Nuwan, 27 Sep 2010Dear Wheez,
Thank you so much for your kind reply... First I was wondering why you were tal... moreI can see your reasons for preferring the C6-01 over the N8 as you will get a better screen.
However you will lose the following:
A thinner phone
A bigger screen for web browsing etc
The 16gb of internal storage
A better camera (I know the c6-01 camera is still good)
Threaded view sms (going off gsmarena spec sheet)
I looked into this as you almost convinced me
I don't know the real reasons behind the delay plus it doesn't seem to be everywhere, Finnish customers still havnt received any email like that.
But why do people always expect the worst? Why does this delay has to be lying instead of maybe them really finding something that they need/want to fix before releasing the product?
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2010Who made the schedule..? you or Nokia..? Nokia clearly said it will be released third quarter ... morewell, september is the last month of q3, october means q4, so yeah, stop making a fool of yourself. ^_^
sharaku, 27 Sep 2010ive got some dumb questions guys, hope someone will answer them. First, will the n8 run all th... moreYou won't need a plastic protector on your N8 as it has got Gorilla Glass so it will be very hard to scratch anyway.
Research gorilla glass in youtube to see how tough it is
Wheez, 27 Sep 2010Thank you for your kind words, and what you describe there is the way I try to write here: I d... moreDear Wheez,
Thank you so much for your kind reply... First I was wondering why you were talking about a lack of SD slot because C6-01 and C7 both having one.. But later you've corrected that thing..
Actually I'm beginning to like C6-01 over N8 just because it's look.. First the build qualities of N8 and C6-01 are very different from each other but definitely they both have great built qualities... N8 has an aluminum casing while C6-01 has stain less steel finish (not only a frame... the videos show that the whole phone is stainless steel...) Only thing is, that steel has made C6-01 is heavier compared to its size...
One thing more brother... I've got 5530 myself and my sister uses 5800... Both mobiles have same resolution and colors... (Though there is a small color tone difference... 5800 colors are bit bluish while 5530 colors are bit yellowish) That's not the case... The difference between same 640 X 360 resolution on both mobiles is noticeable... In other words, 640 X 360 on 2.9 smaller screen (5530) looks very cool rather than it's on large 3.2 screen.. (5800) Specially my sister always complains the same photo looks very crisper on 5530 screen than her 5800 screen...! (and I have to agree with her... happily for sure...!)
N8 and C6-01 both have the same resolution.. But N8 has it on a bigger screen and C6-01 has it in a smaller screen... So I'm pretty sure what that means for me... C6-01 will definitely look better for me... (One thing more.. I don't need my mobile to have a huge display either... I hate apple phones just because they are big.. I just want a mobile which can only be operated by my thumb... Only that.. Not both hands...)
and what you said about NCB display makes me very happy now... Because I'm from Sri Lanka which is a tropical country located directly under sun... We face huge problems in viewing our touch screen displays at noon... I always had to cover the screen by my palm or go to a shelter in order to see the things..! So Nokia clear black display definitely will bring me a big hope now...!
Note: actually in one blog I saw a comparison of screens of N8 and C6-01 just to illustrate the difference in Nokia clear black display.. and that was very very noticeable... It's not just an amoled screen I'm afraid... It's almost same like so called Samsung Super Amoled and may be even better... (Some people have argued that NCBD is better than Apple's Retina even...)
After all C6-01's length and width dimensions are perfect... Though I hate about the thickness..! Come on Nokia... You've placed just a 1050 mah battery but still couldn't make the phone thinner than that..? (That's just ridiculous...!)
After reading your comments and all, I'm now dreaming about C6-01... However one thing more to come... Music Quality... I have to wait until GSMarena does their Music Quality tests and give us the graphs to compare...
Thank you again my friend... We'll see each other in this forum often... I suppose... Keep in touch brother..
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2010Who made the schedule..? you or Nokia..? Nokia clearly said it will be released third quarter ... moreActually End of September is the limit to meet the 3rd quarter of 2010 schedule
It is truly big thnk for
Just imagin there "mass data storaging" capacity...
It can store in his memory up to 48gb
Itz nt over bt think about itz 'OTG'
then u can find the the pandrives can store more than 48gb
then (48+morethan48 =UNDEFIND)
so u can cary hole pc storage in damn small think in itz weigt is Gram...
So u can easly fit this things in ur pocketz
(N8 mobil compu. + OTG cable + small pandrive)
itz too damn good think cant do any other SHIT componys...
Nokia is best nokia forever... :)
Ankur, 27 Sep 2010Nokia N8 is delayed by 3 weeks. I would not have had any problem had Nokia relieved the truth.... moreWho made the schedule..? you or Nokia..? Nokia clearly said it will be released third quarter 2010, never said by end of September. Stop make a fool of your self ok.
well, to be honest, im a bit worried about nokia new pr strategy. take the htc event. That was aggressuve. might get a few "yeah, show them whos boss, nokia" cheers from morons, but thats not the finnish attitude we expect from nokia. Now they are technically lying to customers. Maybe they hired a steve wannabe to replace annski.
Nokia N8 is delayed by 3 weeks. I would not have had any problem had Nokia relieved the truth. But they said that its on schedule. A company which can lie now can do it again after we buy the phones. If it turns out to be true that the N8 is delayed than I would not buy a Nokia phone for at least 10 years. Nokia lover please reply to me by saying ' go to ish*t or Samsung forum' because ultimately you will end up saying this to every one and that is what I want now.
Hey guys, just a small questions. One of the reasons I want to get the N8 is that I want to read e-books through it. Do u think that a 3.5" screen is sufficient for comfortable reading? I had a N95-8GB which had a 2.8" screen and it was uncomfortable reading ebooks cuz I had to scroll left and right all the time if I wanted the text to be readable.
btw the announced release date in Ukraine is 4th of October by an authorized Nokia dealer!
ive got some dumb questions guys, hope someone will answer them. First, will the n8 run all the apps ive downloaded for my 5800(s^1)? I know it has avkon library , but doesnt the single tap procedure mean app ui needs to be modified? Will all the apps require a qt rewrite? Or will they run from day1?
Second, if the battery is non removable, how will the forced reboot fairy save my hanged phone? Is there some hardcoded procedure for that?
Third, is it true it doesnt have stereo speakers? Might be a deal breaker for me.
Last dumb question, i use a transparent plastic sticker thingy to protect my 5800's display, the sensitivity of the screen takes a hit, fair trade for a unscratched screen. But the n8 has capacitive screen, wont plastic covers block the eletricity from my hands?
These are only nags i have about this handset. Apple is cool, android is hip, but symbian and nokia are reliable, and thats what matters to me.
the photo editing and also the video editor which is being created by a company called film frames productins i think(they did clash of the titans/where the wild things are special effects!!!) is aaaaamazing!!! cannot wait till 22nd october!!! :)
Oh, both the C6-01 and C7 did have a SD-slot, well, the difference gets even smaller, but I still find the N8 worth the money compared to these models.
Nuwan, 27 Sep 2010Dear Wheez, I often read your comments and those are really really interesting to read.. I ... moreAlso, you were wondering whether the N8 will be popular with the same kind of devices for cheaper coming out. At least the moment it is. Demand has exceeded the planned supply by quite abit, so at least Nokia was surprised by the popularity of this thing.
Nuwan, 27 Sep 2010Dear Wheez,
I often read your comments and those are really really interesting to read.. I ... moreThank you for your kind words, and what you describe there is the way I try to write here: I don't mind loving Nokia and the N8 and I even work(ed) there, but I still try to stay as open and unbiased as possibly and openly bring up my possible biasness so people know to evaluate what I say themselves.
You had quite abit of questions there, luckily, I have a boring philosophy lesson at the moment so I guess I'll start breaking it down to parts.
Personally the N8 is abit overkill for me too, I don't need a camera like that, but I absolutely love the looks and the design so much, that I can't really even consider the C6-01 or C7. I would rather stick with my old E65 than buy either of those. The camera is just about the only feature I would make a trade off in the N8, giving stuff like USB OTG isnt a possibility for me, really. I might consider if there was a something very similar in look/shape but just abit less features, but I'm not willing to go for C6/C7 looks :D
The Nokia CBD is pretty much a basic AMOELD screen like in N8, but it has an extra layer in it that makes it abit thicker, but it helps seeing the screen in unideal lighting (direct sunlight for example) alot!
Personally I'm ready to pay the extra for the look and design and materials and the color options as well as the features (like the cheaper models have some mix and match of N8s features, but none seems to has all the same and just trade off in material/design). Also personally I'm trying to be far sighted, stuff like SD-slot for example is gonna help alot in the future, not having one would probably limit the device awfully in the future. I dont think the C6 or C7 has a resistive screen, but thats one thing I wont even consider after tyring the N8s capacitive screen.
As for the same kind of hardware on many models, there's a simple reason like that. Nokia is by far the biggest mobile phone manufacturer in the world, they make and sell huge volumes. They probably save money when they order a huge shipment of the same hardware which they can use on many devices, which they use for 1-2 years in most of the equal kind of devices. Also having lots of different hardware might make different kind of requirements for the machines/people who assemble the phones, which may waste time and money and machinery to be installing 4 different kind of modules when you could be installing just one. Also as you said, software/OS performs differently on different modules. I'ev played a game that ran like a dream on nVidia gfx cards but ran unplayably with ATI cards even if they were specwise the same.
It's not really lazyness, it's just efficient, and those Samsung fanboys can shut up, they've been using the same CPU for a good while now too :D
I often read your comments and those are really really interesting to read.. I learned many things from you as you always line up things with an unbiased mind... (I mean as possible... Because it's obvious that you like N8.. However you have taken care that you don't spoil your posts because you like this mobile...) So for any person who likes or dislike Nokia N8, there are things to grab from Mr. Wheez's comments..
Well... Back to my point... I also really like this mobile.. Not only because of its extraordinary camera.. But also because of the features like 'USB On the Go' and 'Symbian 3' (Though there are so many Symbian haters here, as a Person who's in love with Symbian, my next mobile will always be another Symbian... That's for sure...)
However after the introduction of the next Symbian 3 mobiles from Nokia (C7 and C6-01) I'm again in a dilemma whether to go for this very expensive N8 or just buy a budget mobile like C6-01... (Actually all I want is a mobile with Great Music Quality, Symbian OS, Decent Camera - it doesn't have to be an extraordinary camera, GPS and high speed 3G with video calling, Decent battery, Pretty sexy look.. Plus, that mobile should be Nokia... Ha ha... My personal preference...)
Only two things I hate about C6-01 are, lesser battery capacity, higher thickness... (it's 13.9 thick... damn it.. The current mobile I'm using is 5530 and it's damn sexy... and it's only 12.9 mm... I hate to move from 12.9 to 13.9 which is kind of backward to me...!)
However the features like USB on the Go, Wifi b/g/n, great Nokia clear black display with AMOLED capacitive screen are turning me on...! Actually C7 has all I want but I don't like its oval shape.. (thickness is great though...)
I want to know more about this 'Nokia clear black display' which N8 doesn't have while C7 and C6-01 have... and do you really think N8 will be that popular specially when buyers have very competitive and considerably cheap alternatives like C7 and C6-01...? I don't think people will be pleased to pay more 200 Dollars just to jump from 8 MP camera to 12 MP camera and for HDMI & aluminum casing...! I want your opinion on above...
One thing more... I have seen Nokia produces a set of mobiles which has almost same hardware configuration with slight changes in design and some features.. (Eg: 5800, C6, X6, 5530, 5230, 5233, N97 all has same processor, same screen resolution, same RAM etc...) Now the same theory applies to N8, C7 and C6-01 too... What do you think as the reason...? Is it just because they (Nokia people) are lazy on new things as so many Samsung fan boys are shouting about...? Or is it because of their own comfort on using the same configuration...? (Even same old housing for 5800, 5230 and 5233 proves this matter...) or else is it after concerning so many facts like software compatibility etc...?
I want your opinion on that too.. (I'm asking you because you're a Finland person and moreover you've worked in a Nokia factory too..)
Wheez, 27 Sep 2010With those priorities, you might be better off with the iPhone, if you can just live with the ... moreAnd the limitations would be mainly the following:
Main disadvantages of iPhone 4
- Hardware design is prone to reception issues
- MicroSIM card support only
- No Flash support in the web browser
- No true multitasking for all applications
- FaceTime video calls work only over Wi-Fi
- No file transfer over Bluetooth or USB Mass
- No hardware shutter key for the camera
- No FM radio
- No stereo speakers
- No microSD card slot
- No smart dialing
- Too dependent on iTunes for loading
- Poor loudspeaker performance