hi guys , i like nokia n8 too much but i just have some comments on it and i like 2 hear ur comments about it. first of all the camera lens is uncovered and i just find it little wired that there is no key pad and no writting recognition. also did we really need all that 12 pixls cam on the expense of the relativly low resolution of the screen- 40 percent lower than super armold in sam. and 30 percent than that of apple i phone 4- what do u think guys?
Gary, 08 Oct 2010For all those Nokia lovers...
Nokia is not a good brand to say everything in a nutshell. And ... moreSorry Gary. I had to cut that post abit shotter due to me hitting roadblocks with my long posts.
Let me continue then. The other aspect that i wanted to say was, what deems a company as 'world class'. Is it in their six sigma certification alone. So this would be the clincher for your move to something that works failure free but pathetically at that. There are numerous other aspects that deem that and maybe take a look at it. There are the likes of ISO certification, OHS, CCP's etc just to name a few. Let me explain this if one may not know. These take care of not just quality, workmanship and work ethic but ensures that the consumer forms part of your awareness and protecting the consumer from defective products, doing QC at source and ensuring that the environment is of utmost priority to ensure sustainability would be also very important for the big companies. Google on this dont care about those aspects. They develop software, thats it. It is for companies to consider those aspects, even if the os causes the phone to explode, sorry we just manufacture the os, not the hardware. You see, nokia is unlike google, involved in everything. That is what makes a great company, finger on the pulse.
If nokia cared about themselves you think that would have not been a strategy to change their os much earlier? They didnt cos they thought of the consumer entirely, even to their demise in certain senses as well. The current strategy should have been adopted much earlier and hence the market and decline would have been a very different story altogether. What may that be you ask? Well it is rather simple. You see the management at nokia being old school dont like change specifically as 'if it works then' attitude and 'for the people' as well. The change was not on cos it was satisfying a need. But with advancement there needs to be change so that you remaim competitive and your advantage over others. Nokia realised that too late but all is not lost.
So what are they to do. Well to those that dont understand the existance of symbian ^3, well simply put like this. You see with change there needs to be buy in created. (read on kotter). Change can make you and brake you. Too drastic overhaul could lose customers too. This is why ^3 looks so much alike to the os. The new version has been modified substantially under the hood however. You just see certain new things. The os is now prepped for better things. Old school people would now buy in slowly with noticing and with just updates adding a few new aspects to the os. Call it what you may but that is agreta strategy and comes with maturity not bought overnight.
Nokia have done their homework. Drastic changes was needed for the better and hence was made. The new fresher os is ready but timing needs to be right and could prove critical. This should further cement nokias position in the market. Great strategy and it is coming without othera even knowing!! Declines in market shares are not always a negative thing. There may be something better brewing that you will reap rather quickly once implemented. Watch nokia!!
mac :-), 08 Oct 2010theres no issue here. just please stop comparing n8. one more thing get out of this comment se... moreHahaha. Its funny to see you guys ignoring reality and getting pissed off!! Yeah dopes! Its your money, waste it...
Gary, 08 Oct 2010For all those Nokia lovers... Nokia is not a good brand to say everything in a nutshell. And ... moreVery detailed! he.. he.. why wasting your time in N8 forum. you amaze me. The N8 is such a cool phone
Gary, 08 Oct 2010For all those Nokia lovers... Nokia is not a good brand to say everything in a nutshell. And ... moretheres no issue here. just please stop comparing n8. one more thing get out of this comment section for n8 review. go to your android review segment....you dont care if people want to buy n8 its not ur money anyway.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010iPhone isn't a smartphone? Where in the world are you living! Ummm, should I get something to ... moreThe definition of smartphone is subjective. It has nothing to do with location but with iq. For dumb faggots with iq in the same bracket as the average american the iphone might be a smartphone. But for the rest of us, its a stupidly overpriced feature phone. Whats really is the difference between ios and nokias s40? Tell me.
George, 08 Oct 2010@Gary
My my my do you even know what six sigma certifies..?? It certifies that you do what yo... morehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_sigma
I need not say anything more about the Six Sigma certification.
Mac, 08 Oct 2010Firstly, to the guy using my name, please either refrain from this or better yet, change it to... moreYa mac, I agree. Symbian was being continuously developed from many years. Android is a new-bee and they are trying to make it better. Let's not forget that even Symbian was not reliable and good until many years!
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010The galaxy does lag and i know what i'm saying. There is a difference between 4days of fooling... moreiPhone isn't a smartphone? Where in the world are you living! Ummm, should I get something to read if you are free?
My my my do you even know what six sigma certifies..?? It certifies that you do what you say you are doing, the way you say you are doing it (in other words its just like checking your homework). So in this case Samsung and HTC and the others are just saying "Hey, we do all these pieces of useless things the way they are supposed to be done"... some statement.
Gary, 08 Oct 2010The Galaxy S? It does not lag. See the reviews. I am not only talking about the Galaxy S. I me... moreThe galaxy does lag and i know what i'm saying. There is a difference between 4days of fooling around with a device and actually using it. There is no smartphone that doesn't lag. All you have to do is push it. The iphone is no smartphone so it doesn't count.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010Let me add that an os can also lag as result of bugs and ill optimization as was the case with... moreYou may want to see this...
Gary, 08 Oct 2010For all those Nokia lovers...
Nokia is not a good brand to say everything in a nutshell. And ... moreFirstly, to the guy using my name, please either refrain from this or better yet, change it to something else please. I have been using that for a long while now.
OK, now onto the discussion. Gary, you have truly made some valid points. There are some aspects that i would like to clarify. There is nobody here that mentions android to be sticking to large processors as their main source for driving their os on phones. Point taken that they have utilised different smaller processors lately but the power drain is still a major problem for android. They may not be because android is the cause but just due to the processors not reaching the true equilibrium point fit for smartphone use currently. They are still getting better and the benifits of better processors are upon us. Android may just sort that power sapping problem sooner than we think.
The os however is still far from complete. There are lots of aspects that still need development and the os currently needs to be modified to accomodate new hardware aspects into it just so that it works. I mean just take a look at symbian, everything works with this outdated os. Rather efficiently at that too. Are you willing to wait for android to update their os further now to integrate the new fresh stuff that N8 has dished out this ti e round. People are still battling to get 2.2 installed currently and their phones are not even working correctly after installing the update. How sad considering that besides my previous phone versions of this make, on this phone itself i have had 5 updates with no glitches whatsoever too. Mind you, i did skip certain updates and just hopped onto the next with no hiccups. This is called materity and that is symbian for you. Android dont have that. To tell you the truth they are not a strategist company and you can clearly take note on their shortfalls im certain aspects. Tneir main aim is eye candy and faster os. Ease of use has been considered but there is too much they are trying to achieve and too quickly. Could go either way here. They may be some legal battles to come too which could slow down their progress or even halt it. Woe would be the market then? Nokia on this take have been there, done that and learnt their leasons. Being burnt comes with the game. What matters is how well you recover from the set backs that makes you into a great company.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010Okay, you really don't have to tell silly lies here. We are literate.
Who said 680mhz isn't... moreLet me add that an os can also lag as result of bugs and ill optimization as was the case with the n97 and 5800. Yes, "was". Tried the latest firmware? The 5800 especially is . . .
At times, you guys almost sound as though symbian isn't itself evolving. Android is working on 3.0. Symbian is working on s^4!
Maybe 6months ago, symbian had no developers but now? No rational minded individual with programming knowledge on the symbian platform would hear of nokias packages and not come running. Heck, half the worlds smartphones run true to symbian.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2010Okay, you really don't have to tell silly lies here. We are literate. Who said 680mhz isn't... moreThe Galaxy S? It does not lag. See the reviews. I am not only talking about the Galaxy S. I mean all the Android flagships. I am sorry if I am being hard, but you must do some research before saying. Now did you know that even cheapest of the digital watches have RAM, ROM and processor? And on the other hand, even a super computer does have. Its all about speed and quality that differentiates them. I must encourage you to read and research what you are saying. Lets not be confined. Lets be dynamic. That way we can help people instead of fighting with them...
can anybdy tell me the exact release date of nokia n8 in india,,,,,and does it supports games like n900 games?
Gary, 08 Oct 2010For all those Nokia lovers...
Nokia is not a good brand to say everything in a nutshell. And ... moreOkay, you really don't have to tell silly lies here. We are literate.
Who said 680mhz isn't running symbian at full speed? Who said the n8 is slow?
Yes, android is growing but symbian has over twice the market share. Android can never become the most popular os. Not even if nokia is the only company using symbian
The htc wildfire runs 2.1 alright but do you know how many features had to be disabled to enable it run properly? I used the wildfire up until last month. The mini pro also runs 2.1. Try placing it beside say, the galaxy s. That they both run 2.1 doesn't mean they have the same feature load. Neither does it mean they can run the same apps.
Android user 600mhz? You're lying again! Thats not even rational. Oses don't work that way. If the 1ghz is not fully used, then why does it lag? An os starts to lag when either its ram or processor are used up. And don't even try telling me the galaxy doesn't lag. 1ghz is not only required for 2.1 to run properly with all features onboard but its also insufficient if you intend to guaranty smoothness allthrough.
Symbian is much more efficent than android. Infact, android can't be described with the word efficent in any degree. This is more obvious when you take into consideration the fact that symbian actually minimizes running apps and doesn't pause then as is the case is android.
insaneman, 08 Oct 2010for me its not just about the os with the nokia n8 yes i am a bit of a Symbian fan but thats ... moreI agree with you. Its all about a race. Nokia has re defined their OS, while Microsoft is coming up with Windows Phone 7! Some rumors speak that Google is developing on the Android 3 (Ginger bread).
Well, anyways, thanks for being polite, many people don't mind arguing with others until the other dies :-p
Let's see the new flagship of Nokia. Hardware seems promising, but then again, Sony may be coming up with a 16.4 MP smartphone.
Let's see what happens.
And ya, about the new N8!! Whenever Nokia releases their new flagship, then people praise it like anything. But after some time, say 2 or 3 months, those only people say 37 kinds of shit about that particular model. Till now, N8 may be good, let's see what happens after 3 months.