How come the Final version of the phone is slower than the prototype ???????????
If the firmware shown in Nokia World is the market release -- Then I will wait few days for the Next F/W before buying :(:(
rizz, 14 Sep 2010i knw thy r arrivng bt thy cnt beat android,blackberry os nd bada.Haha letz see ! Hope they ll announce Meego phone ! It will be answer for all nokia haterz !
AMANITA, 14 Sep 2010Itz just symbian^3 ! Still symbian^4 and MEEGO r coming next ! Itz just a start :pi knw thy r arrivng bt thy cnt beat android,blackberry os nd bada.
[deleted post]Itz just symbian^3 ! Still symbian^4 and MEEGO r coming next ! Itz just a start :p
doesnt matr dude.i m high rght nw.nd wtf people here r actng as counsellor nd lawyrs 4 nokia.i too nokia fan 4m past 5yrs usd all n97,n73,e51,7610supernova....bt nokia sucks.i m nt favorng any1 bt its my opinions
sorry this phone is a failure ... i bet the profit cant even compete with iphone 4 ... and think about it iphone 4 white will be out ... and what if i said the iphone 4 white have no more antenna issue .. now whos gonna buy n8 or iphone 4 .. this phone is such failure. I LUV nokia but hate symbian ... sorry you failed again.
I think people are forgetting that these things are pretty much computers nowaday. I have an expensive gaming laptop myself, that has quite abit of power in it. Genuinly trying to multitask 15 different programs on it would certainly make it slow down. Why would a phone be any different?
Also, do you really have a need to do multitask 15 programs at the same time? Also, computers are usually rebooted daily, but mobile phones arn't for a reason. Most problems that occur in Windows can be fixed with a reboot. Having a freshly booted phone (I think Nokia suggested like once per two weeks at least) will keep the thing running fluid.
Also, don't forget that in N8 it's REAL multitasking, not freezing the applications and telling you they are open. Depending on the application though there might not be much if any action going on, but it still eats RAM.
Another games performance to look at:
1 word 2 discribe n8 » perfect.
Why have 1Ghz processor like u wanna install windows 7 or vista on n8?Maybe if n8 had 1Ghz cpu some of u pple wld try porting vista.Anyway did any1 manage 2 put vista on their iphone4?if so,i'll buy iphone4 instead of n8 :p
Nokia is back...its so sad tat the company tat is no 1 and they fail sometimes...and ppl put them dwn so badly...Even sachin tendulkar..no 1 bastman fails at times...class is permanent...form is temporarily...Nokia fones have best features...even X2 has 5 mega camera USB on-the-go...iam just too xcited to Get N8...counting my days....Nokia still no ONE...and symbian is still more stable and has more features than any other OS...I dnt care fr the fancy stuff..I care wat I use more features in a fone...
AMANITA, 14 Sep 2010 It should be overclocked to 720 or 750mhz via firmware update if it is required !Thgat should still be a choise, not a "mandatory" thing if u ever want to have a firmware update. It's underclocked for a reason: battery life.
grend, 14 Sep 2010now what to get the E7 or the N8 hehe:P??Well, it depends what you prefer. I for one do NOT want a physical qwerty in my phone, the N8 has some features more (for the sake of being N-seris), I think the E7 has a better display (CBD). The E7 is still relatively expensive (only some dozen euros cheaper), not to mention that it takes ever longer to come out. By the time E7 is out u'll be thinking whether u should wait for N9, etc :D
Wheez, 14 Sep 2010Weird, been looking for some Nokia World 2010 videos of the N8 and they are all considerably s... more It should be overclocked to 720 or 750mhz via firmware update if it is required !
Weird, been looking for some Nokia World 2010 videos of the N8 and they are all considerably slower than the ones I've personally used.
Wonder what's up with that.
husi, 14 Sep 2010I just wanted to see if it opens the 'chat' feature on facebook (the PC version).. umm, I thin... moreSome comforting words from my-symbian forum:
Well, what I can say for now is that overall quality, look&feel, build precision, materials, etc. are simply OUTSTANDING and in this regard the N8 is surely the best Nokia smartphone ever made. The all plastic N900 does not even come close in terms of build quality. It was cold outside when the courier delivered the package and when I was taking the N8 from the box when I touched it for the first time that cold metal casing was really a nice feeling. The screen is also just.... lovely and works just like what you'd expect from a capacitive multitouch display.
I must say I am also extremely (positively) surprised when it comes to performance. The device boots in less than 30 seconds (including the Nokia Hands animation) and everything works exceptionally fast. I am not exaggerating here, it is really a ROCKET.
For several days I've been also testing the Vivaz and Vivaz pro, which both have the fastest processor ever used in a Symbian phone (Cortex-A8 720 MHz), i.e. faster and more advanced than N8's ARM1176 @ 680 MHz, but compared to the N8 they feel like snails.
I've also ran some benchmarks (e.g. GLBenchmark 1.1) and while Vivaz's get results considerably better (often even twice) than e.g. the Samsung Omnia i8910 HD, the N8 in turn outperforms the Vivaz/Vivaz Pro twins in graphic performance almost TWICE. It looks that even though its processor is slower, the GPU (hardware accelerator) of the N8 is considerably faster. Vivaz has PowerVR SGX530 GPU while the N8 has Broadcom VideoCore III.
If it's that much faster than SGX530, then I wouldn't be surprised if it was offering performance similar to the SGX535 like in the iPhone 4.
Oh, and they FINALLY changed the landscape mode to ALWAYS show the virtual buttons at the BOTTOM of the screen and not on the right side (on S60 5th Edition phones it works this way only on the home screen while on all other screens the buttons are on the right, eating some 20% of screen area) so now the landscape mode offers considerably more usable screen area, i.e. full width, with only a small button bar at the bottom. Again, just as it should have been from the beginning.
The camera (both video and stills) are indeed of exceptional quality and there are also some really nice small things about it like e.g. tiny internal "cover" over the lens that opens and closes automatically as you launch or close the camera app.
Would I switch from the N900 to the N8? Most probably no. I still prefer Maemo's UI, its higher resolution screen and its openness. So as much as I am really excited about the N8, my upgrade path from the N900 will be the N9.
I'd say eye candy is very well balanced against performance and usability. Transitions and effects are very subtle, yet still noticeable. And they're REALLY fast, well, at least on a "fresh" device that's not stuffed too much. I got the device three days later than promised and had to send it back today, so I only had three days to play with it, way too little to draw any final conclusions on how it will behave with lots of software installed, or how battery will perform in normal daily use, etc. I didn't have enough time to even just test how the Power Saving Mode improves battery life. But such a 'fresh' device performed EXCEPTIONALLY well. I'm still wondering how the N8 with a 680 MHz ARM11 can be that much faster than e.g. Vivaz with 720 MHz OMAP3...
I was promised that I will get another, almost final unit in a week or so, and for longer testing, so based on it I will be able to talk about all the details.
Back to eye candy, the UI looks much more elegant. All the changes are actually quite small and subtle, but maybe that's why I like them. Users don't have to learn the UI from the scratch, it's just that certain annoying things have been fixed and the UI got a face lifting. Transitions, fades etc. were 100% smooth and - as I wrote - very subtle, which means short/quick. This way, while making the UI look nicer, they do not slow it down unnecessarily.
Kinetic scrolling is supported everywhere, in all applications, system screens, image viewer, web browser, etc. And it is 100% smooth, too. Scrolling between pictures in the gallery is simply superb, just what you'd expect. Definitely not worse than on the iPhone.
Kinetic scrolling in the web browser is also nice, however some 'heavy' pages with large flash content tend to lag a bit, i.e. they start scrolling with some slight delay, but the actual scrolling is smooth, too. Lightweight pages scroll instantly. So I guess it's flash that affects the performance.
Pinch-to-zoom also works really nicely, both for images and web pages. There's really nothing to complain about in this regard.
Does the audio player contain the 'cover flow' type display of album covers that was demonstrated in the s^3 preview video?
Yes. Please see the screenshot below. It looks and works really great and smooth, too.
The impression I got regarding the eyecandy is that Nokia finally hired someone with GOOD TASTE to tune it. Subtle and quick transitions, really nice scrolling, and even the vibrator tuned for very nice and gentle feeback when you touch the screen. It is still the S60 platform and it couldn't magically turn into something completely different, so e.g. the built-in applications like Calendar or email client are still the same and may be too simple for more demanding users, but the overall user experience has really improved A LOT.
If Maemo/Meego didn't exist and I had to choose a new smartphone, I'd happily get the N8. I just wish it had a WVGA screen. nHD on 3.5" looks a little bit too pixelized, and the icons could be a bit smaller, too.
husi, 14 Sep 2010I just wanted to see if it opens the 'chat' feature on facebook (the PC version).. umm, I thin... moreYeah I also wanted to know about facebook chat option ! But I think only N900 have it ! I tried to search about it but I didnt found it in any video !