perform functions its compeditors offer. Be you a professor, you couldn't possibly know more than the people at nokia. It doesn't take common sense to figure out why they would stick in a relatively slow processor and then underclock it.
To be honest, the n8 as it is isn't the best device out there but it undoubtably is the best in its price range. here, the galaxy s costs 25%more than the n8. But still With the s^4 updates, assuming they deliver as promised, the n8 would rule right over any android runner currently on the market. Personally, i don't consider the iphone a smartphone so i don't see it as worth mentioning. Its an overpriced feature phone with a lot of high quality apps 'which you have to pay for'. And don't mention jailbreaking cuz you loose your warranty.
snonre, 17 Nov 2010as far as i know, the n8 uses the Broadcom BCM2727 gpu which is one of the best in the market.... moreExcuse me using quotes constantly. Englsh isn't my natal language and I find this formula easier for me.
"as far as i know, the n8 uses the Broadcom BCM2727 gpu which is one of the best in the market"
You are right, but still it's worse than iPhones's and Samsung Galaxy S. You can see it by pure stats, by looking the same game running on different phones and... have you seen U3 Engine running in the iPhone 4 or Rage? It blows away PSP and N3DS graphics. Well, even someone at Nintendo told N3DS couldn't run it.
"its quite good for a 1200mah battery, try to find another smartphone with the same battery capasity that can last as long as the n8."
What do you care, how does your battery perform against its spec or how long does it last in the real world? You look like you want to make a crime of Apple and Samsung for including a superior battery.
"And symbian^3 will also get a whole ui rewrite in the future, things like this need time man, you dont just expect to get a great os from the start itself?"
I agree with this and I hope things get well done, but the "big-bang" isn't now with the N8, it was long ago with the 5800. Since then, they are playing the catching game.
Oh, almost forgot! I didn't say YOU were a troll, I was talking in general....just so you know...
Enzo Maldini, 17 Nov 2010"Whats wrong with the GPU?"
It falls behind the competition. Do some research.
... more"An underpowered phone with nice features and an old buggy software. Even GSM Arena says Symbian has some distance to catch. They didn't even compare it to high-end phones at the end of their review."
So, is it your opinion that this is a high end phone? Its mid range but it just so happens to nibble off some of those high-enders but hey, all is fair in love and war, right?
I do the same tests on every phone so I can make comparisons. I repeat: N8's battery performance is poor. If you don't believe this, check comparing battery life tests online. In this web page there's even one.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/nokia-n8-692448/review in the product summery its stated 'superb battery life'
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-n8-battery-test-results-are-out-good-but-not-the-best/ 'good but not the best' I failed to see the word 'poor' in the blog, only in your post here...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370701,00.asp 'strong battery life' and the phone got only 2.5/5.
Do you need more? May I have a link that proves your 'poor' statement?
"Whats wrong with the GPU?"
It falls behind the competition. Do some research.
Um, don't know, could also post some links but the general consensus is that there are no noticeable differences when you play the same games on N8 and iphone4. How can you say it falls behind...? Any links, please?
You take way too much of my time man...I'll reply tomorrow. Cheers!
N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010Gitty do you have one???
I do, you could jailbreak the iphone and by doing it all of the s... morejailbreaking gives you all the features? Tell me, does jailbreaking improve the signal strength, give it a memory card slot, give it true multitasking, give it a fm radio, etc, etc, etc.
Btw, jailbreaking voids your waranty so if your iphone4 is screwed, you are screwed too.
N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010you are the 4 person that talk about sh.... and can't denied the things that I used as a real ... moreYeah iphone has double than N8 !
24mp camera with 2xenon flash :D
price is almost twice than the N8
yeah ,the problems of iphne is also double than the N8
Gitty do you have one???
I do, you could jailbreak the iphone and by doing it all of the stuff that you say is not true any more.
for this reason I said the all the negative score that iphone has is from people that have never seen or touch an iphone.
N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010How is possible that the N8 has a better calification than the iphone 4??? lest processor, les... moreWow,iphone4 is too costly,read this-
Main disadvantages of iPhone 4
- Hardware design is prone to reception issues
- MicroSIM card support only
- No Flash support in the web browser
- No true multitasking for all applications
- FaceTime video calls work only over Wi-Fi
- No file transfer over Bluetooth or USB Mass
- No hardware shutter key for the camera
- No FM radio
- No stereo speakers
- No microSD card slot
- No smart dialing
- Too dependent on iTunes for loading
- Poor loudspeaker performance
Android might have 50% market share, but not a single person has shown me an app on Android, that I want that isn't available for Symbian v3 or even IOS4.
you are the 4 person that talk about sh.... and can't denied the things that I used as a real probe. The iphone 4 has a 1420mAh battery that is more than the n8 battery. the symbian os is dying. Iphone has almost the doble of processor and memory and the batery works more time than n8 one. so the screen on the iphone is much more better than the n8 one. take all of this on count when you say something about battery life.
N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010How is possible that the N8 has a better calification than the iphone 4??? lest processor, les... moreOn paper the iPhone4 maybe has better video recording but if you compare video's, N8 is much better.
And battery of iPhone4 is bigger, but N8 can last double of the time of iPhone 4. So don't come up with facts that are not true..
Gitty, 17 Nov 2010Yes,symbian^3 is the new os but the same old UI ( s60v5) and some problems,bugs! Symbian^4 is ... moreYou are right and I really hope they do a great job with it. The problem is you can only make one first impression. Nokia would need to launch a new phone with the update so they can make a market changing impact. Today, Android is eating Symbian's market share at an alarming rate.