..........I dont have to go there. I'm from there.
As I mentioned , we wait and see.
I will also get one as I am a Nokia lover. But not this production batch.will wait for the firmware to be out.
Now I am still using N95 gb and E71.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010....Dont need to own one to know the truth. If you are Nokia phone lovers , you will know what... moreThe phone wasnt actually delayed, i got mine during Q3, last thursday.
So far the user reception has been very good, S^3 doesnt have any major shortcomings.
Is funny to see android and iphone fans messing around here in this page, if you take a look at the Iphone and Galaxy S page, they dun quite have the battle that we have here right now in this page. This shows that N8 will be selling as it has caught many people's attention especially from haters.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010....Dont need to own one to know the truth. If you are Nokia phone lovers , you will know what... moreNice try judging s^3 based on s^1 history. Why don't you just leave those who want this phone alone?
im a 5800 user,i bought galaxy s for few weeks,hit its limitations and sold it.5800 is very good and nokia always giving updates,they literally ported symbian^2 to 5800(like kinetic scroll,new browser,new music playet).since i bought this fone 20months ago,ive had at least 10updates!whereas samsung abandond its amazing omnia hd from the outset!same with sony ericsson with vivaz n satio.
Its this attitude from nokia many ppl buy there fone,its reliable,trusty and can make calls :)
I've accidentally submerged my fone,dropped it countless number of times yet its still as good as new!
And im waiting for N8 now....
....Dont need to own one to know the truth. If you are Nokia phone lovers , you will know what I mean. I have been using Nokia and changing Nokia phones every 3 months. All Nokia N Series always hang , auto off , auto reset ,except for N95 gb. Even the N97 mini you have to reboot by pressing the 3 buttons, space , shift , power to reboot because of the OVI application problem intitially
As normal , need for firmware upgrade.
We will see the fun when the phone is launched.
Go and do some homeworks and find out from your counterparts in Finland what caused the delay.
Even their previous upgrade OS is problem when launching. Whatmore the new version.
You will know what I mean. Cheers !!!
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010Enough of the lies already. Go to the article on the 5800 firmware in the blog and read the pr... moreSo why wasn't the widgets given to 5800 customers when it was possible? Also the interface of 5800 with their latest firmware was slow while with c6 firmware it has become faster, so it's not just the widgets. I own a 5800 and i know.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010Lol symbian will not offer any new firmwares even the latest firmware of 5800 is not worth men... moreEnough of the lies already. Go to the article on the 5800 firmware in the blog and read the praises from users. Its superb. The only reason why anyone saw need to port the c6 firmware to it was cuz of the homescreen. The 5800 home screen didn't have widgets. If you don't know, shut the hell up.
iphone 4 vs n8 hd video record side by side .
..The truth is when you start do download application , games ,Etc , than the problem will starts. Just like Nokia N97 mini .
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010Lol symbian will not offer any new firmwares even the latest firmware of 5800 is not worth men... more5800 has got the maximum number of furmware with many new featured introduced..it was ok when my friend bought n now after firmware it even better..nokia gives proper support compared to anyother brand
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010...not forgetting its auto shut off and auto hang. Its trade mark. Hope the new symbian OS do... moreThose are the thing of the past with symbian^3. Even anti-nokia reviewers (engadget, gizmodo) say that is stable
...not forgetting its auto shut off and auto hang. Its trade mark. Hope the new symbian OS doesn"t have such "trademark" too
With the popularity of the iPhone and android,many people are starting to forget how great Symbian was (and still is). Many people are saying that Symbian is outdated, but to me is the grandfather/ veteran of the smartphone OS. Back then, many feature phone users were jealous of Symbian cause it had better app, games, etc.
Symbian brought the worlds 1st true multitasking to phones. It is also a multimedia powerhouse. Symbian supports way more multimedia formats than the iphone. Still remember SE Vivaz and samsung i8910 Omnia HD? They both run on symbian and there is a reason for it. Symbian has HD video recording capability which other OS did not have until now. It was way ahead of its time.
About the processor, symbian os does not really need a very powerful processor to work properly. Just have a look at nokia N-gage. It runs on a 100mhz+ processor without a graphics card and it is still able to play awesome games like tomb raider which was ported directly from the PSX. The power of symbian os can aso be seen in the N8, games like rally master pro and asphalt 5 run smoothly and the graphics are comparable to the Iphone4 n Galaxy S.
Long story short, symbian is not ready to give up just yet and there are full of suprises waiting for us in Symbian^3 and Symbian^4.
Interesting no mention of the Xenon flash. I have an N82 and the xenon flash is fantastic for dinners, parties, anything indoor. Just google some samples and you'll be astounded how good pictures are with a proper flash. Well done Nokia, can't wait to buy
Gary, 08 Oct 2010You may want to see this... http://tctechcrunch.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/smartphone-os-mar... morei guess i was the only one to notice gary referring to US as the world with this post. just to let you know gary, this graph is showing the OS for US not the world.......
By CHRISTOPHER LAWTON
Nokia Corp. is using a key mobile technology conference in San Francisco this week to ramp up efforts to win over more developers to its Ovi mobile application store, a critical linchpin in its quest to wrest U.S. market share from bigger rivals Apple Inc. and Google Inc.
At the CTIA Enterprise & Applications show in San Francisco, which wraps up Friday, Nokia executives have been aggressively wooing application developers in meetings and pitching its smartphone platform in presentations, company officials say.
The moves are part of a broader scramble to catch up to rivals in the U.S. by luring more U.S. consumers to its smartphones with a wider and more innovative array of applications. Nokia's share of the U.S. smartphone market is just 2.8% in the first quarter, a fraction of the Apple iPhone's 20.2% and the 26.9% share for smartphones using Google Inc.'s Android operating system software, according to data from IDC, a market research firm.
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Nokia's Ovi mobile-app store is playing catch up with Apple and Google. Above, a customer makes a purchase from Ovi's portal on a Nokia N8.
The Finnish company faces an uphill battle in recruiting developers in the U.S. Creating apps for different platforms often requires learning a new programming language. To make a return on investment, developers say they must focus on the platforms that provide the most access to users and revenue. In many cases, that means Apple's App Store and Google's Android Market come first. The App Store hosted some 225,000 applications compared to Nokia's 6,900 in the second quarter, according to VisionMobile, a market research firm.
For Nokia, it's a vicious cycle. The company needs U.S. developers to write applications for its Ovi store to help boost sales of its latest handsets. But without boosting sales in the U.S., analysts say it will continue to struggle to convince developers to jump on board.
"When they have such a low market share, there is no point for a developer to invest time and money to develop an app to the Ovi store," Francisco Jeronimo, an analyst with IDC, says.
Nokia's efforts to attract U.S. developers also underscore a big shift in the mobile handset market. Since the launch of the iPhone in 2007, the choice of applications has become the biggest selling point for many consumers in smartphone shopping. To get the most innovative and buzzed-about applications on their phones, manufacturers and carriers now pour their efforts into increasing their base of installed devices and court developers to write software applications to run on them.
Nokia promoted Purnima Kochikar to vice president of Forum Nokia, the company's global network that supports developers, a year ago in part to help expand its developer network. Ms. Kochikar says that while her job isn't made any easier by Nokia's small U.S. market share, it still sells more smartphones than the competition across more than 160 countries. So Nokia is making the case that it has local knowledge of large markets such as China and India, and can help developers create new business models around their applications.
"Right now the perception doesn't match where we are," she says. "That is part of my job, to make [developers] understand what we can bring to the table."
Over the past 18 months, Nokia has reduced the number of phone models it sells, she said, an effort to respond to developers' complaints that Nokia had too many phones on too many different software platforms. At Nokia World in London last month, the company introduced a new family of smartphones all running on the company's updated Symbian platform on similar hardware, which helps reduce complexity.
At the same time, Nokia has introduced new tools that help developers work across all versions of software running on its devices, including the high-end MeeGo operating system expected to launch next year.
In courting some developers, Nokia also has waived access fees for the Ovi store and supplied development help and business managers to help software writers customize their applications for Nokia.
Since joining Nokia, Ms. Kochikar has brought in people specialized in designing mobile games, because gaming is a popular application in the U.S. Ms. Kochikar also brought in a brand-and-marketing expert to help improve Nokia's brand reputation among developers.
Nokia has so far found some success. Of the more than 3.3 million developers who create applications for Nokia, 155,000 are U.S based, including big names such as Electronic Arts Inc., Facebook Inc. and PopCap Games Inc.
Still Nokia faces head winds in its effort to turn its market share losses into gains. The company, which recently hired former Microsoft executive Stephen Elop as CEO to help turn the tide, has seen many of its top rank and file desert the company. Ari Jaaksi, head of MeeGo at Nokia, left earlier this week for "personal reasons," the company said.
In the past few weeks, both Sony-Ericsson Mobile Communications AB and Samsung Electronics Co. have distanced themselves from Symbian, focusing instead on Android and other software platforms.
Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704696304575538240647109962.html#ixzz11kC9ba5X
[deleted post]Lol symbian will not offer any new firmwares even the latest firmware of 5800 is not worth mentioning, however individuals like pnht ported c6 firmware to 5800 and made the phone better, while nokia did not even bother to show 5800 customers their love. This will also be the case with n8, tomorrow though symbian 4 will be compatible with this phone they will not upgrade this phone. They will forget about you n8 guys pretty soon. Shame upon nokia. They can easily offer 5800 and n97 customers who brought their phone the latest video and music player as a free upgrade but they won't do so. Today we are suffering tomorrow you guys with n8 will suffer.
Gary, 08 Oct 2010The Galaxy S? It does not lag. See the reviews. I am not only talking about the Galaxy S. I me... moregary..dont lie..i am galaxy s owner..n my phone hangs a lot..simple go to google n type galaxy s lags..u will get many fixes but nothing works..u cant fool people