Engineer Man, 13 Nov 2010I will be trying the C7 if it arrives in 6 days. Then I may send it back & try the N8. Sin... moreThe USER internal memory of 350MB for the C7 against N8's 135MB, at some point made me change my mind about N8's potential as compared to C7 in handling apps, but symbian 3 OS utilises the mem very well and the new update is going to make it very snappy. Infact there's a Hacked update and i understand it makes it very snappy, no shity restarts. Generaly i don't think that there will be any significant differnce in performance.
Actually, I am thinking if map application just sucks and makes the phone freeze. Where are you from? Does the dealer tell if any other unit has similar problem. It is also possible the GPS chip is faulty. Everything is possible but have to figure it out.
GPS works really fine, smoothly and fast for me. I live in Finland. I also used in Estonia recently. It helped a lot when traveling in the city of Tallinn.
snonre, 13 Nov 2010Oh yeah, its the Broadcom BCM2727.
And if you still dont believe me about the N8 performanc... moreOops, forgotten the link
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2010have you touch a wave, or even fiddling around with it's UI? once you experience wave's UI, yo... moreOh yeah, its the Broadcom BCM2727.
And if you still dont believe me about the N8 performance, here is the gl benchmarks test results (cant find for samsung wave, so i compared the N8 with Iphone4, Galaxy S and Desire)
Even with lower specs compared to the other phones, the N8 still manages to catch up and even beat the other phones in certain aspects.
Mac, 13 Nov 2010It happens often. On every occasion i open it, it worked fine but just froze after a couple of... moreCheck if it works well only gps is running and nothing is multitaking in the background. I usually only use gps only without anything else so I have not seen any problems.
To day I have instal swype on my N8. Now I am posting from it. It is very fast.
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2010have you touch a wave, or even fiddling around with it's UI? once you experience wave's UI, yo... moreI did own a wave before the N8.
and yes,the touch response was good. at the same time, a lot of games like NFS shift and Kroll crashed and heated up the cpu quite a lot. though it was a brilliant phone, i still find the nokia N8 better.
the silly themes(hardly a few), low battery life is email exchange is used were a big turn off for me.
not to mention crappy apps.
The N8 is NOT a revolution. But, as GSMArena said, it is Evolution.
Everyone can feel at home. Functionality is super. Hardware is Brilliant.
Also, Hhe processor is 680MHz, ( As good as 700 MHz) and the Desire Z has 800 MHz. Funny nobody is complaining there.
Also, the samsung wave with a 1 GHZ processor is simply Stupid. i never saw it use more than 40 - 50 % of its CPU.
The Choke point on the samsung wave is its RAM, which SAMSUNG, for some reason, do not officially disclose. it could be 384 or 256 MB. GAWD knows !!!
Nokia is not limited by hardware, because its GPU is powerful enough to handle anything.
AND FYI, while playing games,GPU is far more important than CPU.
an i7 proc with a shitty graphic card will do worse on high end games than a Core 2 Duo with a High end Graphic card !!!!
And wave is a mass market phone. N8 is for everyone.
The sales figures are limited by supply constraints, but just keep looking, Nokia is on its way up, and HOW !!!
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2010Does it happen often or just occasionally. It happened restarting once with my N8 when I tried... moreIt happens often. On every occasion i open it, it worked fine but just froze after a couple of minutes and then just restarts. I went to the dealer the 1st time and it didnt do it! As soon as i walked out it froze :( Anyway i took it in now and they will give me a new one on Tuesday. I love this phone. I am not fazed by this. Everything just works perfectly. I even took my 5800 tv cable and connected....and it worked like a charm. Played NFS and it was awesome!! No lags, no freezing, hanging etc. Pics are superb. Browser is superb for me. I dont know whats the fuss about but it can get better and by the way it is pretty quick too. My phone just had a glitch and thats that. I didnt install any s60 apps and just the 3 hd games and music from ovi with my 6 months unlimited. I wonder when i get the new phone if i'd get another 6!! Lol. I'm sure it wont work cos i cant have 2 running on the same number so i'll just load it on my other number!!
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2010have you touch a wave, or even fiddling around with it's UI? once you experience wave's UI, yo... moreDude, dude, dude, hold ur horses
Read my question again
"Ok then, can you tell me anything that the Bada OS can do but the Symbian^3 OS can't?"
I specifically asked of what the Bada OS can do but the Symbian^3 cant? i'm not asking you to compare wave and the n8.
UI is a subjective matter, it depends on the persons taste, some may like Bada OS, others will prefer symbian OS.
About hardware,you cant just look at the processor power and jump to a conclusion. No no no. If you had an n8 you will find that the games are smooth on the N8 and are well optimized for the Symbian^3 platform. Sure the Iphone4 version of the games are slightly more detailed, but what matters is the game play is still there and its playable. Whats more, Symbian can utilize virtual RAM and its built in GPU, and the N8 GPU is one of the best ever (i forgot the name of the GPU, but it starts with a 'B')
Now back to the question, what can Bada OS do that Symbian^3 can't?
snonre, 13 Nov 2010Ok then, can you tell me anything that the Bada OS can do but the Symbian^3 OS can't?have you touch a wave, or even fiddling around with it's UI? once you experience wave's UI, you can answer ur own question already.
i'm not a troll, and i don't own N8 but i do have wave and i had been acquainted to an N8 demo, sure it's responsive but not par with the top notch touch phones..
at my end i know what i want in wave that N8 doesn't have, pleasing fast UI experience comparable to Iphone "4" could offer. And in terms of games we have to accept the fact the hardware capabilities of both, wave has arm cortex 8 1gzh and GPU comparable to iphone 4 and galaxy S and N8 has that, it may be non power hungry for N8 but that's also shows it's limitation. you can't expect a game rig PC that will only consume 20 watt "like a laptop", it needs power in order to deliver real power also.
if your gonna say symbian is optimized at lower specs, then why can't it deliver same speed to wave.
There is no divx,mp4 or 3gp player apps on this phone,just click on video apps and it will play any supported video. And most of user who face switching or restarting problem is because they install unsupported apps for n8,yes nokia has said that s^1 apps is workin on any s^3 phone,but they forget to tell us (or perhaps didn't know) it will cause some problem to the phone.
i have used n8, former n97 mini user
much improvement in os stablity and and capabilty about symbian 3
nokia did not work hard on symbian 1 which is really immature
want to see euro 700 symbian phone from nokia next year
nokia nokia dont care so much about the price of their next flagshipbecause n8 is already devcent to compete with its ompetitors
n8 sucks, 13 Nov 2010had a budget of 30k....used n8 and wave....but n8 was okay ...wave was awesome...so i bought w... moreOk then, can you tell me anything that the Bada OS can do but the Symbian^3 OS can't?
had a budget of 30k....used n8 and wave....but n8 was okay ...wave was awesome...so i bought wave and an xbobx 360 with remaining money...
no doubt nokia makes best hardware for phones but they shuld accept defeat in os and fuck symbian and use android...i ll be the first one to a nokia android combine
my advice to n8 users
hard reset n8, usung *#7370#
install only google maps, joikuspot , angry birds, spb tv, sports tracker, swype,
and wait for next upcoming n8 firmware update, new ovi maps, new ovi browser, new nopkia interent radio,
if you are adventurous person, try out umplayer made by chinese developers which is capable to play high resolutuion rmvb smoothly
need more chinese character writing pleasant experince, try out baidu input whioch let you handwrite chinese characters in full phone screen, i love it, btw it works flawlessly
finally, just wish more decent app choice to come, or you can contribute to symbian by just going to apps or games developer forum to ask them for symbian version of their apps
I will be trying the C7 if it arrives in 6 days. Then I may send it back & try the N8. Since the N8's Music playback, ringer faired a bit better & louder than C7 in some gmsa sound tests.
It's a while to wait to try out a phone. Then to send it back & wait to try another phone. But I think it'll be worth it. Not sure whether the N8 is as finished as the C7 in other areas.
The C7 seems to have more C: application space available. Even after it's used for the swap file, application memory & OS. 300+MB's seems to have a better chance than the N8's 150MB's free space.
Also the C7 does seem to have some varying icon themes & varying font size to N8's. Their does seem to be some varying pre loaded apps on C7 over the N8. The C7 seems to be a little bit more prepared & ready than the N8.
Gsma even mentioned that the touch screen of the C7 seemed a little bit more finely tuned & better calibrated over the N8's touchscreen. It's effectiveness. However most people here can say whether the N8 is actually better prepared than Gsma N8.
Mac, 13 Nov 2010Guys, what would cause my N8 to shutdown when using the ovi gps? Works bloody well but just sh... moreDoes it happen often or just occasionally. It happened restarting once with my N8 when I tried to search something from map or something like this. I have used it for over 2 months and occasionally happens something. I consider it normal and acceptable as it is a new os without any major updates yet. I have had problems with Windows 7 on my HP mini laptop such as network stopping working without rebooting and chrome browser freezes and even crashes now and then. But most time it is working.