Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010i know that alot of die hard nokia fanboys are here n i am not here to offend anyone n i just ... moreYou are missing the point. You just assume that those devices are better, because that is what you think, and you base that on your own needs and assumptions. Every user and use case is different, so trying to generalize your opinion by saying all round is kinda not so smart to be honest. It just does not work that way.
Also, discussion here is always too simple. We talk about screen resolution on Android being better, but then it turns out most of those screen actually have a net resolution of about the same as the nHD Symbian uses. Ironic, isnt it.
See this link for proof :
I also read, why is Samsung leaving Symbian? The reason is simple, it is not their platform, they have no services ecosystem and Nokia is too dominant.
Look, Android is nice, but it has a few huge problems.
A its dominant party is google
B its made with code that belongs to Sun / Oracle.
For A, companies like SE and HTC still use it because it is the best they can do. In the long term they will become OEM's and ironic full circle for HTC. This will lead to hardware commoditization like we see in the PC industry. Microsoft makes 60% of all PC related profits. Not Dell. Or Fujitsu. Google wants the same for the mobile space. The companies that push Android the hardest, are the companies that were off the worst, like SE, and Motorola. Samsung on the other hand is large enough to build its own ecosystem, with Bada. They are just using Android with touchwiz, and bada with touchwiz, and hope customers wont notice when they leave Android for Bada. Trust me, this is 100% what Samsung wants to do.
Nokia is the only player in this industry that can afford to build their own. Nokia's angle was to get other people to support their platform, and Samsung wisely declined. That would be about as stupid as Nokia using Android right now.
For B, the good part is that Nokia is excellently prepared. You see, OPK was a lawyer, not a techy. So while we may not see the flashiest UI on S^3 yet, Symbian is rock solid in a patent fight. And then again, who would they fight since it went Open Source. This is in part why everything has taken so long. All of the proprietary modules needed to be replaced.
The end game here is that Oracle is going to kill Android in due course. In the meantime manufacturers are riding the android wave and skinning it to differentiate themselves. Then everything will blow up, Android core needs to be rewritten and SE Motorola and HTC are screwed.
Nokia is taking the hard, difficult but eventually better business strategy here. Even though it is costing them some spotlight right now.
Anssi was right. Pee in the pants. Feels nice and warm now for Android phone manufacturers, but later on they are screwed. Screwed big time.
Can someone please explain me clearly all informations in camera's characteristic?
I understand what AF (Auto Focus) and Mega Pixel are for.
But Focal, sensor, large sensor, mechanical shutter, aperture, variable aperture, ISO...
And mainly, why the cheapest (real) camera made by Kodak, Cannon or Panasonic... Always take by far best and cleaner picture than the one in phones?
I'd like to have information too about sound characteristics like decibel, sensiblity...
I think GSMArena must explain all those 'new' characteristics that are now part of new high.ends phone's features.
Sorry for my english and thank you for reply.
Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010do u think will i be happy using nokia n8 considering i have seen htc desire n xperia x10 in m... moreI honestly can't say, you have to try that yourself. I've never claimed that the N8 works for everyone, that's why I often suggest other phones to people who clearly have more use for some other phone than the N8.
N97-era Symbian has just about nothing to do with Symbian^3, Symbian isn't dying anywhere until Nokia stops using it. Mark my words.
Could that some tard stop getting all my posts deleted, adults are trying to talk here.
Wheez, 03 Oct 2010No, in many parts of the world you can try the N8 in shops etc.
How can you know it's infer... moredo u think will i be happy using nokia n8 considering i have seen htc desire n xperia x10 in my hands? give me a fair answer :)
yes its all about opinions n different views but one opinion which is generally believed is that symbian is dying n thats the reason SE n Samsung have dumped it
Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010do u know why SE and Samsung has dumped symbian?No, I'm not the CEO of either company.
Android is popular in the US, Symbian dominates in every other part of the world. SE and Samsung have alot better chance at winning Nokia on the US markets where it's not that popular. Also, it's easier to make phones for just one platform cos Android and Symbian are so different. The N8 wouldn't in its current form be an android phone ever, it would require drastic changes. So you can have the same kind of hardware and put it on all your stuff.
Also, Samsung now has it's own Bada OS, I don't think it would be smart to have Symbian, Android and Bada phones on a mobile phone company such as Samsung.
Android is extremely good, no one denies that. It still has a way to go before it would ever find it's way to any mobile phone I use though, it lacks the maturity that only comes with time. The issues are being worked out, 2.2. already fixed many of them.
Thanks goodness I've managed to get rid of my X10. It only had a old android version and I got tired of promisses. Sorryericsson lives on past glory. They have one of the worst android phones out there ! My biggest gripe with android is the poor multitasking. Even my old N95 was better.
Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010do u mean that i should buy the phone n use symbion 3 n than decide?No, in many parts of the world you can try the N8 in shops etc.
How can you know it's inferior to all these when you have never in your life used it? On paper is on paper, you can't rank phones by specsheets alone. Not to mention that the order in whic hyou ranked phones probably works for you. But people value different things. That list does not hold true for me, it's an opinion, not a fact, learn the difference.
Wheez, 03 Oct 2010How much experience you have with Symbian^3?do u know why SE and Samsung has dumped symbian?
Wheez, 03 Oct 2010How much experience you have with Symbian^3?do u mean that i should buy the phone n use symbion 3 n than decide?
Wheez, 03 Oct 2010You still arn't backing that up any ways.
Can you explain me how do Android phones compensa... morei know that alot of die hard nokia fanboys are here n i am not here to offend anyone n i just want to let everyone know that as a whole package(includes alot of stuff) htc desire,xperia x10,galaxy S,google nexus one are much better than nokia n8
yes there would be features which would be only in nokia n8 n vice versa but unless u find a mobile with good 0S its not much of a big deal
Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010yes almost all of the stuffs the android mobiles i mentioned can do apart from maybe 1 or 2 n ... moreYou still arn't backing that up any ways.
Can you explain me how do Android phones compensate for the lack of USB OTG for example? It's a feature I very highly value. Theres no app that can make up for that.
Mark, 03 Oct 2010Dont give us numbers, thats bull, give me the actual factual reasons that those devices are su... moreyes almost all of the stuffs the android mobiles i mentioned can do apart from maybe 1 or 2 n the mobiles are just much superior as a whole package....only advantage would be the 12 mp camera of nokia n8 but xperia x10 8.1 mp is also very good
so as a whole package those devices are superior to n8
Wheez, 03 Oct 2010That's a good point, but personally I don't know anyone who carries a spare battery with them.... more2 days of battery life is easily achieved with htc desire with android 2.2 n xperia x10 achieves close to 2 days of battery life n with 2.1 update there is further improvement of 30 % battery n i think that news is pretty old about the battery problems atleast in the case of htc desire n xperia x10
Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010my friend its not only about specs
its about specs,software,graphics,speed,performance,easi... moreThat's a good point, but personally I don't know anyone who carries a spare battery with them. I rather have 2 days of battery life than 2x 1 day battery life batteries, though.
Aww fawk, I lied! It doesn't give you the option of changing a default email client, but I'm sure there are/will come 3rd party email clients that support widgets and the full application.
Currently in the options you can change the following defaults:
Browser, Music player, Video player, Photo viewer.
Found at least one email client from OVI store already: http://store.ovi.com/content/39140?clickSource=search
Wheez, 03 Oct 2010Specs? You think that's what makes a phone?
Why do I need a 1ghz CPU when all it would cont... moremy friend its not only about specs
its about specs,software,graphics,speed,performance,easiness of the device n looks also count alot in todays smartphones. all the devices i mentioned are better than nokia n8 n if u use one after using n8 u will know that definitely
as far as the battery is concerned that problems have been solved by updates from different manufactures n also android 2.2 software
i would rather prefer a device which can use a spare battery rather than one(nokia n8) without it
Read this article by GSMAREANA
Nokia N8 gets lots of stick in early reviews, we wonder why
[deleted post]LOL. Whatever you say I loved using N8.
After using horrible N97 I never expected N8 to hit back. I see BIG improvements in Symbian3 devices.
Nokia N8 vs iPhone 4 - Display Colors and Pinch Zoom - N8FanClub.com
Anonymous, 03 Oct 2010so wht? if I have best, do i need a change?? safari is best but android browser is a bit faste... moreI never said you should change. As I've told you too many times by now, I've SEVERAL times suggested iPhone/Android phones to people asking which phone should they get, since the criteria they gave fit better to some other phone than N8.
People who read these forums actively can prove I've done that many times.